Gematria/Notariqon/Temurah
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I recently read Del Campo's Hermetic Guide to Thelema which included the chapter on NAEQ. I wasn't utterly convinced, but that may be due to the fact i have struggled to get my head around Hebrew, so found the natually native English more pleasing.
However, i have decided to perservere with Hebrew and the Gematria methods of Qabalah.
I am just re-reading 777, but the first chapter always stumps me, not great start i know! One of the problems, is that it already presupposes a knowledge of Hebrew, which in my opinion is a tricky language to get to grips with in the first place.
I wondered, does anybody have an easier way of explaining the three methods, or do you find that one works better, or is more popular, or if not someone on here, is there another written work on the subject that explains it better, or at least, in more layman terms?
This is, as you may have guessed, my first post.
Thanks
Love is the Law, Love under Will
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I recently read Del Campo's Hermetic Guide to Thelema which included the chapter on NAEQ. I wasn't utterly convinced, but that may be due to the fact i have struggled to get my head around Hebrew, so found the natually native English more pleasing.
However, i have decided to perservere with Hebrew and the Gematria methods of Qabalah.
I am just re-reading 777, but the first chapter always stumps me, not great start i know! One of the problems, is that it already presupposes a knowledge of Hebrew, which in my opinion is a tricky language to get to grips with in the first place.
I wondered, does anybody have an easier way of explaining the three methods, or do you find that one works better, or is more popular, or if not someone on here, is there another written work on the subject that explains it better, or at least, in more layman terms?
This is, as you may have guessed, my first post.
Thanks
Love is the Law, Love under Will
@Nudor said
"When doing so (using Hebrew letters as cognates for getting numerical values of English words) is I (listed with Y) = 10?"
I, J, Y, & hard e's are counted as 10.
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I recently read Del Campo's Hermetic Guide to Thelema which included the chapter on NAEQ. I wasn't utterly convinced, but that may be due to the fact i have struggled to get my head around Hebrew, so found the natually native English more pleasing.
However, i have decided to perservere with Hebrew and the Gematria methods of Qabalah.
I am just re-reading 777, but the first chapter always stumps me, not great start i know! One of the problems, is that it already presupposes a knowledge of Hebrew, which in my opinion is a tricky language to get to grips with in the first place.
I wondered, does anybody have an easier way of explaining the three methods, or do you find that one works better, or is more popular, or if not someone on here, is there another written work on the subject that explains it better, or at least, in more layman terms?
This is, as you may have guessed, my first post.
Thanks
Love is the Law, Love under Will
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I recently read Del Campo's Hermetic Guide to Thelema which included the chapter on NAEQ. I wasn't utterly convinced, but that may be due to the fact i have struggled to get my head around Hebrew, so found the natually native English more pleasing.
However, i have decided to perservere with Hebrew and the Gematria methods of Qabalah.
I am just re-reading 777, but the first chapter always stumps me, not great start i know! One of the problems, is that it already presupposes a knowledge of Hebrew, which in my opinion is a tricky language to get to grips with in the first place.
I wondered, does anybody have an easier way of explaining the three methods, or do you find that one works better, or is more popular, or if not someone on here, is there another written work on the subject that explains it better, or at least, in more layman terms?
This is, as you may have guessed, my first post.
Thanks
Love is the Law, Love under Will
@Nudor said
"One more question, what does it mean when a Hebrew letter is written large?"
A large 'aleph is 1000, a large Beth 2000 and so on. These values are used for ordinary counting; I've not seen them referred to widely in Qabalah.
However, looking up "large aleph, 1000" I see there is a reference in "Sepher Sephiroth".
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I recently read Del Campo's Hermetic Guide to Thelema which included the chapter on NAEQ. I wasn't utterly convinced, but that may be due to the fact i have struggled to get my head around Hebrew, so found the natually native English more pleasing.
However, i have decided to perservere with Hebrew and the Gematria methods of Qabalah.
I am just re-reading 777, but the first chapter always stumps me, not great start i know! One of the problems, is that it already presupposes a knowledge of Hebrew, which in my opinion is a tricky language to get to grips with in the first place.
I wondered, does anybody have an easier way of explaining the three methods, or do you find that one works better, or is more popular, or if not someone on here, is there another written work on the subject that explains it better, or at least, in more layman terms?
This is, as you may have guessed, my first post.
Thanks
Love is the Law, Love under Will
Oliver P - I know the value is x 1000 when it is written large, but what does that look like? How do we distinguish when a Hebrew character is written large?
Jim - about the 777 comment. I understand the Sepher Sephiroth is separate from 777, it was just a habit, and a bad one, to use a shortened expression when referring to the work. (Almost as bad as TXT speak.) So instead of writing 777 and Other Qabalistic writings, I wrote 777. Now that I know it is a pet peeve of yours I'll avoiding doing it with all the books.
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I recently read Del Campo's Hermetic Guide to Thelema which included the chapter on NAEQ. I wasn't utterly convinced, but that may be due to the fact i have struggled to get my head around Hebrew, so found the natually native English more pleasing.
However, i have decided to perservere with Hebrew and the Gematria methods of Qabalah.
I am just re-reading 777, but the first chapter always stumps me, not great start i know! One of the problems, is that it already presupposes a knowledge of Hebrew, which in my opinion is a tricky language to get to grips with in the first place.
I wondered, does anybody have an easier way of explaining the three methods, or do you find that one works better, or is more popular, or if not someone on here, is there another written work on the subject that explains it better, or at least, in more layman terms?
This is, as you may have guessed, my first post.
Thanks
Love is the Law, Love under Will
@Nudor said
"Oliver P - I know the value is x 1000 when it is written large, but what does that look like? How do we distinguish when a Hebrew character is written large? "
In a word "differance". You can only see how big it is when you have some "normal-sized" ones to compare it with.
Such is Life
Do we know the characteristics of anything when it's sitting on its own?And yes, the 'a' in "differance" is intentional. See under "Derrida" [makes mental note to look up anything Derrida had to say about Qabalah; there must be something
] Also Foucault, "normalisation" (like "differance" pronounce it as in French).OP
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I recently read Del Campo's Hermetic Guide to Thelema which included the chapter on NAEQ. I wasn't utterly convinced, but that may be due to the fact i have struggled to get my head around Hebrew, so found the natually native English more pleasing.
However, i have decided to perservere with Hebrew and the Gematria methods of Qabalah.
I am just re-reading 777, but the first chapter always stumps me, not great start i know! One of the problems, is that it already presupposes a knowledge of Hebrew, which in my opinion is a tricky language to get to grips with in the first place.
I wondered, does anybody have an easier way of explaining the three methods, or do you find that one works better, or is more popular, or if not someone on here, is there another written work on the subject that explains it better, or at least, in more layman terms?
This is, as you may have guessed, my first post.
Thanks
Love is the Law, Love under Will
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I recently read Del Campo's Hermetic Guide to Thelema which included the chapter on NAEQ. I wasn't utterly convinced, but that may be due to the fact i have struggled to get my head around Hebrew, so found the natually native English more pleasing.
However, i have decided to perservere with Hebrew and the Gematria methods of Qabalah.
I am just re-reading 777, but the first chapter always stumps me, not great start i know! One of the problems, is that it already presupposes a knowledge of Hebrew, which in my opinion is a tricky language to get to grips with in the first place.
I wondered, does anybody have an easier way of explaining the three methods, or do you find that one works better, or is more popular, or if not someone on here, is there another written work on the subject that explains it better, or at least, in more layman terms?
This is, as you may have guessed, my first post.
Thanks
Love is the Law, Love under Will
@Nudor said
"In Gematria, I see there is no English equivalent for F. Is there another letter used for F, or is this ignored? (How do we assign a number value to words with the letter F in their composition?)"
Are you speaking Hebrew? And are you speaking of Hebrew per se, or of using Hebrew letters as a way of representing other words as in English?
In any case, the F sound in Hebrew is the soft Peh (Ph). However, in some contexts, Vav as 6 is used to represent this.
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I recently read Del Campo's Hermetic Guide to Thelema which included the chapter on NAEQ. I wasn't utterly convinced, but that may be due to the fact i have struggled to get my head around Hebrew, so found the natually native English more pleasing.
However, i have decided to perservere with Hebrew and the Gematria methods of Qabalah.
I am just re-reading 777, but the first chapter always stumps me, not great start i know! One of the problems, is that it already presupposes a knowledge of Hebrew, which in my opinion is a tricky language to get to grips with in the first place.
I wondered, does anybody have an easier way of explaining the three methods, or do you find that one works better, or is more popular, or if not someone on here, is there another written work on the subject that explains it better, or at least, in more layman terms?
This is, as you may have guessed, my first post.
Thanks
Love is the Law, Love under Will
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I recently read Del Campo's Hermetic Guide to Thelema which included the chapter on NAEQ. I wasn't utterly convinced, but that may be due to the fact i have struggled to get my head around Hebrew, so found the natually native English more pleasing.
However, i have decided to perservere with Hebrew and the Gematria methods of Qabalah.
I am just re-reading 777, but the first chapter always stumps me, not great start i know! One of the problems, is that it already presupposes a knowledge of Hebrew, which in my opinion is a tricky language to get to grips with in the first place.
I wondered, does anybody have an easier way of explaining the three methods, or do you find that one works better, or is more popular, or if not someone on here, is there another written work on the subject that explains it better, or at least, in more layman terms?
This is, as you may have guessed, my first post.
Thanks
Love is the Law, Love under Will
@Nudor said
"Using Hebrew letters as a way of representing words in English. (I am not YET that proficient in Hebrew.) Would one of those "cases" be an individual's Biblical name by chance?"
Obviously if it's a Hebrew name, spell it in Hebrew.
Either P=80 or V=6 would be the values to use for F. I would lean toward the former except in words that came from clear Latin (and Latin-language) derivation where the F value had already taken root in the "6 slot."