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    Takamba
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    The Law of Thelema begins with eleven words:

    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

    Because Our Lady of the Stars, Nuit, said also

    Love is the law, love under will.

    that too has been added to the Law of Thelema. So for basic consideration, the Law of Thelema is complete with

    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
    Love is the law, love under will.

    Some add another phrase from Our Lady: Every man and every woman is a star. - so that the Law is almost as often expressed as

    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
    Every man and every woman is a star.
    Love is the law, love under will.

    I mentioned all that above just for the sake of those who are not familiar with what is called The Law of Thelema.

    What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life. I accepted the Law of Thelema in 1996.

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      The Law of Thelema begins with eleven words:

      Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

      Because Our Lady of the Stars, Nuit, said also

      Love is the law, love under will.

      that too has been added to the Law of Thelema. So for basic consideration, the Law of Thelema is complete with

      Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
      Love is the law, love under will.

      Some add another phrase from Our Lady: Every man and every woman is a star. - so that the Law is almost as often expressed as

      Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
      Every man and every woman is a star.
      Love is the law, love under will.

      I mentioned all that above just for the sake of those who are not familiar with what is called The Law of Thelema.

      What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life. I accepted the Law of Thelema in 1996.

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      Avshalom Binyamin
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      I accepted it consciously a few years ago. But there are parts of me that still buck at the simple notion... and my work at this time is to get them to swear allegiance, one at a time...

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        The Law of Thelema begins with eleven words:

        Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

        Because Our Lady of the Stars, Nuit, said also

        Love is the law, love under will.

        that too has been added to the Law of Thelema. So for basic consideration, the Law of Thelema is complete with

        Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
        Love is the law, love under will.

        Some add another phrase from Our Lady: Every man and every woman is a star. - so that the Law is almost as often expressed as

        Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
        Every man and every woman is a star.
        Love is the law, love under will.

        I mentioned all that above just for the sake of those who are not familiar with what is called The Law of Thelema.

        What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life. I accepted the Law of Thelema in 1996.

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        Froclown
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        No!

        The Law begins with.

        1.) HAD! The manifestation of Nuit

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          The Law of Thelema begins with eleven words:

          Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

          Because Our Lady of the Stars, Nuit, said also

          Love is the law, love under will.

          that too has been added to the Law of Thelema. So for basic consideration, the Law of Thelema is complete with

          Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
          Love is the law, love under will.

          Some add another phrase from Our Lady: Every man and every woman is a star. - so that the Law is almost as often expressed as

          Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
          Every man and every woman is a star.
          Love is the law, love under will.

          I mentioned all that above just for the sake of those who are not familiar with what is called The Law of Thelema.

          What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life. I accepted the Law of Thelema in 1996.

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          Takamba
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          Froclown, as I am not prone to assume you are ignorant, my first desire was to just ignore your comments seeming to mistake The Book of the Law for the Law itself (much like only seeing the Master's finger when he tries to point you to the moon). But perhaps you are ignorant of what is meant by "The Law of Thelema." Since you don't seem to understand what "shall be the whole of the Law" means, I offer you this link:

          lib.oto-usa.org/libri/liber0161.html

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            The Law of Thelema begins with eleven words:

            Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

            Because Our Lady of the Stars, Nuit, said also

            Love is the law, love under will.

            that too has been added to the Law of Thelema. So for basic consideration, the Law of Thelema is complete with

            Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
            Love is the law, love under will.

            Some add another phrase from Our Lady: Every man and every woman is a star. - so that the Law is almost as often expressed as

            Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
            Every man and every woman is a star.
            Love is the law, love under will.

            I mentioned all that above just for the sake of those who are not familiar with what is called The Law of Thelema.

            What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life. I accepted the Law of Thelema in 1996.

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            Jim Eshelman
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            @Takamba said

            "What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life."

            Yes. Long ago.

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              The Law of Thelema begins with eleven words:

              Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

              Because Our Lady of the Stars, Nuit, said also

              Love is the law, love under will.

              that too has been added to the Law of Thelema. So for basic consideration, the Law of Thelema is complete with

              Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
              Love is the law, love under will.

              Some add another phrase from Our Lady: Every man and every woman is a star. - so that the Law is almost as often expressed as

              Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
              Every man and every woman is a star.
              Love is the law, love under will.

              I mentioned all that above just for the sake of those who are not familiar with what is called The Law of Thelema.

              What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life. I accepted the Law of Thelema in 1996.

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              There is simply nothing else.

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                The Law of Thelema begins with eleven words:

                Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                Because Our Lady of the Stars, Nuit, said also

                Love is the law, love under will.

                that too has been added to the Law of Thelema. So for basic consideration, the Law of Thelema is complete with

                Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                Love is the law, love under will.

                Some add another phrase from Our Lady: Every man and every woman is a star. - so that the Law is almost as often expressed as

                Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                Every man and every woman is a star.
                Love is the law, love under will.

                I mentioned all that above just for the sake of those who are not familiar with what is called The Law of Thelema.

                What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life. I accepted the Law of Thelema in 1996.

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                FiliusBestia
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                93,

                I would like to say yes. I have on one level, and yet on another.... It is something I have to work out on my own. Intellectually I've given myself over. Spiritually, maybe even a little mentally, I still struggle with some of it. Guess that is part of the walk, no?

                939393

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                • T Takamba

                  The Law of Thelema begins with eleven words:

                  Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                  Because Our Lady of the Stars, Nuit, said also

                  Love is the law, love under will.

                  that too has been added to the Law of Thelema. So for basic consideration, the Law of Thelema is complete with

                  Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                  Love is the law, love under will.

                  Some add another phrase from Our Lady: Every man and every woman is a star. - so that the Law is almost as often expressed as

                  Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                  Every man and every woman is a star.
                  Love is the law, love under will.

                  I mentioned all that above just for the sake of those who are not familiar with what is called The Law of Thelema.

                  What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life. I accepted the Law of Thelema in 1996.

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                  Takamba
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                  @Jim Eshelman said

                  "
                  @Takamba said
                  "What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life."

                  Yes. Long ago."

                  Yes. Of course. And it is greatly appreciated. 😄

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                    The Law of Thelema begins with eleven words:

                    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                    Because Our Lady of the Stars, Nuit, said also

                    Love is the law, love under will.

                    that too has been added to the Law of Thelema. So for basic consideration, the Law of Thelema is complete with

                    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                    Love is the law, love under will.

                    Some add another phrase from Our Lady: Every man and every woman is a star. - so that the Law is almost as often expressed as

                    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                    Every man and every woman is a star.
                    Love is the law, love under will.

                    I mentioned all that above just for the sake of those who are not familiar with what is called The Law of Thelema.

                    What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life. I accepted the Law of Thelema in 1996.

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                    Takamba
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                    @Frater LA said

                    "There is simply nothing else."

                    I love that.

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                      The Law of Thelema begins with eleven words:

                      Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                      Because Our Lady of the Stars, Nuit, said also

                      Love is the law, love under will.

                      that too has been added to the Law of Thelema. So for basic consideration, the Law of Thelema is complete with

                      Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                      Love is the law, love under will.

                      Some add another phrase from Our Lady: Every man and every woman is a star. - so that the Law is almost as often expressed as

                      Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                      Every man and every woman is a star.
                      Love is the law, love under will.

                      I mentioned all that above just for the sake of those who are not familiar with what is called The Law of Thelema.

                      What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life. I accepted the Law of Thelema in 1996.

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                      Takamba
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                      @FiliusBestia said

                      "93,

                      I would like to say yes. I have on one level, and yet on another.... It is something I have to work out on my own. Intellectually I've given myself over. Spiritually, maybe even a little mentally, I still struggle with some of it. Guess that is part of the walk, no?

                      939393"

                      As a colleague of mine often said, "keep doing what you're doing." 😄

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                      • T Takamba

                        The Law of Thelema begins with eleven words:

                        Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                        Because Our Lady of the Stars, Nuit, said also

                        Love is the law, love under will.

                        that too has been added to the Law of Thelema. So for basic consideration, the Law of Thelema is complete with

                        Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                        Love is the law, love under will.

                        Some add another phrase from Our Lady: Every man and every woman is a star. - so that the Law is almost as often expressed as

                        Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                        Every man and every woman is a star.
                        Love is the law, love under will.

                        I mentioned all that above just for the sake of those who are not familiar with what is called The Law of Thelema.

                        What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life. I accepted the Law of Thelema in 1996.

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                        Mike
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                        I don't really remember when I accepted the Law, or if I actually did this consciously. I slowly slipped into it over the past year without realizing it. I guess I took for granted an actual declaration of my acceptance.

                        It feels so familiar to me I never thought to formally declare it - it's like such a "return home" of sorts that it's hard to vocalize.

                        Of course, there are many aspects of my conscious and subconscious that throw a wall up and try to keep the Light out, but they are being dealt with - hardly.

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                          The Law of Thelema begins with eleven words:

                          Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                          Because Our Lady of the Stars, Nuit, said also

                          Love is the law, love under will.

                          that too has been added to the Law of Thelema. So for basic consideration, the Law of Thelema is complete with

                          Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                          Love is the law, love under will.

                          Some add another phrase from Our Lady: Every man and every woman is a star. - so that the Law is almost as often expressed as

                          Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                          Every man and every woman is a star.
                          Love is the law, love under will.

                          I mentioned all that above just for the sake of those who are not familiar with what is called The Law of Thelema.

                          What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life. I accepted the Law of Thelema in 1996.

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                          Danica
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                          I 'accepted' it - recognized it immediately as the Truth would better describe the experience - when I firs read Liber L, 6 or 7 years ago (not quite sure!!, would have to search the diaries).this sole recognition initiated series of changes in my personality and 'outer' circumstances of life.
                          but it was only recently - during the last six months - that I started to openly declare myself as a Thelemite. I thought previously that not doing so had been because of not wanting to put a label on myself, but actually it was out of fear of social nonacceptance. it was necessary for me to grow emotionally stronger and more independent to realize that.
                          ....

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                            The Law of Thelema begins with eleven words:

                            Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                            Because Our Lady of the Stars, Nuit, said also

                            Love is the law, love under will.

                            that too has been added to the Law of Thelema. So for basic consideration, the Law of Thelema is complete with

                            Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                            Love is the law, love under will.

                            Some add another phrase from Our Lady: Every man and every woman is a star. - so that the Law is almost as often expressed as

                            Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                            Every man and every woman is a star.
                            Love is the law, love under will.

                            I mentioned all that above just for the sake of those who are not familiar with what is called The Law of Thelema.

                            What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life. I accepted the Law of Thelema in 1996.

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                            gmugmble
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                            I have a dear friend who has no interest in Thelema. I gave her a copy of the Book of the Law once; she read the first chapter, said a few polite words, and hasn't touched it since. But she's led the most "thelemic" life of anyone I know, struggling again and again to find the means to do her will in the face of an environment that has pointedly tried to stop her and to indoctrinate her in the belief that she is not capable or worthy of doing her will, or that she shouldn't because it will hurt someone. Without any instruction but her own inner guidance she has consistently prevailed against this, for which she has my greatest admiration.

                            I don't think it's a matter of accepting the law of Thelema, but of doing it. (The first word of the law is "Do".)

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                              The Law of Thelema begins with eleven words:

                              Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                              Because Our Lady of the Stars, Nuit, said also

                              Love is the law, love under will.

                              that too has been added to the Law of Thelema. So for basic consideration, the Law of Thelema is complete with

                              Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                              Love is the law, love under will.

                              Some add another phrase from Our Lady: Every man and every woman is a star. - so that the Law is almost as often expressed as

                              Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                              Every man and every woman is a star.
                              Love is the law, love under will.

                              I mentioned all that above just for the sake of those who are not familiar with what is called The Law of Thelema.

                              What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life. I accepted the Law of Thelema in 1996.

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                              Takamba
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                              @gmugmble said

                              "I don't think it's a matter of accepting the law of Thelema, but of doing it. (The first word of the law is "Do".)"

                              Excellent. 😄

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                                The Law of Thelema begins with eleven words:

                                Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                                Because Our Lady of the Stars, Nuit, said also

                                Love is the law, love under will.

                                that too has been added to the Law of Thelema. So for basic consideration, the Law of Thelema is complete with

                                Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                                Love is the law, love under will.

                                Some add another phrase from Our Lady: Every man and every woman is a star. - so that the Law is almost as often expressed as

                                Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                                Every man and every woman is a star.
                                Love is the law, love under will.

                                I mentioned all that above just for the sake of those who are not familiar with what is called The Law of Thelema.

                                What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life. I accepted the Law of Thelema in 1996.

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                                Avshalom Binyamin
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                                I imagine a world where the Law of Thelema holds sway, and most people still think that Crowley was a sicko.

                                Sometimes, I wonder if Crowley's reputation were a gift to future masses, saving them from yet another aeon where they have yet another demigod to look up to...

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                                  The Law of Thelema begins with eleven words:

                                  Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                                  Because Our Lady of the Stars, Nuit, said also

                                  Love is the law, love under will.

                                  that too has been added to the Law of Thelema. So for basic consideration, the Law of Thelema is complete with

                                  Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                                  Love is the law, love under will.

                                  Some add another phrase from Our Lady: Every man and every woman is a star. - so that the Law is almost as often expressed as

                                  Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                                  Every man and every woman is a star.
                                  Love is the law, love under will.

                                  I mentioned all that above just for the sake of those who are not familiar with what is called The Law of Thelema.

                                  What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life. I accepted the Law of Thelema in 1996.

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                                  sphinx666
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                                  Yes!

                                  After first reading of The Book Of The Law, which for awhile knew I had to at least read but avoided with disgust, fear, dread, and worry of unleashing all the hounds of hell into my living room. After reading, I was stunned and thought, "What have I done"! I was physically sick. He is the Wickedest Man on Earth! Chapter 3 got me.

                                  I persisted with the guidance from the HGA.

                                  In 1997 I took an Oath and swore that it would be my sole rule of life with no turning back. From that day until now, I am sure I have failed every single day in living up to that oath, but I continue to persist in the right understanding and application of the Law of Thelema.

                                  Thanks for asking. This forum helps a great deal in better understanding. Thanks, All!

                                  Marc

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                                    The Law of Thelema begins with eleven words:

                                    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                                    Because Our Lady of the Stars, Nuit, said also

                                    Love is the law, love under will.

                                    that too has been added to the Law of Thelema. So for basic consideration, the Law of Thelema is complete with

                                    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                                    Love is the law, love under will.

                                    Some add another phrase from Our Lady: Every man and every woman is a star. - so that the Law is almost as often expressed as

                                    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                                    Every man and every woman is a star.
                                    Love is the law, love under will.

                                    I mentioned all that above just for the sake of those who are not familiar with what is called The Law of Thelema.

                                    What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life. I accepted the Law of Thelema in 1996.

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                                    Archaeus
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                                    I first read Liber legis in about 1998-2000, i forget exactly, it struck an instant chord, but I still had a lot of crap in my head to get out.
                                    so far I have found that ignoring its message brings suffering, usually in the form of trying too hard to please other people or fit in to their expectations, and usually failing when my internal nature makes itself felt.
                                    I fully accepted the Law, cutting off all that went against it only a few months ago, and for want of A better way of putting it, finally really alive after 30 years of half hearted living.

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                                      The Law of Thelema begins with eleven words:

                                      Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                                      Because Our Lady of the Stars, Nuit, said also

                                      Love is the law, love under will.

                                      that too has been added to the Law of Thelema. So for basic consideration, the Law of Thelema is complete with

                                      Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                                      Love is the law, love under will.

                                      Some add another phrase from Our Lady: Every man and every woman is a star. - so that the Law is almost as often expressed as

                                      Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                                      Every man and every woman is a star.
                                      Love is the law, love under will.

                                      I mentioned all that above just for the sake of those who are not familiar with what is called The Law of Thelema.

                                      What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life. I accepted the Law of Thelema in 1996.

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                                      Froclown
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                                      I still say
                                      Had! the manifestation of Nuit
                                      is the first words in the Law of Thelema. Since the law does not refer to some subset of the words but to the entire text.

                                      HAD!
                                      the particular the individual point perspective. The exclamation indicates that it stands alone, Exclaming it's own existence.

                                      Then the other part "The manifestation of Nuit"
                                      This is a commentary upon HAD!
                                      The self proclaiming it's own existence, (Being formulating Dasein) is in fact the manifestation of Nuit

                                      That is the kinetic activation of the infinite potential. The finite concentration and expression of the infinite.

                                      Thus is the beginning of the LAW. Where the WILL first comes into Being.

                                      HAD! child of the cosmic womb fist opens it's eye and the world manifests. The Khabs becomes enveloped in the Khu from this point on.

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                                        The Law of Thelema begins with eleven words:

                                        Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                                        Because Our Lady of the Stars, Nuit, said also

                                        Love is the law, love under will.

                                        that too has been added to the Law of Thelema. So for basic consideration, the Law of Thelema is complete with

                                        Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                                        Love is the law, love under will.

                                        Some add another phrase from Our Lady: Every man and every woman is a star. - so that the Law is almost as often expressed as

                                        Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                                        Every man and every woman is a star.
                                        Love is the law, love under will.

                                        I mentioned all that above just for the sake of those who are not familiar with what is called The Law of Thelema.

                                        What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life. I accepted the Law of Thelema in 1996.

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                                        Edward Mason
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                                        93,
                                        Froclown wrote:

                                        "Since the law does not refer to some subset of the words but to the entire text. "

                                        Then why does the Book say " Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law? That is, doing one's Will is the entirety of the Law of Thelema? The rest of the Book is sublime explication.

                                        93 93/93,

                                        Edward

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                                        • T Takamba

                                          The Law of Thelema begins with eleven words:

                                          Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                                          Because Our Lady of the Stars, Nuit, said also

                                          Love is the law, love under will.

                                          that too has been added to the Law of Thelema. So for basic consideration, the Law of Thelema is complete with

                                          Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                                          Love is the law, love under will.

                                          Some add another phrase from Our Lady: Every man and every woman is a star. - so that the Law is almost as often expressed as

                                          Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
                                          Every man and every woman is a star.
                                          Love is the law, love under will.

                                          I mentioned all that above just for the sake of those who are not familiar with what is called The Law of Thelema.

                                          What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life. I accepted the Law of Thelema in 1996.

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                                          @Froclown said

                                          "I still say
                                          Had! the manifestation of Nuit
                                          is the first words in the Law of Thelema. Since the law does not refer to some subset of the words but to the entire text.

                                          HAD!
                                          the particular the individual point perspective. The exclamation indicates that it stands alone, Exclaming it's own existence.

                                          Then the other part "The manifestation of Nuit"
                                          This is a commentary upon HAD!
                                          The self proclaiming it's own existence, (Being formulating Dasein) is in fact the manifestation of Nuit

                                          That is the kinetic activation of the infinite potential. The finite concentration and expression of the infinite.

                                          Thus is the beginning of the LAW. Where the WILL first comes into Being.

                                          HAD! child of the cosmic womb fist opens it's eye and the world manifests. The Khabs becomes enveloped in the Khu from this point on."

                                          Then I say you are making an error. Nuit was speaking those words in the Book of the Law ("This that thou writest is the threefold book of Law.") Therefore, since She didn't say (nor did Aiwass relate) "This that thou writest is the Law," we know "HAD" is not a word of the Law but a word about the Law. Then later She says, "There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt." And later still Aiwass relates from Her, "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. "

                                          The W H O L E of the Law.

                                          "The word of the Law is THELEMA"

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