The Middle Pillar
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"I would be interested to hear about how one can cloak his/her presence on the astral when doing LBRP, MP or other rituals."
Take a look at a book called "INVISIBILTY" by Steve Richards. It shows a good technique for forming the astral cloud that enables one to do this.
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Asraiya said:
"I'm currently confused as to whether Malkuth is the planet Earth or Pluto since the heart or Sun is Tiphareth but that's just my trip at the moment...."
Crowley has a chart in the Eight Lectures on Yoga which puts Pluto in Kether. Pluto is (to put in simplistically) about "being utterly different" and Kether is about uniqueness, hence the correspondence.
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93!
Edward Mason wrote:
"Pluto is (to put in simplistically) about "being utterly different" and Kether is about uniqueness, hence the correspondence."
Well thanks for validating that I'm not way off in left field in my thinking but it seems so backwards still to me. I originally thought for quite some time that Kether was the Sun because it felt like the ultimate attainment (which it likely is actually) and finding it represented by Tiphareth was fine by me making it half the distance and way more possible to reach.. But if Pluto/Kether is about "being utterly different" and unique why is that precisely what we manifest here on this plane? (wait where am i?) I always thought Kether is where we finally become ONE again.
But this thread is about SLEEP so I must be dreaming which brings me to why would you want to cloak your light in the astral or any other place? What have you really got to hide or hide from?!
I say let it shine! Here this sums it up perfectly:
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93,
Asraiya wrote:
"I originally thought for quite some time that Kether was the Sun because it felt like the ultimate attainment (which it likely is actually) and finding it represented by Tiphareth was fine by me making it half the distance and way more possible to reach.. But if Pluto/Kether is about "being utterly different" and unique why is that precisely what we manifest here on this plane? (wait where am i?) I always thought Kether is where we finally become ONE again. "
I seriously doubt whether most of us can grasp just what does lie beyond Tiphereth, and certainly not what's across the Abyss. Yes, we can do so in a speculative or abstract sense, and we can all trot out our Buddhist, Vedantic or Qabalistic vocabulary to prove that. But in terms of just what it would be like to experience consciousness on that level, it's past the point where our reasoning minds can reach, or at least, past what we can express with verbal precision. All we have as a means of communication at that stage is symbols.
My take: We are each unique as we appear in Malkuth. At Kether, we are both unique AND identical with everything else. It is a universalized state in which there also lies a singular perspective, which is then expressed down through the Tree to culminate in a unique personality in Malkuth.
Along that route, there's Tiphereth, which (seen on the way 'down' or 'out' from Kether) would presumably appear to be a transitional state where there is consciousness of both divinity and separate individuality. On the way back 'up' or 'in', Tiphereth would give us the first understanding of what unified consciousness might be like. And since reaching that seems like an attainment from our perspective here in Malkuth (or really, from here in Yesod, the Foundation, since our personalities are creations of mind more than of body), it looks as if it would be a stable, permanent condition.
In Tiphereth, since divinity (the HGA) is included, then we have the semblance of Oneness. It's a Oneness our conscious minds can more or less accept, and (I assume) eventually integrate. What actual Oneness would be like - that is, what the Kether 'experience' would be like ... well, again, words fail.
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Scrivener - thanks for that tip on INVISIBILITY. I checked out Steve's book on Amazon and it appears to be heavy on theory but little on technique and practise. Does the book provide a specific technique for cloaking one's aura with quintessence and, if yes, can you describe it?
@Asraiya said
"But this thread is about SLEEP so I must be dreaming which brings me to why would you want to cloak your light in the astral or any other place? What have you really got to hide or hide from?!
I say let it shine! Here this sums it up perfectly:
"Asraiya - I think the need to be invisible on the astral depends on each person's experience. After a few spectacular and humiliating magickal blowbacks, one becomes less idealistic and more wary of feeding the local egregore.
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h2h wrote:
"Asraiya - I think the need to be invisible on the astral depends on each person's experience. After a few spectacular and humiliating magical blowbacks, one becomes less idealistic and more wary of feeding the local egregore."
I've reconsidered my statements and I do recall a certain time in my life when I can only describe that it was necessary to for me walk into a very dark place (if you could call it that) or situation where it was critical for me to be sort of undercover and conceal my purpose or intention as it felt I may be destroyed. I had to dim down my light to just a spark so that I could hide my true nature and wait til the time was right to fan it back to life. I can hardly describe exactly what the operation was only that it came from a higher calling but it was certainly mandatory to not draw the attention of the egregore like you said so I think I do understand to what you're referring...
Edward Mason wrote:
"Crowley has a chart in the Eight Lectures on Yoga which puts Pluto in Kether."
Do you think in light of more recent astronomical discoveries since AC's time like the declassification of Pluto as a planet to that of a moon more or less that perhaps we should examine the possibility of placing Kether in Nibiru/Planet X/or Eris?? That would be utterly unique since this planet, fact or fiction, supposedly has an elliptical orbit and is traveling in the opposite direction as the rest of us. Hmm... All Hail Discordia!
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Asraiya, 93,
You wrote:
"Do you think in light of more recent astronomical discoveries since AC's time like the declassification of Pluto as a planet to that of a moon more or less that perhaps we should examine the possibility of placing Kether in Nibiru/Planet X/or Eris?? That would be utterly unique since this planet, fact or fiction, supposedly has an elliptical orbit and is traveling in the opposite direction as the rest of us."
You could, sure. Trying to <i>pin down</i> Kether to any one astrological idea strikes me as an ongoing exercise in self-frustration, though.
Back in the day, the Rashith ha-Gilgalim, the First Stirrings or the Nebulae, were attributed to Kether. Then it was Neptune for while for a few people, then Crowley proposed Pluto. But these things function on a consensus that forms around particular ideas. Magick works better, at least within the context of a specific group or community, if we all sing from the same hymn-sheet.
Playing "Choose your favorite Kuyper Belt object" is intriguing, but I think Pluto works fine in Kether, and personally, I don't want to tinker with it. I like the idea that Pluto as a deity is the Underground Guy, hidden in darkness until he snatches Persephone/Malkuth. That marriage between Pluto and her ties in with the "Kether is in Malkuth after a different manner" idea.
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It might be useful to remember that the planetary attributions are just that:
attributions, and not the sephira itself.As I see it, the planets are utilized among the other correspondences to describe the idea that the Sephira represents.
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@Flight93 said
"Any suggestions as to where RMP would fit in Liber V.V.?"
The Ritual of the Middle Pillar didn't uyet exist when Liber V.V. was written, and doesn't exist anywhere in the A.'.A.'. system. Therefore, it doesn't go anywhere in this document.
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Sure. But you were asking about Liber V.V., and that's specifically a map of the A.'.A.'. system. So the Middle Pillar doesn't go on it.
As to where it could go... I can think of several places, depending on the particular system and framework.
As one suggestion, you might consider it the lower-octave expression of Work to be done on the Path of Samekh.
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AHA!! GOT YOU THERE,"JIM"!
The REAL Jim Eshelman would surely have known that the RMP covers Kether-Gimel-Tiphareth-Samekh-Yesod-Tav-Malkuth, and thus, you are hereby exposed as an IMPOSTER!( dramatic music)
Kidding.
No, that actually seems a fair attribution. Thanx for the suggestion.
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Sorry but I'm a bit lost. What chakras are activated in MP? My routine is:
AHIH - Crown; IHVH ELHM - 3rd eye, throat; IAO - heart, solar plexus; SHADDAI EL CHI - genitals, dantien(hara); ADNI Ha Ahretz - feet & knees.
Is this the Regardie method? Because reading him I got the idea that it is: crown, throat, solar plexus, genitals, feet. It would accord to the colors white, lavender, red, blue, russet Regardie used. And what about 3rd eye and heart chakras? Why are they not targeted? It seems the knees are important too.
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The Middle Pillar isn't really a chakra ritual. There is some overlap, to be sure. But the intent is different, and the focus isn't specifically on the chakras. (One difference rarely mentioned: The chakras, however seen through the front or back of the body, have positioned that overlap with the spine; yet the centers of the Middle Pillar are usually done along the front part of the body.)
Crown, throat, heart, and a consolidation of the two lowest chakras do overlap the areas, but others usually aren't included; and there is at least one vibrated center that isn't usually regarded as a chakra.
Similarly, the symbolism (colors, names, energies) associated with the areas mostly don't overlap those corresponding to the chakras.
The real purpose is the establishing of part of the Tree of Life in the aura, and the habituation of bringing energy through the Four Worlds to impact Assiah. I think it is usually more misleading than helpful to regard it as a chakra exercise.
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But MP is so like chakra exercises. I do understand that the intent is different from your erlier posts.
I saw a chakra clip that said: root chakra - earth (Regardie's russet), genital area - water (Regardie's blue), solar plexus - fire (Regardie's red). The heart was air - Regardie used it for the throat but the color lavender Regardie used matches the chakra. The crown chakra is symbolized by white and Regardie used white for AHIH.
I see a clear corespondence between the colors Regardie used and the chakras.
If you're talking about the feet I read that they are considered a part of the root chakra as the arms are a part of the heart chakra. But I do know other sources that write that feet and arms have minor chakras.Jim, your way would be: Crown, throat, heart, solar plexus and genitals, feet? Do you use the Regardie's colors or do you have your own? In Regardie's text I have he doesn't use the heart region but the solar plexus as color red. If you put the solar plexus with the genitals then it is blue?
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@Modes said
"Jim, your way would be: Crown, throat, heart, solar plexus and genitals, feet? Do you use the Regardie's colors or do you have your own? In Regardie's text I have he doesn't use the heart region but the solar plexus as color red. If you put the solar plexus with the genitals then it is blue?"
We use Sephirothic colors - from a different generation of Regardie publication. Blinding white for Kether, gray-white for Da'ath, yellow for Tiphereth, violet for Yesod, and four colors (or one particular one, depending on formula) for Malkuth.
From your notes, I'm guessing you're reading from The Art of True Healing?
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OMG! I got it! According to Robert Bruce the body has 3 energy containers 3rd eye, heart, solar plexus. In his practice filling the solar plexus container the energy circulates to the other 2 containers too. When he tried filling the 3rd eye or heart containers directly he got major disbalances! That is why Regardie doesn't target them! Because they are filled from the solar plexus! OMG! Jim thanks for the discussion!
I stick to The True Art of Healing. From it the practice looks realy like chakra balancing.
I actually had this one confused with the other thread I posted on (Sleep) last night... Please do forgive my insecurity in assuming I must be off on a tangent as usual.. Hey, I was actually right on target for a change! 