The Dark Ages of the New Aeon
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law
Labyrinthus:
I hope my comments weren't taken to sound negative toward the idea of capitalism, in the modern, economical sense of the word. To further clarify, I was referring to the idea of using intellectual wherewithal to make capital. I agree that the idea of capitalism in economics is not to be demonized, and I'm sure you'll agree that, in order to be successful monetarily, it takes certain ingenuity in many cases. Whether that denotes a "less-defective" level of consciousness is not for me to judge.
I agree that this current economic system seems to have increased the wealth of the masses exponentially, according to my perspective, and I think that perspective is shared by many people.
Our current system is hardly capitalism (or socialism), in the strictest sense of the word. However, I'm dismayed that my comments contributed to a political, economic, or intellectual argument. I was merely pointing out, in my previous comment, that everything is a matter of perspective, and I would hardly fault someone for living their life the way they choose to live it. Meaning, if one wants to turn a profit, via exploitation (or even with a purely philanthropic impetus, for that matter), it is an expression of that particular person's existence, which is not for me to say if that is "right" or "wrong".
Ethics, in the material sense, are dependent on perspective, something that I try to eradicate when pursuing my Path. In has been my experience that perspectives are swayed by information, and often times this information is presented as "objective truth". "Science" is dangerous in this regard, as it seems to be becoming synonymous with "objectivity".
As far as I'm concerned, using my faculties with the MOTIVE of material success, is not MY True Will. And far be it from me to tell anybody that this is the "right" attitude...
It seems that any intellectual argument falls under the realm of Swords, which, to me, divides force into perspectives (including labeling "forces" as "economic systems"), or a dualism of sorts (or even further divided, the more corrupted it becomes), because it separates from the Whole. The Two of Swords represents "peace". When it comes to intellectualism, the Sphere of the Two of Swords is one that I try to maintain in my Path, which, to me, shows both perspectives. Otherwise, I find that, for me, it can lead to obsession. Having spent a long time studying politcs, ethics, and philosophy, I have learned to try to understand both sides and not to become the slave of opinion to one or the other. I'm just along for the ride.
I just strive to know myself and I find that there is enough Work in that.
Also, my previous comment was intended to be lighthearted. Thus the reference to True Blood. I didn't intend for it to be misconstrued in any other way.
Love is the law, love under will.
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@Labyrinthus said
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For those who can stand back and take an objective look, the economic system of Capitalism with Central Banking led to the greatest expansion of wealth among the masses of humanity compared to ANY other system in history. ."
At further risk of derailing the thread further, I would simply offer that that could be seen as a subjective view possibly not shared by the many millions murdered or disenfranchised of their land or forced into slavery to feed that material expansion in the anglo-saxon west.
Still, as a sometime student of political history I do see a rhythmical nature, a pendulum swing between ideals and realities, and can so see us happily walking ourselves into a new "Dark Age", (whatever shape it may take) as AC seems to warn in The Book of Thoth as well as other places, and wondered if others have thought about this warning and what it might mean to them.
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"Still, as a sometime student of political history I do see a rhythmical nature, a pendulum swing between ideals and realities, and can so see us happily walking ourselves into a new "Dark Age", (whatever shape it may take) as AC seems to warn in The Book of Thoth as well as other places, and wondered if others have thought about this warning and what it might mean to them."
haven't given it much thought, but first thing that comes to mind is that this "Dark Age" could be connected to various kinds of martial unbalanced energy forms (on the social level) - maybe a harsh period in this aeon during which humanity must pass through all the remanent qliphotic structures in that part of colective consciousness which is resonant to the Geburah-idea. (and also to the Path of Peh, on the way up the Tree, climbing to Tipharet - the conscious reaching of which is the next great step)
I don't think we should at all expect something similar to the Dark Ages of the previous aeon.
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"millions murdered or disenfranchised of their land or forced into slavery to feed that material expansion in the Anglo-Saxon west."
I think that had a lot less to do with capitalism than it did with Monarchy and Imperialism. Unless you are referring to the mythological "genocide" of indigenous populations in America (that never happened). I was referring to an economic system that lifted literally BILLIONS into a position of wealth that was unheard of and unimagined a century or so ago. The fact that millions were and always shall be crushed by the steamroller of time and Fate is something that few among us will bother to lift a finger to try and change. Though many will moan and complain about it.
It never ceases to amaze me how a ubiquitous behavior pattern among humans throughout history suddenly became not just objectionable but incomprehensible in recent generations.
I suspect that the urge to grow, conquer and expand will continue in some form or another among humans... regardless of the economic system in place.
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@danica said
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haven't given it much thought, but first thing that comes to mind is that this "Dark Age" could be connected to various kinds of martial unbalanced energy forms (on the social level) - maybe a harsh period in this aeon during which humanity must pass through all the remanent qliphotic structures in that part of colective consciousness which is resonant to the Geburah-idea. (and also to the Path of Peh, on the way up the Tree, climbing to Tipharet - the conscious reaching of which is the next great step)
I don't think we should at all expect something similar to the Dark Ages of the previous aeon."
Though I agree with your last statement, I'm not ashamed to admit you lost me in the middle there.
Geburah-idea, Path of Peh?
I'm not familiar enough with the symbolism and would appreciate elucidation along simpler lines.
I can only apologise for my failure to follow you.
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I use that in the Qabalistic sense - look for 'the Tree of Life' here or google it, for some quick view-info on the subject [this is the shortest and simplest answer I could give in this circumstances.. an attempt to do it in more detail would mean writing a book - a booklet at least].
if you are familiar with the astrological symbolism, the idea of Mars (in its archetypal, symbolic sense) is analogous with the ideas connected to Geburah and Peh.
if you have no other refference for this at hand, here's a link to 'meaning of the planets' short text (abridged from solunars.net) docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B4UQi7q0C1BJYTUwODYzY2EtMzk3Mi00YWJmLTlhYzctOGE3YmYyNWE1ZTU5&hl=en- look for Mars there
Dion Fortune's "The Mystical Qabalah" is a good basic introduction to Qabalah.
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
@danica said
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"haven't given it much thought, but first thing that comes to mind is that this "Dark Age" could be connected to various kinds of martial unbalanced energy forms (on the social level) - maybe a harsh period in this aeon during which humanity must pass through all the remanent qliphotic structures in that part of colective consciousness which is resonant to the Geburah-idea. (and also to the Path of Peh, on the way up the Tree, climbing to Tipharet - the conscious reaching of which is the next great step).I don't think we should at all expect something similar to the Dark Ages of the previous aeon."
"Yes! I wholeheartedly agree. Especially the part about the "Geburah-esque" Form, and it's unbalanced "shadow" side, which "responds" to the Force that's influenced by the New Aeon.
I believe it's also safe to say that any response (influenced by the Geburah Sphere) will always bring the Forces to a stable Form for us, regardless of the "uncomfortable" aspects of it's Martial nature.
I also agree that the Mystical Qabalah is a great intro to the Tree of Life. I believe many Keys are held there.
Love is the law, love under will.
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"Though many will moan and complain about it."
I need to moan......
I read your words, and I understand this point of view of wealth being a tangible, material thing, that has done wonders.....
BUT......
From my expierence and understanding that type of wealth is limited, and while it did lift people up and give them more coins in thier purse it has systematically destroyed another source of wealth, one in which the rewards often go unseen, and was infinite. The connection humanity used to enjoy with its fellow inhabitant is all but gone. That wealth (true gold!) IMO cannot be measured, weighed or compared to the gold we see on tv, in the stores, and around our necks.While I am thankful on one hand for the blessings of this society, when I rush my child to the ER for help, or drive my car, or brush my teeth, and esp when I run hot wwater.....I am sad for the loss of diversifaction, cultural approriation, and the inner wealth that used to overflow from my fellow Brother and Sisters.
Grief is a very real thing, and takes time to work through. So while others go count thier gold, I will moan for my lost Siblings as long as I need too.
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Whether it's an accurate impression or not, I see the "Dark Ages" of Europe as being very similar to our time. Umberto Eco is one author whose frequent portrayal of the Middle Ages I find very fascinating.
There was a power vacuum after the decline of the Roman empire, and eventually the feudalism popular throughout Europe began to coalesce into nation-states. Soon, the two competing forces were King and Church.
It was a two edged sword. On the one hand, there were a lot of benefits. The Crusades had given Europeans access to the mathematical and scientific advances of the Muslim neighbors, and Europe became flooded by so many great new ideas. Literature, algebra, architectural advancements, firearms, navigational instruments, spectacles. On the other hand, one had to be careful to try to fit these new ideas into the framework of Christian dogma. And Kings, while being able to assemble large resources for expansion, exploration, etc., were often fickle.
When the Black Plague came, it thinned the population enough to make feudalism no longer a functioning option (the opposite came true for Russian peasants).
The next step in exploration was trade, and soon Capitalism's forerunner, Mercantilism stepped in to provide regulation that was not coming from the King or Church. Soon you had large companies, like the British East India Trading Co., acting in a rather symbiotic relationship with federal governments, and funding entire wars. You have governments shifting away from absolute monarchism, and the Catholic church losing its monopoly. Throw in an industrial revolution and fast-forward to today.
Today, the two main competing forces are Representative Government and Corporations. It's a two edged sword. On the one hand, we've entered a new technological era. Our World Wars and lesser global skirmishes have brought us trading partners and have flooded our homes with a vast array of new things. Our dinner plates are full of exotic foods. On the other hand, one has to be careful to not piss off our Capitalist overlords too much. If you're not a trust-fund baby, or willing to be impoverished, you need to cut your hair, get a job, and keep your mouth shut to avoid spouting too much hippy-dippy nonsense.
Corporations are now larger than nations, and act independent of governments. But if you look at economic trends of the last few decades in the US, where Corporate power checks have been systematically dismantled by Republican and Democrat leaders alike, you see a very clear trend. A growing gap between the rich and the poor. Some might claim the imaginary forces of Social Darwinism at work, but it's clearly just the elite using existing power and money to seek more power and money.
But as the eruption of the volcano in Iceland demonstrates, the power-infrastructure of huge corporations is on a lot shakier ground than one might imagine. (Similarly, 9/11 seems an apt metaphor for how shaky the power of nations often are, in the face of tiny groups of militants).
So what's next? How the f*** should I know...
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I do not understand how this "growing gap between rich and poor" can be such a fixation for even those who practice consciousness expansion exercises.
In the USA there isn't really such a thing as material poverty so much as there is poverty of consciousness.
If any child goes to bed hungry it is not for lack of money. This society is awash in money on all levels. The root cause is a lack of morals, ethics and a sense of responsibility among parents. The problem is made worse by those who refuse to hold responsible parties responsible.
If the money spent on beer, cigarettes, drugs, grease-burgers, Latte, etc. or any other manner of mood altering substances were simply applied to the health, education and welfare of the family most of these situations of want and deprivation would disappear overnight.
The illusion of needing a certain haircut or special manner of dress to succeed is easy to see through. Modest, respectful dress and common sense hygiene will suffice for those willing to put in an honest day's work. Showing up late and calling in sick once too often on Friday or Monday reveals another problem that does not reside with the Giant ACME Corp.
I suggest a reading of a book titled "The Millionaire Next Door". Hard work, self-discipline and responsible behavior can go a long way... come hell or hard karma, it can be done. For those with anything remotely resembling even an elementary level of Thelemic "Will" it could even be a cakewalk.
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@Takamba said
"If there is to come a future dark age, it may look like Somalia today, but before then there may be those who try to prevent it with severe martial law."
What's Somalia like today, Takamba? I must confess ignorance... (my uneducated impression being that post-civil war Somalia is a lot like many Islamic nations, with the mix of Sharia and civil law, etc)
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@Labyrinthus said
"I do not understand how this "growing gap between rich and poor" can be such a fixation for even those who practice consciousness expansion exercises.
In the USA there isn't really such a thing as material poverty so much as there is poverty of consciousness. "
Plutocracy - that's the danger.
As rulers, the wealthy have never been overly concerned about the personal liberties of the ruled. In fact, many are the worst kind of rulers - the kind who have sold piece after piece of their soul for material gain and the approval of others - nothing lasting or meaningful. As a group, they are generally at least as poor in consciousness as your description of the unwealthy.
Jan, 2010, the US Supreme court ruled that the McCain-Feingold Act of 2002, the US federal law that regulates the financing of political campaigns, was in violation of corporations' and unions' "First Amendment rights."
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@AvshalomBinyamin said
"What's Somalia like today, Takamba? I must confess ignorance... (my uneducated impression being that post-civil war Somalia is a lot like many Islamic nations, with the mix of Sharia and civil law, etc)"
Somalia has lacked an effective government since 1991 (as old as my college bound daughter is). It is currently "run" by criminal gangs, starving for aid, and infecting its neighbors with piracy and kidnapping on land and the sea. In short, it is literal anarchy. So yes, being run almost tribal-like by "warlords" (aka gangsters) and Islamic militants (aka Islamic gangsters), you might think it like some other nations where central governments are not as effective. But Somalia is far worse than Afghanistan has ever been.
Considering the points that Veronica alluded to, that we are heavily dependent on technology and far less dependent on social interaction, should somehow we lose the wealth we've gained (not the coin, but transportation, communication, electricity), the technological world would suddenly find itself incapable of dealing with becoming what used to be called "a third world nation" (now called "developing nations") such as Somalia is. But before that would actually happen, of course, at least here in the United States there would be martial law. Either side of that coin (militant law or anarchy) would appeal to the notion that the next dark age is Geburah in type.
That's what I meant.
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America is not the whole world though.
Blaming native and third world people for their own poverty when their livelihoods and lands and national resources were taken from them at the point of a gun, forcing them into slave labour to supply the demand for cheap goods in the material west, is mistaken in my view.
They do not benefit from western corporations using all their land to export GM Biofuels to feed our addiction to petroleum. Their lives are not enriched working 7 day weeks of 18 hours a day for a dollar a day to produce goods they can barely even dream of being able to afford.
They are by far the majority on this planet, and the benefits of capitalism have not been theirs.
Nor the many millions who died for resisting western imperialism (or for merely being unfortunate enough to have been born above a particular resource) under its many new guises.I also agree with Veronica, that in the process we have massively squandered another kind of wealth. One not measured on the Nasdaq.
But back to topic.
I do see the possibility of a time where the do-gooders in their belief that Religion has caused all wars (rather than imperialism, caused by whatever root) will attempt to ban all Religions and expressions of Spirituality, much as any democracy based on fear moves to ban anything it does not wish to understand or deal with, and a Scientific dictatorship will play a similar (if reversed) role to the one the church once did against certain sciences.
A necessary pendulum swing between the esoteric and exoteric ways of understanding, hopefully one day leading to equilibrium.
At least that is my own interpretation at this time of what might have been alluded to by AC in Thoth. -
Poet>" Is the same going to happen to science, where an "Infallible" science and its "unquestionable" priests play the same role as the Bearded-One and his "infallible" agents? “
Are you referring to the Roman Catholic position of “infallibility” of the Pope?
Do you know what this really means?
Do you understand where it comes from?
Do you understand that it in no way implies the inability to be in error?
Did you know that it is translated from the Latin which originally implied something more like 'indisputable' with a sense of finality. It was written in order to put and end to the endless arguing and infighting in the Vatican over matters of Doctrine. The Pope finally just picked one side and said, “this is it, now stop arguing about it”
It in no way implies 'perfection' or the 'inability to be in error'.
But that doesn't stop the anti-Catholic bigots from promulgating their non-stop distortions ad nauseum. Take the case of Galileo. Anti-Catholic forces use a huge distortion of this event to imply that the Church tried to control 'science' and suppress knowledge – but as usual that is simply the exact opposite of the truth. The story that is falsely repeated is that he was thrown in prison and tortured for saying the earth revolved around the sun. Pure hogwash.
Galileo wanted to teach his theory as fact in the University where he was employed but the staff and faculty refused to let him do that and he was about to be fired over the matter. So he appealed to his old pal, who just happened to now be the Pope (they were drinking buddies way back when). Galileo knew that his theory had popular support in the Vatican and he asked for a Formal Inquisition to review the matter.
The Pope thought it was a waste of time but as a favor to an old friend he acquiesced. Galileo was not so much 'arrested' as he was placed under 'house arrest' as a matter of formality. He stayed at, I believe, the House of Medici, which was at that time the poshest digs in town. The equivalent of a 5-star hotel. The trial was held and expert witnesses testified but in the end the decision went with the testimony of what were considered then, the greatest scientific minds of the day... and Galileo lost. He did not have to stop teaching his theory as so many falsely report. He merely had to go back to teaching his theory as a 'theory' (horrors!).
You see, this whole notion, “"Infallible" science and its "unquestionable" priests” may be an accurate representation of the modern tyranny unfolding before our very eyes and playing out to whatever end is fated, but the reality is that the RC Church does not usually propose a thing as 'unquestionable'. Contrary to the common distortion, the Church fully and openly allows 'questioning' of any doctrine or dogma anyone wants. Catholics do it every day. Especially within the Vatican. They only get worked up when someone goes around teaching theory as truth.
So now you know.
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Poet>”Their lives are not enriched working 7 day weeks of 18 hours a day for a dollar a day to produce goods they can barely even dream of being able to afford.
They are by far the majority on this planet, and the benefits of capitalism have not been theirs. “I think the “ by far the majority on this planet” comment is off the mark, untrue. It is widely believed though, due to a massive programming effort of the youth by the tyrannical Leftist movement in the west.
No, America is not the whole world, but it is a good example of the fruits of capitalism. And this complaint about the stealing of resources at gunpoint is a myth for the most part, I think. Where have capitalists done this? Are you conflating Imperialist Colonialism with capitalism? Scattered incidents aside, it really isn't a significant part of the big picture. But that doesn't stop those who insist on wallowing in the post WWII self loathing that grips European consciousness.
In Asia over the course of a mere couple decades a billion people are already enjoying the fruits of capitalism. Mass starvation that was a perennial tragedy appears to be a thing of the past. Today while most have yet to experience the luxury of a flush toilet they do, in huge numbers, walk around with a hand held device that they rapidly scribble notes on as they chat with friends across the country and across the Oceans.
Africa, admittedly is a horse of a different color. Something is very, very wrong there. The recent description here of Somalia is such a sad case. We can't even hand out food aid to starving families. The warlord simply steals it from the distribution centers. When armed escort carries it directly to the homes the gangs simply follow behind an hour later and steal it at gunpoint. If the householder holds back they start shooting children. This is not a problem with capitalism.
When ancient tribal hatreds boil to the surface and thousands of machete wielding thugs chanting “Hutu” rampage through the streets hacking to pieces 700,000 of the more peaceful neighboring tribesmen … this is neither a problem nor a symptom of capitalism.
This is a state of consciousness.
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@Poe said
"I do see the possibility of a time where the do-gooders in their belief that Religion has caused all wars (rather than imperialism, caused by whatever root) will attempt to ban all Religions and expressions of Spirituality, much as any democracy based on fear moves to ban anything it does not wish to understand or deal with, and a Scientific dictatorship will play a similar (if reversed) role to the one the church once did against certain sciences."
Funny, that was one thing the Jehovah's Witnesses predicted (my childhood religion). They believe that when Revelation talks about the harlot of Babylon riding on the beast, the beast represents the UN, and the harlot is 'false' religion. When the beast throws the rider and destroys her, they say it means the UN will turn on religion.
I sincerely hope that this is not what happens, if only to avoid a lot of smug "I told you so"s...