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    Jim Eshelman
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    @AvshalomBinyamin said

    "Never knew about them, since I had never heard them named in a Gnostic Mass."

    Here's one thread where our lists of saints are mentioned:
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    @Jim Eshelman said

    "an official O.T.O. position that "the names of female members are never disclosed" "

    Where does this come from, anyway? I can't even think of a bad reason for it.

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    Jim Eshelman
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    @gmugmble said

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    @Jim Eshelman said
    "an official O.T.O. position that "the names of female members are never disclosed" "

    Where does this come from, anyway? I can't even think of a bad reason for it."

    It's from the O.T.O. Manifesto in Blue Equinox.

    As for why... Think of traditional protectionism of women for the many centuries leading up to and including Edwardian England.

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    the atlas itch
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    It's strange that Abramelin is not listed in the saints given his central importance to the A.A. system and 93 current.

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    @he atlas itch said

    "It's strange that Abramelin is not listed in the saints given his central importance to the A.A. system and 93 current."

    Interesting point. - However, it's likely he's a fictional character and, though there are some mythic and possibly fictional characters in the list, we've tried to minimize these.

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    LPD Nu
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    93, Jim and All,

    I'm looking forward to this document and am also considering reserving both versions of 776 1/2.

    I've often been puzzled by this (almost legendary) rewrite.

    😈

    93s,

    Br. C.

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    Ankh
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    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

    I may find myself in New York around March the 5th. Will the Thelemic Mass be open to the public? Or, should one RSVP?
    Also, what is the suggested donation for the event?
    I have never been to New York, so... I am trying to gauge the time commiment and prices.

    Thank you
    Love is the law, love under will.

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    @Ankh said

    "I may find myself in New York around March the 5th. Will the Thelemic Mass be open to the public? Or, should one RSVP?"

    Yes, open to the public in Brooklyn. It will be on Sunday of that weekend. Other details to follow as they are finalized.

    It would be great if you could be there!

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    Ankh
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    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law,

    "Quote JAE: Yes, open to the public in Brooklyn. It will be on Sunday of that weekend. Other details to follow as they are finalized.

    It would be great if you could be there!"

    Thanks for the reply Jim. It’s work related so… will see.
    Also, I have another question. Is there attendee participation? If so, how do you deal with someone who has never been to a Mass before, are they given a script on what to do and when?

    Thank you again for your time.

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    @Ankh said

    "Also, I have another question. Is there attendee participation? If so, how do you deal with someone who has never been to a Mass before, are they given a script on what to do and when?"

    Yes, there is attendee participation and, yes, it's our responsibility to see that you're up to speedf.

    This is no big deal, actually. It's the same basic approach we've used with the Mass (in various incarnations) since 1980. There is a certain amount of Deacon orientation, plus Deacon guidance and direction throughout, plus a handout for the few lines that congregation has. (Not a full script: One's eyes should be on the Mass, not in a book 😉 )

    You can prepare yourself (understanding the basic idea of what congregation does) by studying any copy of Liber XV in print; but I don't think you really need to worry about the issue.

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