The Thelemic Mass
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
A Facebook page was recently created to evangelize The Thelemic Mass. If you're on Facebook and interested, you can find the page here:
www.facebook.com/jeshelman#/group.php?gid=251928336688To kick off discussion, I posted our version of The Creed. This has led to a discussion thread on Lashtal:
www.lashtal.com/nuke/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-3946.phtmlWith all praise to Lashtal, I found it strange that, if the OP's questions were sincere, they weren't posted here, on HeruRaHa.net where they would have more direct access to answers. However, all praise goes to Eilthireach for his answer.
In any case, I just wanted to open the door - prime the pump - for any discussion on this subject here.
@AvshalomBinyamin said
"Never knew about them, since I had never heard them named in a Gnostic Mass."
Here's one thread where our lists of saints are mentioned:
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
A Facebook page was recently created to evangelize The Thelemic Mass. If you're on Facebook and interested, you can find the page here:
www.facebook.com/jeshelman#/group.php?gid=251928336688To kick off discussion, I posted our version of The Creed. This has led to a discussion thread on Lashtal:
www.lashtal.com/nuke/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-3946.phtmlWith all praise to Lashtal, I found it strange that, if the OP's questions were sincere, they weren't posted here, on HeruRaHa.net where they would have more direct access to answers. However, all praise goes to Eilthireach for his answer.
In any case, I just wanted to open the door - prime the pump - for any discussion on this subject here.
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
A Facebook page was recently created to evangelize The Thelemic Mass. If you're on Facebook and interested, you can find the page here:
www.facebook.com/jeshelman#/group.php?gid=251928336688To kick off discussion, I posted our version of The Creed. This has led to a discussion thread on Lashtal:
www.lashtal.com/nuke/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-3946.phtmlWith all praise to Lashtal, I found it strange that, if the OP's questions were sincere, they weren't posted here, on HeruRaHa.net where they would have more direct access to answers. However, all praise goes to Eilthireach for his answer.
In any case, I just wanted to open the door - prime the pump - for any discussion on this subject here.
@gmugmble said
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@Jim Eshelman said
"an official O.T.O. position that "the names of female members are never disclosed" "Where does this come from, anyway? I can't even think of a bad reason for it."
It's from the O.T.O. Manifesto in Blue Equinox.
As for why... Think of traditional protectionism of women for the many centuries leading up to and including Edwardian England.
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
A Facebook page was recently created to evangelize The Thelemic Mass. If you're on Facebook and interested, you can find the page here:
www.facebook.com/jeshelman#/group.php?gid=251928336688To kick off discussion, I posted our version of The Creed. This has led to a discussion thread on Lashtal:
www.lashtal.com/nuke/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-3946.phtmlWith all praise to Lashtal, I found it strange that, if the OP's questions were sincere, they weren't posted here, on HeruRaHa.net where they would have more direct access to answers. However, all praise goes to Eilthireach for his answer.
In any case, I just wanted to open the door - prime the pump - for any discussion on this subject here.
It's strange that Abramelin is not listed in the saints given his central importance to the A.A. system and 93 current.
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
A Facebook page was recently created to evangelize The Thelemic Mass. If you're on Facebook and interested, you can find the page here:
www.facebook.com/jeshelman#/group.php?gid=251928336688To kick off discussion, I posted our version of The Creed. This has led to a discussion thread on Lashtal:
www.lashtal.com/nuke/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-3946.phtmlWith all praise to Lashtal, I found it strange that, if the OP's questions were sincere, they weren't posted here, on HeruRaHa.net where they would have more direct access to answers. However, all praise goes to Eilthireach for his answer.
In any case, I just wanted to open the door - prime the pump - for any discussion on this subject here.
@he atlas itch said
"It's strange that Abramelin is not listed in the saints given his central importance to the A.A. system and 93 current."
Interesting point. - However, it's likely he's a fictional character and, though there are some mythic and possibly fictional characters in the list, we've tried to minimize these.
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
A Facebook page was recently created to evangelize The Thelemic Mass. If you're on Facebook and interested, you can find the page here:
www.facebook.com/jeshelman#/group.php?gid=251928336688To kick off discussion, I posted our version of The Creed. This has led to a discussion thread on Lashtal:
www.lashtal.com/nuke/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-3946.phtmlWith all praise to Lashtal, I found it strange that, if the OP's questions were sincere, they weren't posted here, on HeruRaHa.net where they would have more direct access to answers. However, all praise goes to Eilthireach for his answer.
In any case, I just wanted to open the door - prime the pump - for any discussion on this subject here.
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
A Facebook page was recently created to evangelize The Thelemic Mass. If you're on Facebook and interested, you can find the page here:
www.facebook.com/jeshelman#/group.php?gid=251928336688To kick off discussion, I posted our version of The Creed. This has led to a discussion thread on Lashtal:
www.lashtal.com/nuke/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-3946.phtmlWith all praise to Lashtal, I found it strange that, if the OP's questions were sincere, they weren't posted here, on HeruRaHa.net where they would have more direct access to answers. However, all praise goes to Eilthireach for his answer.
In any case, I just wanted to open the door - prime the pump - for any discussion on this subject here.
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
I may find myself in New York around March the 5th. Will the Thelemic Mass be open to the public? Or, should one RSVP?
Also, what is the suggested donation for the event?
I have never been to New York, so... I am trying to gauge the time commiment and prices.Thank you
Love is the law, love under will. -
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
A Facebook page was recently created to evangelize The Thelemic Mass. If you're on Facebook and interested, you can find the page here:
www.facebook.com/jeshelman#/group.php?gid=251928336688To kick off discussion, I posted our version of The Creed. This has led to a discussion thread on Lashtal:
www.lashtal.com/nuke/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-3946.phtmlWith all praise to Lashtal, I found it strange that, if the OP's questions were sincere, they weren't posted here, on HeruRaHa.net where they would have more direct access to answers. However, all praise goes to Eilthireach for his answer.
In any case, I just wanted to open the door - prime the pump - for any discussion on this subject here.
@Ankh said
"I may find myself in New York around March the 5th. Will the Thelemic Mass be open to the public? Or, should one RSVP?"
Yes, open to the public in Brooklyn. It will be on Sunday of that weekend. Other details to follow as they are finalized.
It would be great if you could be there!
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
A Facebook page was recently created to evangelize The Thelemic Mass. If you're on Facebook and interested, you can find the page here:
www.facebook.com/jeshelman#/group.php?gid=251928336688To kick off discussion, I posted our version of The Creed. This has led to a discussion thread on Lashtal:
www.lashtal.com/nuke/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-3946.phtmlWith all praise to Lashtal, I found it strange that, if the OP's questions were sincere, they weren't posted here, on HeruRaHa.net where they would have more direct access to answers. However, all praise goes to Eilthireach for his answer.
In any case, I just wanted to open the door - prime the pump - for any discussion on this subject here.
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law,
"Quote JAE: Yes, open to the public in Brooklyn. It will be on Sunday of that weekend. Other details to follow as they are finalized.
It would be great if you could be there!"
Thanks for the reply Jim. It’s work related so… will see.
Also, I have another question. Is there attendee participation? If so, how do you deal with someone who has never been to a Mass before, are they given a script on what to do and when?Thank you again for your time.
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
A Facebook page was recently created to evangelize The Thelemic Mass. If you're on Facebook and interested, you can find the page here:
www.facebook.com/jeshelman#/group.php?gid=251928336688To kick off discussion, I posted our version of The Creed. This has led to a discussion thread on Lashtal:
www.lashtal.com/nuke/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-3946.phtmlWith all praise to Lashtal, I found it strange that, if the OP's questions were sincere, they weren't posted here, on HeruRaHa.net where they would have more direct access to answers. However, all praise goes to Eilthireach for his answer.
In any case, I just wanted to open the door - prime the pump - for any discussion on this subject here.
@Ankh said
"Also, I have another question. Is there attendee participation? If so, how do you deal with someone who has never been to a Mass before, are they given a script on what to do and when?"
Yes, there is attendee participation and, yes, it's our responsibility to see that you're up to speedf.
This is no big deal, actually. It's the same basic approach we've used with the Mass (in various incarnations) since 1980. There is a certain amount of Deacon orientation, plus Deacon guidance and direction throughout, plus a handout for the few lines that congregation has. (Not a full script: One's eyes should be on the Mass, not in a book
)You can prepare yourself (understanding the basic idea of what congregation does) by studying any copy of Liber XV in print; but I don't think you really need to worry about the issue.
