I need to learn Qabalah, whats the best book.

Chris Hanlon

Hi Jim,
And when would your book be coming out? Soon, or a long time from now?
In L.V.X.,
chrys333

Jim Eshelman

@Chris Hanlon said

"Hi Jim,
And when would your book be coming out? Soon, or a long time from now?"

It came out years ago. (There's probably a copy or two left sitting around somewhere.)

Chris Hanlon

I would like to suggest Wang's Qabalistic Tarot, as it has many visuals that show patterns of the Tree of Life and the sephorith.
In L.V.X.,
chrys333

Heru

@Chris Hanlon said

"I would like to suggest Wang's Qabalistic Tarot, as it has many visuals that show patterns of the Tree of Life and the sephorith."

I agree. Plus his very clear explanation of how the court cards fit on the Tree is excellent.

Did Wang make a mistake with the court cards though? The Golden Dawn Book T seems to suggest that the King of an ordinary pack is the Prince. And the Knight of an ordinary pack is the King. (Crowley let the name Knight stand)

photogasm

I just finished Gareth Knight's "A Guide to Qalabalistic Symbolism" and found it quite informative.

It's going to require some reflection and many re-reads on my part, but it was definitely time well spent.

I think my next read will be Sefer Yetzirah by Kaplan; just waiting for it to arrive.

Heru

@photogasm said

"I just finished Gareth Knight's "A Guide to Qalabalistic Symbolism" and found it quite informative."

"Quite informative" is how I would sum up Knight's book too. His constant references to Christianity and "Our Lord" got on my nerves after a while. And even though I'm straight I still found his comments on homosexuality a little shocking. Evil, perversion, and black magic?
It's easy to see that Knight graduated from the Dion Fortune school of moral occultism.

photogasm

Well, his personal beliefs aside, I learned much from the text. As with Crowley, I try to disregard the author in favour of what they are presenting.

Kingsolomon

Try Reading Lon Milo Duquette's The Chicken qabala of Rabbi Lamed Ben Clifford.

Good book for understanding Kabbalah and
A garden of pomegranantes by Israel Regardie
and The key to True Kabbalah by Franz Bardon

Those three are good books

and I encourage you to look into rosicrucianism for more knowledge

King Solomon

noctivagus

@BNNHKDSH said

"Hi.
ps. I have learned to read and write in greek, and ought to learn hebrew. Is this something covered in most modern qabalah books or should i pursue that in another resource?"

I can recommend The Chicken qabbalah of Rabbi Lamed Ben Clifford (Lon Milo DuQquette).

It may not go in deph like Mystical qabbalah (wich is realy good too).
But this makes it easy and fun to read but for hardcore qabbalist this book may be seen as blaspheme.

It helps a good deal if you want to learn the hebrew letters.

"Tau looks lika a resh holding a dead dolphin by the tail."

Aum418

Chicken Qabalah by Lon DuQuette
777 by Crowley
Mystical Qabalah by Fortune

This should be a good primer set... you can really start making your 'own' Qabalah once you have assimilated the info in these books (especially Mystical Qabalah re: the Sephiroth and 777 re: everything).

I would keep in mind that Qabalah is a map, and Korzybski reminds us carefully that "the map is not the territory!" (the menu is not the meal!) A trap that many Qabalists fall into.

65 & 210,
IAO131

noctivagus

@aum418 said

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I would keep in mind that Qabalah is a map, "

I have read that you can see the tree of life like a file cabinet. Each sefira is like a drawer you put stuff in that correspond to that energie, the same goes for the paths. In this way it will be easier for newbie to understand it. Well anyway I like it

Techpriest

Basically what the mind seems to do with it anyways. Being a machine for comparison and all.

Aum418

@noctivagus said

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@aum418 said
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I would keep in mind that Qabalah is a map, "

I have read that you can see the tree of life like a file cabinet. Each sefira is like a drawer you put stuff in that correspond to that energie, the same goes for the paths. In this way it will be easier for newbie to understand it. Well anyway I like it "

A file cabinet analogy is a map as well...

noctivagus

"
A file cabinet analogy is a map as well... "

Hmmm now that you mention it Don't take the file cabinet for the road. hehe

Aum418

@noctivagus said

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A file cabinet analogy is a map as well... "

Hmmm now that you mention it Don't take the file cabinet for the road. hehe"

Dont take the method of organization into file cabinets for the information carried on the 'files.' The important point is to realize that Qabalah is simply a method of organizing impressions, and that it has proven quite effective (for myself as well as Crowley and innumerable occultists) but it isnt the final say on anything. Because psychic/spiritual territory is so much more tenuous than physical, anyone could easily draw their own map of the 'same territory' and likely be quite different. On one hand, Qabalah is a tested and effective map; on the other hand, diversity is key for growth and forming one's own unique Qabalah (although it may start with the traditional attributions) has innumerable benefits.

65 & 210,
IAO131

noctivagus

"diversity is key for growth and forming one's own unique Qabalah (although it may start with the traditional attributions) has innumerable benefits."

Just like ever person is a unique star they got their own unique qabbalah. If you cant break free from one own views there is restriction.
But as simple as I am for the moment I'll go with the traditional, until the day wisdom fall upon me like a brick from the sky

Aum418

@noctivagus said

"
"diversity is key for growth and forming one's own unique Qabalah (although it may start with the traditional attributions) has innumerable benefits."

Just like ever person is a unique star they got their own unique qabbalah. If you cant break free from one own views there is restriction.
But as simple as I am for the moment I'll go with the traditional, until the day wisdom fall upon me like a brick from the sky "

Just keep your mind open. Taking the traditional route first is best... that is like the camel taking the load. Then you have to find things you dont think are quite right and argue and think and criticize. Eventually you may even generate/create your own entirely unique Qabalah, picking from various 'systems'/cabinets... oh, and have fun (and remember to relate it to the world)

65 & 210,
IAO131

RosenKreutz

I'd recommend Ladder of Lights by William Gray and his other book Qabalistic Concepts as well. The Mystical Qabalah by Dion Fortune is also a very good book and Gareth Knight's "A Practical Guide to Qabalistic Symbolism". I also have the Zohar, Gates of Light [Sha'are Orab], the Bahir, and Sepher Yetzirah. These are all good books. Qabalah does and has evolved and the Qabalah of the WMT is different from that of the Jewish tradition. You might want to read Gershom Scholem's excellent book "On the Mystical Shape of the Godhead" which shows how Kabbalah has evolved and it's various concepts.

Modest

Wang and Fortune are good bets. I learned a lot from their books.

Frater_N

@BNNHKDSH said

"Hi.
I have crowleys Liber Magick with Book 4 and ABA. Also, a Thoth deck and the book of Thoth. I have also read a few of regardies books about magick. What I must learn now is a systematic study approach to Qabalah so that I can get it all into my head. What is THE book for this study. I ask because I see many on amazon but I know that there is always one that at least bears the distinct title of being THE place to begin.
Thanks in advance.
ps. I have learned to read and write in greek, and ought to learn hebrew. Is this something covered in most modern qabalah books or should i pursue that in another resource?"

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