Help! I'm trapped in this body!

jlpugh

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

I wanted to get others' opinions and experiences on leaving their bodies. Specifically, how they did it and what it was like the first time.

While this operation is probably a bit too advanced for me, I am drawn to it intuitively.

Here is what occurs: After the usual protections are in place I attmept to will myself out of my body by first imagining a cloudy haze surrounding the front of my body, and then attempting to will myself into it and have it take my form. At the same time, I am imagining a series of ascending "D" notes rising in octaves higher and higher. (All borrowed from Modern Magick by Donald Michael Kraig.)

Then (sometimes) 3 things happen at once:

I feel as though I am hurtling through space.
I see ( with my eyes closed... ? ) an image which looks like that lame screen saver that gives the illusion of stars whizzing by your head.
I am suddenly terribly panicked. I experience a rush of fear that slams me ( that's the only word for it ) suddenly "awake," and the operation is over.

Perhaps I am simply not ready, but I feel so close.

What's more, the fear is some how invigorating.

Thanks in advance for your input.

Love is the law, love under will.

Metzareph

93!

Even though it may sound very cool to leave your body, I wouldn't recommend doing it unless you know exactly what you are doing.

You don't give any background on your practices, but in general, I would say, don't do it (for now).

I've known people that had gone coo-coo with this kind of thing, if you know what I mean.
On the other hand, you are very much entitled to do whatever you want.

Froclown

Ok. You are spreading yourself out to thin, this reaches the point of ego dissolution, "veil of Paraketh", which without the right kind of practice will cause extreme panic, rather like being on the verge of death.

Ok. What you need to do is focus on something specific, not whirling though space at warp speed. Formulate an avatar of yourself, it can be anything, so long as its rather solid and specific. Then try to condense your sense of self inside that avatar. To see from its, location in space.

Working with meditations to hold the tattwas in your mind, will help you focus on keeping your self together. The last thing you need is to fly apart all over the astral plane, because you can get the planes all mixed up.

jlpugh

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

Thanks Metzareph, for your genuine concern. It is important to remember that "feeling" ready does not immunize me from danger. If you have time, please elaborate on some of the experiences of the people you know who have gotten caught up in this type of exercise.

Froclown, your analysis makes a lot of sense. Of course I am so busy attempting to leave, I have not formed a solid destination! I can see better now how this needs to work.

I will meditate on the tattwas exhaustively.

In regards to seeing from the avatar's location, do you think it might be practical to test success in this area by attempting to "see" from the avatar's location something that is not visible to me in the present physical location... for instance: a blindly overturned card that faces away from my physical body?

Many thanks.

Love is the law, love under will.

Metzareph

@jlpugh said

"
Thanks Metzareph, for your genuine concern. It is important to remember that "feeling" ready does not immunize me from danger. If you have time, please elaborate on some of the experiences of the people you know who have gotten caught up in this type of exercise. "

93!
Well, back in 2001 encountered one particular person that asked my help because he was "trapped" in different dimensions and "needed to get his body back". This person lost the ability to "reintegrate" and the end result was some type of schizophrenia or psychosis, and this is just one example of the many I've encountered.

What I am saying is that there is people that have the ability to do this almost automatically, but these people have to focus on the physical experience and their bodies. There is risk here, as I see it, of becoming more and more detached from the malkuth level and this will affect your mental health.