Lust of Result
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What does it mean when said that one should not have lust of result? Isn't most everything we do based on a result we want? If we want health and do a ritual to help improve health, how do we get away from wanting that result? Or does it mean something other than that?
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Health is a tricky one because of the psychological particulars.
The gist of it is that one has to one something with all one's heart and also be detached from a particular consequence. One piece of this is that one has to be entirely in the present, and (at each step along the way) needs to actively embrace/accept the continuing present.
I'm sure there are dozens of ways to say the same thing, some of which will connect to some people more than others.
A key practical element is to avoid thinking and mental states that admit a shadow element of failure; because, then, that's part of your creation also.
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Good, that matches my interpretation.
I think this is what is meant when it talks about "unassuaged of purpose" and "delivered from the lust of result".
As in - with all the purpose remaining, but none of the lust for specific results. When we confuse the two, we can start to have this superstitious notion that some situation should immediately work out in the way we think is best. And if it doesn't, it can make you miserable, and feel like you're being punished.
But when we let go, have the idea of the 'eventual' purpose you move toward, and let go of the particular form it manifests as, or the exact path it takes, then life suddenly becomes a blessing, as you watch the mysterious nature of it all. Like a Portuguese proverb says - God writes straight with crooked lines...
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I personally think that this is Liber Al's way of describing the highest state of consciousness, corresponding to Nirvana, Moksha and other (descriptions of) ultimate states. It is, after all, a definition of "Pure Will". The annihilation of the ego that drives the will leaves the will itself unassuaged of purpose - so there is still something to be done - but delivered of the actual lust of results from action. This state is then described as "in every way perfect". It seems to correspond to the state of an enlightened being that has taken the boddhisattva vow, responding to questions but not initiating action, in order (in that case) to teach.
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Another way to put it: "Lust of result" is essentially the same as "anxiety about result."
Don't be anxious about the outcome. Make your commitment to the universe concerning it, back it with your desire force, but don't be anxious about the outcome.
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
Can I add my 2 cents?
For the persons with one specific planetary combination, according to Vedic Astrology, only thing they should do to liberate themself is to sincere bow to Lord Shiva. There is no need for various meditations, pujas, rituals, anything other, only they need to do is just one single bow to Lord Shiva. But in this story the key word is sincere. Sincere, in my opinion, excludes someone's wish to get something for his/her's action. is bargaining with our True Will possible? I think it's not. We can only discover our True Will and then follow this. What we wish is not important at all and nobody don't care about this. And if I am not right here, I am sure someone will correct me.Love is the law, love under will.
Bozidar
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@Jim Eshelman said
"Another way to put it: "Lust of result" is essentially the same as "anxiety about result."
Don't be anxious about the outcome. Make your commitment to the universe concerning it, back it with your desire force, but don't be anxious about the outcome."
LOL! That makes perfect sense to people of my sort with anxiety problems!!! I love plain and simple laymen English.
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What is pure intention?
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I'm having a hard time understanding this. Can you please put this in a real world example?
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I will offer you this, do not take it as a literal or moral statement, I am merely drawing a distinction:
Instance one:
You see a woman, she looks interesting, you want to know more, you strike up a conversation.Instance two:
You see a woman, she looks interesting, you want to have sex with her, you strike up a conversation.In the first instance, the intent is 'pure,' the conversation bringing about the desired result to know more.
In the second instance, the intent is not 'pure' as the conversation is merely a means to an end.
If I think of something better, I will let you know
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Thanks, that helps. I thought that's what you meant, but wanted to make sure I wasn't misunderstanding.
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I tend to see that as "The journey is just as, or more important than the destination"
With "Lust of Result" one's focus is only on finishing the course (which, as Frater Aster Lux put it, won't matter in the very end).
Without this, one can fully experience the journey along the way, and probably a more fulfilling experience.
Another way to put it might be the act of sex: don't rush for the end result, take your time and enjoy the moment!
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I have to disagree with your example, Uni_Verse. Striking up a conversation with someone because you want sex with them is not impure, it's just social play. Caring about whether you succeed is impure, that's the lust of result, but unassuaged means never satisfied, always having purpose, not having no purpose.
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And it helped me understand what you were saying. And at it's fundamental core it agrees with what others in this thread have said.
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@Uni_Verse said
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@sethur said
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I have to disagree with your example, Uni_Verse.
"I agree.
I was attempting to convey something, not directly state it."
I understand Uni_Verse's example, if you don't mind me elaborating on what I concluded with:
The first one had an intention of how the conversation was going to end up with creates lust of result. The second one didn't have a desire of an outcome, lust of result,
To me, I find that lust of result is more of an expected outcome of a situation, instead of having trust that the universe will play out and unfold the next step towards what you want.
By declaring that you want to have sex with the woman (I'm just going off of the example, not stating that wanting sex is impure) you have created lust of result because you are concocting the where part of the conversation. Whereas if you followed the second example, and decided a vague request but are not being anxious over the how-factor, you will have an easier time.
I hope my idea was easy to follow
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Have a general purpose, but do not make it an exercise in fulfilling said purpose. The more you think/care about fulfilling said purpose, the more likely you are to suffer from 'lust of result.'
I've decided to care, but not care. Whatever may happen, I just record in my magickal diary and move on.