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    Frater SOL
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    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

    0=0, LXV
    1=10, VII
    2=9, CCXX
    3=8, XXVII
    4=7, DCCCXIII
    Dominus Liminis, CCCLXX
    5=6, ______
    6=5, LXVI
    7=4, CLVI

    ----assuming texts are given in the Abyss & beyond----

    Babe of the Abyss, ______
    8=3, ______
    9=2, ______
    10=1, ______

    What are the texts that correspond to the Grades with missing Class A's? - I only assume there is a text for every Grade because there are 13 of both...correct me if I'm wrong.

    616

    Love is the law, love under will.

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      Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

      0=0, LXV
      1=10, VII
      2=9, CCXX
      3=8, XXVII
      4=7, DCCCXIII
      Dominus Liminis, CCCLXX
      5=6, ______
      6=5, LXVI
      7=4, CLVI

      ----assuming texts are given in the Abyss & beyond----

      Babe of the Abyss, ______
      8=3, ______
      9=2, ______
      10=1, ______

      What are the texts that correspond to the Grades with missing Class A's? - I only assume there is a text for every Grade because there are 13 of both...correct me if I'm wrong.

      616

      Love is the law, love under will.

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      Jim Eshelman
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      You seem to mixing a couple of different things. One is grade at which part of a particular text is to be memorized - these exist only from 0=0 through 4=7. The other is that these (like documents in other Classes) often are on the syllabus of individual grades but without a requirement of memorization.

      @KRVB MMShCh said

      "What are the texts that correspond to the Grades with missing Class A's?"

      One of your gaps is 5=6. Remember that the Dominus Liminis syllabus exists for the use of the 5=6, so A'ash fits there.

      You have the memorization list correct for 0=0 through 4=7. Here is the list of which Class A books are on the official syllabus of each grade (extracted from Appendix E of The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'.😞

      ALL GRADES
      220: Liber L. vel Legis (Book L., or The Book of the Law)
      370: Liber A’ash vel Capricorni Pneumatici (The Book of Creation, or The Book of the Goat of the Spirit)

      0=0
      10: Liber Porta Lucis (The Book of the Gate of Light)
      65: Liber Cordis Cincti Serpente (The Book of the Heart Girt with a Serpent)
      90: Liber Tzaddi vel Hamus Hermeticus (Book Tzaddi, or The Book of the Hermetic Fish-Hook)

      1=10
      7: Liber Liberi vel Lapidis Lazuli, Adumbratio Kabbalæ Ægyptiorum (The Book of Wine, or The Book of Lapis Lazuli, Outline of Egyptian Qabalah)

      3=8
      27: Liber Trigrammaton (The Book of Trigrams)
      231: Liber Arcanorum twn Atu tou Tahuti Quas Vidit Asar in Amennti sub figurâ CCXXXI Liber Carcerorum twn Qliphoth Cum Suis Geniis. Adduntur Sigilla et Nomina Eorum. (The Book of the Mysteries of the Atus of Tahuti Whereby Asar Makes His Way Through Ammenti. The Book of the Prisons of the Qlippoth, with Their Own Spirits.)
      400: Liber Tav vel Kabbalæ Trium Literarum (Book Tav, or The Book of the Qabalah of Three Letters)

      4=7
      813: Liber Ararita sub figurâ DLXX

      DomLim
      370: Liber A’ash vel Capricorni Pneumatici (The Book of Creation, or The Book of the Goat of the Spirit)

      6=5
      1: Liber B vel Magi (Book B, or The Book of the Magus)
      66: Liber Stellæ Rubeæ (The Book of the Ruby Star)
      156: Liber Cheth vel Vallum Abiegni (Book Cheth, or The Book of the Wall of Abiegnus)

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      • F Frater SOL

        Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

        0=0, LXV
        1=10, VII
        2=9, CCXX
        3=8, XXVII
        4=7, DCCCXIII
        Dominus Liminis, CCCLXX
        5=6, ______
        6=5, LXVI
        7=4, CLVI

        ----assuming texts are given in the Abyss & beyond----

        Babe of the Abyss, ______
        8=3, ______
        9=2, ______
        10=1, ______

        What are the texts that correspond to the Grades with missing Class A's? - I only assume there is a text for every Grade because there are 13 of both...correct me if I'm wrong.

        616

        Love is the law, love under will.

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        Frater SOL
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        So, just because CLVI describes the task of 7=4 does not necissarily mean it is part of the syllabus of that Grade?...it is more suitable for 6=5 as a preparation for 7=4?

        616

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          Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

          0=0, LXV
          1=10, VII
          2=9, CCXX
          3=8, XXVII
          4=7, DCCCXIII
          Dominus Liminis, CCCLXX
          5=6, ______
          6=5, LXVI
          7=4, CLVI

          ----assuming texts are given in the Abyss & beyond----

          Babe of the Abyss, ______
          8=3, ______
          9=2, ______
          10=1, ______

          What are the texts that correspond to the Grades with missing Class A's? - I only assume there is a text for every Grade because there are 13 of both...correct me if I'm wrong.

          616

          Love is the law, love under will.

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          Jim Eshelman
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          @KRVB MMShCh said

          "So, just because CLVI describes the task of 7=4 does not necissarily mean it is part of the syllabus of that Grade?...it is more suitable for 6=5 as a preparation for 7=4?"

          I personally think of it as very 7=4 relevant. But the official A.'.A.'. syllabus lists it on the 6=5 grade.

          Going from memory, the official Syllabus for 7=4 contains only the instruction to write a thesis arising out of, among other things, one's experience with the previous grades' courses of study. (I might be remembering wrong - someone can look that up.)

          And, of course, the Path of Cheth does open from Gevurah.

          Also, Liber Cheth is quite useful for specific tasks assigned to the 6=5.

          The Probationer, of course, already will have acquired and studied all of these.

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          • F Frater SOL

            Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

            0=0, LXV
            1=10, VII
            2=9, CCXX
            3=8, XXVII
            4=7, DCCCXIII
            Dominus Liminis, CCCLXX
            5=6, ______
            6=5, LXVI
            7=4, CLVI

            ----assuming texts are given in the Abyss & beyond----

            Babe of the Abyss, ______
            8=3, ______
            9=2, ______
            10=1, ______

            What are the texts that correspond to the Grades with missing Class A's? - I only assume there is a text for every Grade because there are 13 of both...correct me if I'm wrong.

            616

            Love is the law, love under will.

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            Escarabajo
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            Hello all (My first real post here!) 😄

            I am curious about the benefits of memorization for the Class A texts. My understanding is that by "absorbing" the words Crowley wrote from a higher state of consciousness, you should somehow become more attuned yourself.

            All this talk of memorization does not mention much of why/how to choose a section. I am told Section 1 of the Book of the Law, for instance, is usually recommended for memorization amongst different groups. But what if you feel like doing Section 2 or 3? Do you do yourself any "harm" by "skipping" to a later section? I am curious specifically how it applies to LVX and VII as well. I assume you should read through the liber and choose whichever section seems to attract you most.

            One more thing: do the verse-numbers themselves count as part of the memorization? Do you have to memorize them or are they there for convenience of organization?

            Many thanks

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            • F Frater SOL

              Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

              0=0, LXV
              1=10, VII
              2=9, CCXX
              3=8, XXVII
              4=7, DCCCXIII
              Dominus Liminis, CCCLXX
              5=6, ______
              6=5, LXVI
              7=4, CLVI

              ----assuming texts are given in the Abyss & beyond----

              Babe of the Abyss, ______
              8=3, ______
              9=2, ______
              10=1, ______

              What are the texts that correspond to the Grades with missing Class A's? - I only assume there is a text for every Grade because there are 13 of both...correct me if I'm wrong.

              616

              Love is the law, love under will.

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              Jim Eshelman
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              @Escarabaj said

              "I am curious about the benefits of memorization for the Class A texts. My understanding is that by "absorbing" the words Crowley wrote from a higher state of consciousness, you should somehow become more attuned yourself. "

              Lot of reasons. Yes, these words bury deep into subconsciousness and arise at very useful times. Memorization itself is also a very deep concentration exercise, and valuable in that sense.

              "All this talk of memorization does not mention much of why/how to choose a section."

              Within A.'.A.'., that is left entirely to the aspirant. It's totally a personal decision. Everybody has a different reason, it seems, and sometimes the reasons at the time don't matter or make sense later. Often one ends up getting led to the particular balance or contact the soul needs.

              "I am told Section 1 of the Book of the Law, for instance, is usually recommended for memorization amongst different groups."

              Yes, that's a requirement in Course 1 of College of Thelema and in a certain degree in Temple of Thelema. OTOH, in the A.'.A.'. 2=9 grade, where a chapter of that book is to be memorized, nobody dictates which one it is.

              "But what if you feel like doing Section 2 or 3? "

              See above. It depends on the curriculum you're following.

              "Do you do yourself any "harm" by "skipping" to a later section?"

              None.

              "I am curious specifically how it applies to LVX and VII as well."

              See above.

              "I assume you should read through the liber and choose whichever section seems to attract you most."

              Yes, that's what most do.

              "One more thing: do the verse-numbers themselves count as part of the memorization? Do you have to memorize them or are they there for convenience of organization?"

              They do not have to be memorized. (Liber Trigrammaton does pose some unique challenges, though.)

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              • F Frater SOL

                Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                0=0, LXV
                1=10, VII
                2=9, CCXX
                3=8, XXVII
                4=7, DCCCXIII
                Dominus Liminis, CCCLXX
                5=6, ______
                6=5, LXVI
                7=4, CLVI

                ----assuming texts are given in the Abyss & beyond----

                Babe of the Abyss, ______
                8=3, ______
                9=2, ______
                10=1, ______

                What are the texts that correspond to the Grades with missing Class A's? - I only assume there is a text for every Grade because there are 13 of both...correct me if I'm wrong.

                616

                Love is the law, love under will.

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                Escarabajo
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                Thank you, Jim. You have a great forum here and I'm looking forward to some great conversations and exchanges.

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