Vampirism & Thelema
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This thread has wandered more and more into a general vampirism discussion. Please stay on topic. Please constrain all further discussion on this thread to addressing this individual's specific question and his subsequent elaboration of the point.
Specifically, he says he is something he terms a "psychic vampire," which he here (and in subsequent posts) defines. He wants to know how his specific circumstances / practices / etc. will affect him in the long run in the practice of Thelemic rituals and his stiving for the K&C of his HGA. He asks for thoughts and/or advice on this.
If you aren't answering him on this and immediately related points, don't post here.
If you want to talk about other subjects, start a different thread. - I guess I'm going to have to start imposing more on-topic thread discipline here because this has just been going all over the map.
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@sethur said
"Mr Eshelman makes a very im portant point in asking if Fallen Angel is prepared to be called a leech rather than a vampire.
The image of the Byronic vampire is less than 200 years old and unrelated to any previous use of the term. If the attraction is to this image it is an ego massage.
To speak of "Tibetan psychic vampirism" is to perpetuate the modern urban legend that vampirism is a worldwide legendar phenomenon. It is not. the use of the term "vampirism" for anything other than a blood-sucking reanimated corpse is an attempt to latch on to the Byronic image, usually in attempt to find for that two factual pages in books called things like "The Compleat Encyclopedia of Vampires".
Unless Fallen Angel is a reanimated corpse he is not a vampire, and most of his symptoms sound typical of the usual Goth diet, try seeing a dietician."
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93 Fallen Angle,
From reading your posts, if you are not physically healthy, physical health should be your first concern. Seriously. The reason I am saying this is because I found that if i did the LBRP & the Middle Pillar ritual more than twice a day that not only did I become very charged, I became stressed. There is a *Physical Pressure *involved, not to mention it charged the good, the bad & the ugly in my subconscious mind.
I have also read somewhere in one of Dion Fortune books that God is pressure! My point is this: Your physical vehicle needs to be stronger before you can get the full benefit of these types of practices. This should be your first goal IMHO.Now for the K&C of your HGA, I would recommend spending some quiet time everyday with ATU-14 ART or a Rider/Wait style card 14-Temperance, both cards are pictures of the HGA. Some quiet time every day with these images will take you far IMHO.
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@Ankh said
"93 Cliff Oth,
From reading your posts, if you are not physically healthy, physical health should be your first concern. Seriously. The reason I am saying this, I found that by doing the LBRP & the Middle Pillar ritual more than twice a day not only did I become very charged, I became stressed out, there was a *Physical Pressure *involved, not to mention it charged the good, the bad & the ugly in my subconscious mind. I have also read somewhere in one of Dion Fortune books that God is pressure! My point is this: Your physical vehicle needs to be stronger before you can get the full benefit of these types and other practices. This should be your first goal.
Now for the K&C of your HGA, I would recommend spending some quiet time everyday with ATU-14 ART or a Rider/Wait style card 14-Temperance, both cards are pictures of the HGA. Some quiet time every day with these imagines will take you far IMHO."
Was this post meant for Fallen Angel? -
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"Cliff Oth: Was this post meant for Fallen Angel?"
My mistake. Yes, it was meant Fallen Angel.
"Fallen Angel:I have severe heart problems when I do not exchange energy on a regular basis.
My other symptoms include...
Fainting, Sensitivity to temperature, Sensitivity to Light, Migraines, Weak Immune System, Fatigue, etc.I've been diagnosed with with a sever case of Tachycardia which only goes away when I exchange energy with someone."
Fallen Angel, I would also recommend T.O.T. healing list. I don’t know any one personally with T.O.T but, I will swear by there healing list results
It can be found on T.O.T home page under contact mailto:healing@thelema.org -
@FallenAngel said
"I have severe heart problems when I do not exchange energy on a regular basis.
My other symptoms include...
Fainting, Sensitivity to temperature, Sensitivity to Light, Migraines, Weak Immune System, Fatigue, etc.I've been diagnosed with with a sever case of Tachycardia which only goes away when I exchange energy with someone."
Part of the problem may be you have a weak heart which is causing low blood pressure.
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Ok, to the original poster.
I recomend talking to people who actually know what your talking about and aren't going to consider you to be either psychically ill or sadly deluded b/c of your experiences.
House Kepharu might be a good start. Think they even have some Thelemites around there.
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Dont worry rzk, I was not reffering to you.
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Which only goes to show what a useless comment it was in the first place...
warranted, useles none the less.93 93/93
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@KRVB MMShCh said
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@h2h said
"So what is the benefit you feel you have gained by regular drinking of catamenia?"The experience I get from the ritualistic consumption of the mingled fluids is that of force & vigor...but the effect should reflect the cause - which is the magical charge placed on the Stone before & during the operation. Force & vigor is the sigil I generally carve on my breast prior to, during & after the Bleeding.
"Kudos 616...your posts are by far the most informed in this thread.
R.E.D.