Hitler and Master Therion
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Hey guys, I just want to say that I really take accusations of borg-style thought-control, arrogance, ignorance seriously.
Really.
It was wrong of me to call Hitler a sh**tstain. I was impinging on your snowflake-y wills, which are so easily susceptible to my taunts.
I really respect the opinions of people who think Hitler escaped death and colluded with extra-terrestrials to form a moonbase.
I really respect the opinions of people who get offended at being called out for their racism, but can't seem to get through a discussion without resorting to using racial slurs.
Truly.
I'm not being even a little bit sarcastic.
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When I used the n-word (same word, but instead I only made you think of it and didn't admit to writing it), I was being facetious about how liberals can't tolerate fucking words and think that offensiveness is argument enough to not hear a point.
You were offended the first day you entered an education facility and you were told you don't know squat and you learned to sit quiet and listen. You were offended that day the ball hit you in the face and you learned to use your glove. You were offended when you were told "it's not all about you."
Look who is crying thought control.
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I'm not offended, you doofus.
And none of those things happened to me.
The only point you made by using a racial slur is that you're a person who uses racial slurs.
Yes, I'm looking at who's crying thought control. I'm seeing a stupid-nazi.
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National Socialists weren't racist. When berlin fell there were arabs, moors, jews, christians, africans and germans all fighting together to defend what NatSoc stood for. You've been fed lies. Hitler had high ranking generals that were queer; he didn't care. Everything you rage against didn't happen or is the opposite of what you're told yet you denigrate it with projected conspiracy ad hominem, as if that detracts from the truth. Like i said, you're like an infant. Go find a David Irving book and challenge yourself. I know this will be hard for you; being who you are. See you around SEKHET-MAAT Lodge sometime
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Hitler wasn't racist.
A nazi is saying someone else is ignorant.
Dude, I'm not afraid of dumb nazis. And I'm not in the OTO so no, you won't see me at Sekhet Mast.
Every nazi is a loser who can't accept that they are a loser, so they make up dumb lies about other races.
But I'm sure that one day all the nazis will win and then you'll have a stable job and your involuntary celibacy streak will be over.
Now I'm going to watch a video of your leader, Christopher Cantwell, blubbering about being arrested, and laugh my ass off.
And I'll also laugh about how David Irving has to sell nazi memorabilia to make a living because he bankrupted himself losing a libel case against people who said he was a shitty idiot historian.
In case it's not clear:
Nazi = loser that people laugh at because they're so dumb.
There are zero nazis who aren't losers. Why is that, Mercurius?
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@Avshalom Binyamin said
"Hitler wasn't racist.
A nazi is saying someone else is ignorant.
Dude, I'm not afraid of dumb nazis. And I'm not in the OTO so no, you won't see me at Sekhet Mast.
Every nazi is a loser who can't accept that they are a loser, so they make up dumb lies about other races.
But I'm sure that one day all the nazis will win and then you'll have a stable job and your involuntary celibacy streak will be over.
Now I'm going to watch a video of your leader, Christopher Cantwell, blubbering about being arrested, and laugh my ass off.
And I'll also laugh about how David Irving has to sell nazi memorabilia to make a living because he bankrupted himself losing a libel case against people who said he was a shitty idiot historian.
In case it's not clear:
Nazi = loser that people laugh at because they're so dumb.
There are zero nazis who aren't losers. Why is that, Mercurius?"
And you aren't intolerant.
Yes. I get all this. I also have watched you miss label people and then simply all that ranting and raging up there in this quoted text. Thank you for that. I know of you now all I need.
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@Avshalom Binyamin said
"And I'll also laugh about how David Irving has to sell nazi memorabilia to make a living because he bankrupted himself losing a libel case against people who said he was a shitty idiot historian."
I had no idea this occurred.
Thank you for providing me with probably the most wonderful and well-sourced Wikipedia article I've ever read.
"Evans spent two years examining Irving's work, and presented evidence of Irving's misrepresentations, including evidence that Irving had knowingly used forged documents as source material. Upon mutual agreement, the case was argued as a bench trial before Mr. Justice Charles Gray, who produced a written judgment 349 pages long in favour of the defendants, in which he detailed Irving's systematic distortion of the historical record of the Holocaust and Hitler's role therein.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_v_Penguin_Books_Ltd"
And that was just at the top.
That was beautiful.
Thank you, David Irving, for being so arrogant and stupid as to force the British legal system to fully research and officially discredit your ridiculous fantasy.
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And I quote David Irving himself:
""I made a mistake when I said there were no gas chambers at Auschwitz."
"I said that then based on my knowledge at the time, but by 1991 when I came across the Eichmann papers, I wasn't saying that anymore and I wouldn't say that now."
"The Nazis did murder millions of Jews."
"I'm not a Holocaust denier. Obviously, I've changed my views."
news dot bbc dot co dot uk/2/hi/europe/4733820.stm
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@Takamba said
"And you aren't intolerant.
Yes. I get all this. I also have watched you miss label people and then simply all that ranting and raging up there in this quoted text. Thank you for that. I know of you now all I need."
Nazi sympathizer calls me intolerant.
Are my posts as bad as the holocaust?
Can't wait to see what you call me if I make fun of NAMBLA.
I will stop mocking when you stop using the same arguments as nazis.
I get that you think you're doing it to bug liberals or make a point.
Plenty of actual ww2 nazis put the uniform on to rile up their neighbors.
But eventually dramatic irony collapses and lo and behold: you're a bigot.
"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be."
Regardless of whether you think you are or aren't racist, you're behaving exactly like one.
By acting like a racist, you are asking to be treated like a racist, and are getting offended when you are.
It's karma.
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Oh, I know. It's an implied threat.
Mercurius has previously directed Nazi terminology at me before, calling me a "Portland degenerate" ("degenerate" is a nazi-era code word for attacking Jews)
This week is the 1-year anniversary of a Nazi killing two people on the light rail line in Portland (a mile from my house) by slashing their throats when they stood between him and the muslim women he was lobbing slurs at.
But I just can't muster up any fear over such sad losers. It's not even worth it to punch a nazi, because it's so hard to wash the sh** smell off your knuckles.
I will, however, laugh at them when they get themselves arrested for dumb stuff like incest-based domestic squabbles, or get kicked out of their parents' basement for not paying rent.
And I will mock dumb nazi-sympathizers like Takamba who think the real problem is my intolerance and hyper-sensitivity to hate-speech. F*ck you Takamba! Sorry you're still mad at your mom about the way she potty-trained you.
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@Avshalom Binyamin said
"Oh, I know. It's an implied threat.
Mercurius has previously directed Nazi terminology at me before, calling me a "Portland degenerate" ("degenerate" is a nazi-era code word for attacking Jews)
This week is the 1-year anniversary of a Nazi killing two people on the light rail line in Portland (a mile from my house) by slashing their throats when they stood between him and the muslim women he was lobbing slurs at.
But I just can't muster up any fear over such sad losers. It's not even worth it to punch a nazi, because it's so hard to wash the sh** smell off your knuckles.
I will, however, laugh at them when they get themselves arrested for dumb stuff like incest-based domestic squabbles, or get kicked out of their parents' basement for not paying rent.
And I will mock dumb nazi-sympathizers like Takamba who think the real problem is my intolerance and hyper-sensitivity to hate-speech. F*ck you Takamba! Sorry you're still mad at your mom about the way she potty-trained you.
"I will merely smile at how erroneous your interpretations of things are. Sorry about your loss, by the way.
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@Takamba said
"Sorry about your loss, by the way."
Is the above quote in reference to the following quote? Surely not.
@Av said
"This week is the 1-year anniversary of a Nazi killing two people on the light rail line in Portland (a mile from my house) by slashing their throats when they stood between him and the muslim women he was lobbing slurs at."
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@Takamba said
"Sorry about your loss, by the way."
Spare me. According to your interpretation of Liber Oz, interfering with a racist who is spewing hate-speech is interfering with someone's right to think as they will. So the Nazi was justified in killing them.
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@Avshalom Binyamin said
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@Takamba said
"Sorry about your loss, by the way."Spare me. According to your interpretation of Liber Oz, interfering with a racist who is spewing hate-speech is interfering with someone's right to think as they will."
I can but question the outcome of someone spewing hate-speech. They would be naturally a laughingstock because such is a temporary or permanent affront to AL I:3, I:4, I:22-23, I:29-31, I:41, I:48, I:61, II:3, II:6, etc... It is OK to hate, but turn it into a belief or an outlook and you have missed the thread. Hate is only sufficient as a pathway to love; which is inclusive of all and represents growth through absorptive loss of prejudice.
"Let him come through the first ordeal, & it will be to him as silver."
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If you are living life according to Liber Oz, then these people have an indefeasible right to preach their hatred, so long as they know that their intolerance is evidence of their own impotence. They have the right to think this way, and they have the right to speak this way- by doing so they are not really impacting on anyone or their Will. At least, not in a direct manner, they may inspire others to impede another person's will through their 'inspiring' hate speeches, but then the fault lies with the sheep, not the shepherd (In my opinion).
However, if the same group then begin to beat other's of a different faith/ethnicity/sexuality etc. and actively want to prevent them from utilizing their indefeasible rights to live freely and as they will, then they deserve to be killed (according to Liber Oz). Similarily, however, according to Liber Oz if you start telling people they are not allowed to say x because it offends you, nor are they allowed to think x, then you deserve to be killed. As the saying goes, "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me."
To deny Hitler killed Jews is ludicrous. To deny that he put homosexuals in concentration camps is ridiculous. To deny that he medically experimented on twins and disabled people against their wills is ridiculous. He did, or rather, he ordered that it happened. If you deny these things you might as well also deny evolution, gravity, and slavery. The concrete evidence is there, you can choose to believe otherwise, but you are no better than a Christian who believes in Creationism and spouts that evolution is just a theory.
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@Avshalom Binyamin said
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@Takamba said
"Sorry about your loss, by the way."Spare me. According to your interpretation of Liber Oz, interfering with a racist who is spewing hate-speech is interfering with someone's right to think as they will. So the Nazi was justified in killing them.
"The Nazi was justified in Nuit's law because the dead man put himself in harm's way. According to man's law? That's a complicated story. I ask myself, if that particular Nazi hadn't been thrawted by interferers all his life (or some developmentally important period of his life), would he maybe not have become a Nazi? Would not his nature have taken him on a different course if it weren't for the interfering laws of man?
The men who died killed themselves. They sacrificed themselves in the eyes of Christ. I'm sorry for your loss of innocence. I'm sorry for their loss of justification, because the eyes of Christ do not work in the new aeon.
We can pick at any single detail you want. The problem is that an entire universe of events lead to that single detail and your arrogance thinks you can fix it all with punishment and restriction.
Yeah, it's like hanging around a bunch of neo-pagans when Jim takes his silence. No one has a clue but how to justify their own desire to be flakes. Next thing you know, Snowball, the entire thing will collapse.
Now tell me more about my eyes
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The Abbey of Thelema was Crowley's own Ultimate Experiment in the practical application of the Law of Thelema. How do the ways that him and his protégés lived there compare to Nazi ideology? You see, this brings up one thing about Crowley the prophet, he would latch himself to pernicious ideals simply to promulgate his own religion.
@Takamba said
"The Nazi was justified in Nuit's law because the dead man put himself in harm's way."
The Nazi was justified for a time, perhaps, but the Nazi ultimately failed. End of story. The echoes of their voice are marginalized and vanishing. Even the bulwark of Hitler's expansionist agenda falls to the wayside. Perhaps the "slave" is not quite as powerless as first assumed, at least in combined fervor. The whole slave/master dichotomy solves no problems in philosophy or sociology other than the mass proliferation of Egoitism. The so-called "masters" betray nothing but their own hollow justifications of the aggrandizement of their own mundane (scale notwithstanding) mediocrity. A slave follows because they believe that they are helpless to do otherwise. To me it seems that talking about potential freedoms and doing one's own will, leaving others to do as they will, is the best recourse to universal emancipation from illusory bonds. That was, after all, Crowley's main intention.
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seekinghga, I was referring to a specific "nazi" and incident. The lack of justification for the continued existence of Nazi Germany proved itself through history, and I agree with anyone else that it was a good thing. The problem that some don't recognize is that the egoistic world we are born into has to go through the same demands made on the individual during the evolutionary period (a twinkle of a dawning of a new age). There will be hell to pay. The Prophet knew it. Blood blood blood is what he saw. You get it, seekinghga. I get that.
My emotions are clear. I'm not attached to these things, I'm simply pointing things out.