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Understanding The Book of the Law

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    I just finished reading the Book of the Law, and I'm not in the process of understanding it more completely. I've got a lot of questions, but my first concerns passage 47.

    1. This book shall be translated into all tongues: but always with the original in the writing of the Beast; for in the chance shape of the letters and their position to one another: in these are mysteries that no Beast shall divine. Let him not seek to try: but one cometh after him, whence I say not, who shall discover the Key of it all. Then this line drawn is a key: then this circle squared in its failure is a key also. And Abrahadabra. It shall be his child & that strangely. Let him not seek after this; for thereby alone can he fall from it.

    When you look at the hand written section you can see the line, and the imperfect squared circle. That page also has a grid with numbers on the side, and letters at the top. Are there any theories about this entry? It seem like something that would be noticed and discussed already, but I couldn't find anything about it when I searched.

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    Heru-pa-kraath
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    Evidently the grid was not present in 1912 when the Book of the Law was first published commercially, so it must have been added by Aleister Crowley years after the book was received.

    The line appears to intersect the letters STBETISAYFA. There are 334 letters on the grid page, and 84 words (excluding the added graph): 334 + 84 = 418.

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    Avshalom Binyamin
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    @Heru-pa-kraath said

    "The line appears to intersect the letters STBETISAYFA."

    And the words intersected are: shape, to, Beast, try, I, say, of, a. Which unscrambled, reveal:

    I try to say a shape of Beast.

    So, the "circle squared, in it's failure" is a failed attempt to draw the shape of the Beast.

    😀 😆

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    dallas64
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    Ah, that all makes sense. Very cool, you guys know your book.

    This is the best source I've found for serious discussion of tBoTL. I'm reading through the forum now.

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    Avshalom Binyamin
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    (my "analysis" was mostly tongue-in-cheek)

    Seriously, though, if you google "the key of it all" and "thelema" or some other related word combos, you'll find oodles of people with their pet theory for this, as well as the mystery of II:76.

    Although there are a lot of little glimmers many of the theories present, I've yet to read something comprehensive and convincing. Mostly they seem to revert to endless gematria and numerology.

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    Bryan
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    "...for in the chance shape of the letters and their position to one another: in these are mysteries that no Beast shall divine."

    Once, while reading the book, this line came off to me as sounding extremely sarcastic, as if to quip "if by some straaange chaaance these letters, by their shape, and their position to one another (the basic qualities of written words) happen to be saying something... well, it don't exactly require divination, fool."

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    Avshalom Binyamin
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    Love it.

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    dallas64
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    I need to be directed to some sort of a beginers guide. A lot of the material presented here is to indepth for me at this time. I'm grappling with some of the violent passages in chapter three, and I can clearly see from some of your posts that this isn't uncommon and a discussion of this must be available.

    One other question: As anyone linked tBotL to Objectivism?

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    Edward Mason
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    Dallas64, 93,

    Crowley's own commentaries are published. One more recent student has posted his own meditations on the subject at:

    aumha.org/arcane/ccxx.htm

    93 93/93,

    Edward

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    gmugmble
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    @dallas64 said

    "One other question: As anyone linked tBotL to Objectivism?"

    Crowley mentioned somewhere that he'd read The Fountainhead and liked it.

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    Mephisto
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    @AvshalomBinyamin said

    "And the words intersected are: shape, to, Beast, try, I, say, of, a. Which unscrambled, reveal:

    I try to say a shape of Beast."

    It is obviously a secret magical formula:

    Say, to Beast of a Shape: "I try!"

    Much more Thelemic if you ask me. 😀

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    Anonymous
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    I, Beast, try to say a shape!

    I, Beast, say to shape a try!

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    Jim Eshelman
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    The key of the letters passed through is that they enumerate to 418.
    All three symbols referenced in that passage are specific references to 418.

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    Al Ha-Shemat
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    N.O.X.; read: X in a circle, id est the Circle Squared.

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    Al Ha-Shemat
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    😆 X marks the spot is a pretty good way of writing my post off as irrelevant. Which is what I was asking for, in all honesty, diving in with a "cryptic 'is' statement" and trying to sound clever 😆 😉

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    Jim Eshelman
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    [ADMINISTRATOR'S NOTE]

    Please bring this fully back on topic as a serious topic, attempting to meaningfully respond to the original post; or stop posting.

    Spitballs and masturbation generally are not allowed in this classroom while class is in session.

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    Al Ha-Shemat
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    Fair enough. All apologies.

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    Al Ha-Shemat
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    " Evidently the grid was not present in 1912 when the Book of the Law was first published commercially, so it must have been added by Aleister Crowley years after the book was received."

    In the interests of getting back on topic (after having derailed it), if the 1912 copy of the BOTL didn't have the graph, does anyone know if there is anywhere, online or otherwise, where I might find the 1912 printout? At the very least it'd be interesting to know precisely what elements weren't present before 1912.

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    Jim Eshelman
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    It's in The Equinox.

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    Al Ha-Shemat
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    Does it include a printout of the handwritten copy?

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