The Gods of Men.
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**50. Curse them! Curse them! Curse them! **
This threefoldcurse is apparently against the "gods of men," i.e., the outer shells of Divinity.
I don't think there is anything too esoteric in this language. Aiwass is merely damning "all gods of men," the relatively outer images of spiritual Truth. Ultimately, the worship of such gods is idolatry. (Remember, Aiwass is viewing all of this from "the holier place" - verse 48 immediately preceding this section. He is dismissive of the outer as he puts all attention on the inner.)
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"Gnarled Oak of God! In thy branches is the lightning nested! Above thee hangs the Eyeless Hawk."
I always saw the symbolism of this verse a being primarily sexual. The 'Gnarled Oak' is quite masculine and the 'Eyeless Hawk' feminine. Thus this verse would be the classic 'Woman on Top' thing.
Maybe there's something I'm missing?
Dan
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@nirbiraja said
"The contextual initiatory, Tantric and Dominus Liminis' implication of devotion to Order is the initiate is the God F.I.A.T. and a Magus with hir Rood creating and planting Seed in Terra how one Will.
The Union and sex act, the drama if you will, of the Genitor-Genitrix is first union of its strata within the microcosm and then the union with the macrocosm."
Well, that cleared *that *up.
Dan
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@nirbiraja said
"Your treatment of YHVH as a Solar Nucleus is true in practice but does nothing to make clear the nature of the planes separately, in the Four QBL Worlds."
"True in practice" is good enough and I had no goal to do the rest. That wasn't even in the original question, eh?
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@nirbiraja said
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@Jim Eshelman said
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@nirbiraja said
"Your treatment of YHVH as a Solar Nucleus is true in practice but does nothing to make clear the nature of the planes separately, in the Four QBL Worlds.""True in practice" is good enough and I had no goal to do the rest. That wasn't even in the original question, eh?"
What is it with you and your attachment to CONTAINMENT? It's restrictive.
Pearls before swine sort of thing, is it? Or something else?
Get a job, Jim."
Got one. (Got several.)
Deal with people at the level at which they live. Teach people at a level consistent with their current consciousness.
Until they've purified the personality level, that's the level where you have to approach them. Then, until they've attained the K&C, any talk of the Abyss beyond basic theoretical grounding is just going to fuck them up.
And Theoricus is the one old grade title that wasn't retained when the A.'.A.'. system was created.
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I started to answer this respectfully and deleted the answer. Then I started to answer it disrespectfully and deleted that, too.
Then I realized there's really no reason to keep getting dragged into the sewage stream of your posts. I really have better things to do than go around flushing behind you. I probably will not do that anymore.
It does seem bizarre to me that you would post on a forum subtitled "A Mystery School of the New Aeon" when your basic view is that Mystery Schools are a worthless idea. This surely suggests that, at least, you aren't here to help things along.
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Hi N, the two skulls laughing guy,
The fact that you are teaching children in a school is scary.
Jim actually is very patient. You are too hard to dialogue with. There is a desperation in your writings, a need to be understood and validated. The whole thing about Thelema is finding your own true will, so each person is unique. No one is put into a box and shunned. You, however, seem to think that the whole thing about Thelema is being "right" about what Thelema means.
You will never get the understanding you want, unless you are willing to admit that you don't have a clue to what anything entails. You are just as clueless as we all are, except some of us aren't afraid about what that means, as you are.
The point of life is just to live it. The how of living is up to, and the responsibility of, each individual. That means you don't necessarily listen to anybody else, unless it suits you. That means we don't necessarily listen to YOU, unless it suits us. Also, we don't have the need to be validated by the attention of others, as you seem to.
Believe what you want about anything. Please do not attempt to force us to believe as you do - as if we can figure out at all, what you mean, by what you say. Your attention getting behaviour is very adolescent in nature. It reminds me of when a boy likes a girl, and goes up and hits her, for her to notice him.
In L.V.X.,
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Hmmm.
It's 5:07 in Denver. We're both up late,or early.
How am I emotionally manipulating you?
This is interesting.
In L.V.X.,
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"The way I approach my students is a far cry different than dealing with dastardly fellows who think they're clever enough to propagate Thelema as Christianity and get away with it indefinitely. "
Dastardly. Thelema as Christianity. Getting away with it.
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Huh? Actually, I am not a Thelemite, but I sure don't get what you are saying.
Want to explain?
In L.V.X.,
chrys333 -
You are afraid of relating to others as a human being? If you can't preach, you can't talk?
Leaving the discussion to kinder others than I.
In L.V.X.,
chrys333