Neurological consequences of various occult practices.
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@RifRaf said
"I've had the chance to read it, and it is one of the most sane, concise and lucid texts I have read in awhile. It is definitely worth waiting for."
93,
Thanks - I cant remember at what stage I showed you the typescript but its pretty much done now. I am just looking for idiotic spelling/grammar errors and then it will be published (probably around 85 pages). Im working on an even bigger project (about 300 pages) and an Anthology for the Journal as well...
IAO131
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Hey Okbish, i just saw this post, and wondered about your knowledge if any, of K. Grants works, mainly Gamaliel, or outside the circles of time, etc, and if you could elaborate on any of them in any way? It seems at least to be partially related to this topic, in a far off sense.
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@Law said
"Hey Okbish, i just saw this post, and wondered about your knowledge if any, of K. Grants works, mainly Gamaliel, or outside the circles of time, etc, and if you could elaborate on any of them in any way? It seems at least to be partially related to this topic, in a far off sense."
I'm not really qualified to comment on those topics. Michael Staley, who posts here under his own name, would be better person to ask.
As for my handle, I chose it because:
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I like Grant's work, though I've only just begun to seriously study it.
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I have this weird affinity with spiders. They love to come out of hiding, stand a couple of feet away, and just stay there, facing in my direction. This has happened in a variety of places, indoors and out. And yes, other people have seen them!
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"But all learning (of facts or acquisition of skills) causes physical changes in the brain. Occult "facts" or skills wouldn't be any different."
I hate to mention this yet again, and im not asumeing that you have any interest in the band, but TOOL (the metal band) who is quite open about their interest and practice of various forms of occultism are known to have made the use of anatomy in quite a few of their videos, especially from lateralus on, and I am curious since I know that they are far more advanced in the realm of esotericism than I may ever be, what exactly the significance of the various layers of occult anatomy they have displayed on their album cover to Lateralus have to offer in terms of symbolism.
"I'm not really qualified to comment on those topics. Michael Staley, who posts here under his own name, would be better person to ask. "
Some how I dont think he would be completely forthcoming. I asked once what was the meaning of the one eyed star with the flaming point at the top and I know I didnt get an "esoteric" answer.
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@Law said
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"But all learning (of facts or acquisition of skills) causes physical changes in the brain. Occult "facts" or skills wouldn't be any different."I hate to mention this yet again, and im not asumeing that you have any interest in the band, but TOOL (the metal band) who is quite open about their interest and practice of various forms of occultism are known to have made the use of anatomy in quite a few of their videos, especially from lateralus on, and I am curious since I know that they are far more advanced in the realm of esotericism than I may ever be, what exactly the significance of the various layers of occult anatomy they have displayed on their album cover to Lateralus have to offer in terms of symbolism.
"I'm not really qualified to comment on those topics. Michael Staley, who posts here under his own name, would be better person to ask. "
Some how I dont think he would be completely forthcoming. I asked once what was the meaning of the one eyed star with the flaming point at the top and I know I didnt get an "esoteric" answer."
Perhaps the answer isnt so esoteric, i.e. it represents God(head)
IAO131
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You do! You're a mashine, a typing mashine! With lots of brain muscle.
Usualy your texts are a good, interesting read. You would make my composition teacher proud and I adore good composition. I see you're serious but the pushing I'm doing is friendly - I'm not nagging.
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@Modes said
"You do! You're a mashine, a typing mashine! With lots of brain muscle.
Usualy your texts are a good, interesting read. You would make my composition teacher proud and I adore good composition. I see you're serious but the pushing I'm doing is friendly - I'm not nagging."Ive found the only way to get anything done in this world is to do it yourself... or nag someone endlessly until they do it.
IAO131
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Yes LSD causes more connection of sensory neurons which enables you to See sounds etc. I am in college now studying psychology and upon completion of the study I would like to do work in exactly that area. Brain scans while in mystical states etc. to find exactly how you brain is functioning in these states. Also, I would then recommend pharmacological research to try to find a more direct way of achieving these states so that they can be introduced to the whole of humanity easily.
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93 Law,
You wrote:
I am curious as to the proven (if any) consequences that a person has experienced in terms of their neural circuitry. Does the western Mystery tradition cause a visible difference? If I got a brain scan, would the doctor be like, "how strange" If I performed Liber samekh repeatedly to obtain the HGA, could you tell? Question
In response to the above, I am aware of none of my own documents filtered through other sources on this question, (with the exception of the two links provided:-)
I do however know from my own personal experiences, that the pituitary gland is affected. There is also the Pineal gland that lies right behind the Ajna Chackra that is affected. It helps produce Serotonin and Melatonin.
This is where the 'Star Fire" comes into play. Kalas, and blood of the moon. This in conjunction with the heavenly droppings.
These secretions have certain effects on the Pineal gland. (I have no written proof, but my own experience to go from.)
I am quite sure that once one comes into Knowledge and Conversation with their H.G.A. that the individual will know. IMO, I wouldn't be too worried about other people knowing, unless you are performing certain workings for documentation purposes that another may look over and learn from.
Just my one and a half cents on the original thread:-)
93 93/93.'.
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@Law said
"I am curious as to the proven (if any) consequences that a person has experienced in terms of their neural circuitry. Does the western Mystery tradition cause a visible difference? If I got a brain scan, would the doctor be like, "how strange" If I performed Liber samekh repeatedly to obtain the HGA, could you tell?
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I know that just recently I've done some enochian work and upon completion I felt a great deal of euphoria and a light-headed state. I don't know if this could be medically or scientifically proven as having occured, e.g. cac scan, mri, etc., however I know that in my own perception it was very real and that's all that matters as far as I'm concerned since my own perception of the world is the one I have to deal with.
I did also notice some very real effects on my lights and air conditioning, but that's another story.
93, 93/93
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bottom line is (as far as my opinion is concerned i suppose)
all reality is produced by our mind. so the concept of mind over matter is nothing but the most important concept in existence, because it IS existence.
so when something produces an effect mental or psychological, it is because we either consciously or subconsciously expected said effect to occur.
so ipso facto all neurological changes possibly caused by spiritual practice only occur through Will, and perhaps not because of specific practices involved, which are only a crutch for Will.
any thoughts?
ps feel free to move this where it should be since its not exactly about the book per say.
