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Ialdabaoth- the demiurge

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    veritas_in_nox
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    Does Thelema have any concept of the Gnostic demiurge? I seem to remember reading something somewhere about the demiurge being associated with Chesed and so Adeptus Exemptus, but I'm not sure where this was and haven't read it anywhere else.

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      Does Thelema have any concept of the Gnostic demiurge? I seem to remember reading something somewhere about the demiurge being associated with Chesed and so Adeptus Exemptus, but I'm not sure where this was and haven't read it anywhere else.

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      Jim Eshelman
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      The Chesed attribution is a Qabalistic interpretation in general, not a distinctly Thelemic one.

      Thelema doesn't use this terminology or theory set directly, but Thelemic writers (including Crowley) often draw on the Demiurge idea to represent certain ideas pertaining to the Ruach etc. Demiurge-like figures appear, for instance, in The Vision & the Voice.

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        Does Thelema have any concept of the Gnostic demiurge? I seem to remember reading something somewhere about the demiurge being associated with Chesed and so Adeptus Exemptus, but I'm not sure where this was and haven't read it anywhere else.

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        sethur
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        The demiurge is a gnostic concept only partly accepted in Cabala, it relates (sort of) to Chesed. Ialdabaoth comes from a tradition lost, but glimpseable through Mandaen writngs such as the Ginza R'ba.

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          Does Thelema have any concept of the Gnostic demiurge? I seem to remember reading something somewhere about the demiurge being associated with Chesed and so Adeptus Exemptus, but I'm not sure where this was and haven't read it anywhere else.

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          atlantis
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          The card "The Tower" in the Thoth Tarot is related to breaking away from the demiurgical realms. Note that a classic image of the demiurge is part of the actual Tarot-card.

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