Liber V vel Reguli
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- the creation of the 3 horizontal lines starts by the magician using the 3 horizontal lines starts by the magician using the same hand gesture as touching his forehead, mouth, & larynx
well the forehead is the ajna chakra, and the throat the vishudda chakra, but i dont see the mouth, why the mouth??
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Apologies for temporarily derailing this discussion...
@Jim Eshelman said
"Good for beginners? Honestly, nothing beats the basics. The Lesser Ritual of the Pentagram and the Middle Pillar ritual (in one or another of its basic forms) - to which Thelemites would quickly add Liber Resh and "Will.""
I've seen "Will" described before, but I haven't relocated it. Can anyone point me towards any versions of it?
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@sasha said
"I've seen "Will" described before, but I haven't relocated it. Can anyone point me towards any versions of it?"
Before the main meal of the day at least, and optionally on each occasion of preparing to eat, pause briefly, center yourself, and recite the following lines. (The form given here is for two people.)
A: (with a knife or similar implement, knock three times, then five times, then three times, *** ***** ***, then say:) Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
B: What is thy will?
A: It is my will to eat and drink.
B: To what end?
A: That my body may be fortified thereby.
B: To what end?
A: That I may accomplish the Great Work.
B: Love is the law, love under will.
A: (knock once, *) Fall to.The same ceremony may be easily performed by one person eating alone, by only performing the actions and saying the lines attributed to âAâ above, plus the last line attributed to âB,â and dispensing with the words after the final knock.
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waht do you think about this for the meaning of the liber 5 part where the forehead, mouth and larynx is touched?
the creation of the 3 horizontal lines starts by the magician using the 3 horizontal lines starts by the magician using the same hand gesture as touching his forehead, mouth, & larynx, crying AIWAZ! out of these 3 points 2 of them are activating activating chakras, the forehead is where the AJNA chakra is located, this is the chakra associated with thought, and corresponds with the sephiroth of kether. the larynx is where the chakra VISHUDDA is located, this is the chakra which creates speech as well as your own silence. it is here in the VISHUDDA chakra where the thought created in the AJNA chakra turns to sound and is shared with others, also this chakra corresponds to the abyss on the tree of life, being the bridge between the higher world to the lower. the mouth is the final part of the body that creates speech or silence, the thought is created in AJNA and is turned into voice in the VISHUDDA chakra and then mouth is where the voice is turned into words and made into communication.
do you think i am off on the meaning up there?? i mean i see all 7 chakras are activated in the grand sigil of the heirophant, but to me throwing the mouth in there confuses me.
thanks for the help
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"Good for beginners? Honestly, nothing beats the basics. The Lesser Ritual of the Pentagram and the Middle Pillar ritual (in one or another of its basic forms) - to which Thelemites would quickly add Liber Resh and "Will." Six months of persistent daily performance of the Pentagram Ritual, Middle Pillar, and Resh and you'll be in place to see things with quite different eyes."
Is there a specifically A.'.A.'. "endorsed" Middle Pillar ritual, or one that anyone would perhaps recommend? I have been using the one presented in "The Tree of Life" by Regardie. Secondly, when Jim wrote, "...Liber Resh and "Will." Is there somekind of ritual called "Will?"
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@h3fall3n777 said
"Is there a specifically A.'.A.'. "endorsed" Middle Pillar ritual, or one that anyone would perhaps recommend?"
No. The technique was invented by Israel Regardie after the core A.'.A.'. instructions (and most of the non-core ones) were long written.
I'd recommend using it straight out of Regardie's works, or the minor variations employed by the Aurum Solis that can be found in the Denning & Phillips main series. (I'm presuming from your question that you're not the member of an Order, or enrolled in a training program, that has its own instruction in this. If you are, then I advise whatever your system is instructing.)
"Secondly, when Jim wrote, "...Liber Resh and "Will." Is there somekind of ritual called "Will?""
Yes. Do you know the "before meal" ritual? (I don't remember if there's been a thread on it here.) That's the one called "Will" or (more casually) "doing Will."
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@Jim Eshelman said
". . . (and there is a way in which Reguli's penchant for rather swamp-ugly destablization might occasionally be useful to the Neophyte 1=10)."
@Jim Eshelman said
". . . Two, the progress made combined with the particular work of 2=9 would probably have one more naturally able to handle the particular things Reguli stirs."
I'm interested in your views of the nature of the "particular things Reguli stirs".
Best wishes,
Michael.
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Is there anyone with experience of working with Reguli who can cast light on these intriguing remarks from earlier in this thread:
@Jim Eshelman said
". . . (and there is a way in which Reguli's penchant for rather swamp-ugly destablization might occasionally be useful to the Neophyte 1=10)."
@Jim Eshelman said
". . . Two, the progress made combined with the particular work of 2=9 would probably have one more naturally able to handle the particular things Reguli stirs."
Best wishes,
Michael.
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No, not an official secret. I just personally don't like to talk about Reguli very much, so I'm keeping out of this phase of the dicussion.
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@Jim Eshelman said
"No, not an official secret. I just personally don't like to talk about Reguli very much, so I'm keeping out of this phase of the dicussion."
Naturally I respect your reserve, Jim. What you did say earlier in the thread echoed some experiences I had towards the end of a Working based on Reguli which I undertook many years ago, in the late 1980s.
Before discussing these experiences further, has anyone else on these boards worked with Reguli? If so, I'd be interested to hear.
Best wishes,
Michael.
