Can someone who works with angels do me a favor?
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I assume many of you regularly communicate with at least the 4 angels of the LBRP and I have read several stories of people actually obtaining knowledge from these 4 angels alone simply by use of the LBRP, then facing the proper cardinal direction and, if I recall correctly, vibrating the angel's name with dagger/wand piercing the center of the star until it creates an undeniable visual presence and finally asking questions which the angel answers. Also, I'm sure others of you work with Enochian angels and god forms, etc.
I am really curious what these entities would say about Dzogchen. I have read a lot online from various people about Thelema's natural compatibility with Vajrayana, especially the highest Atiyoga (Dzogchen) teachings and it just occurred to me that there is a very simple way to test this: ask the spirits. If the 4 arcangels disagree and if the Enochian angels disagree, then obviously they are not compatible. Topics to ask about would be Garab Dorje, Dzogchen, Padmasambhava, Samantabhadra, and the historical Buddha, if you like.
Those of you who have working dialogues with such beings will probably receive very straightforward answers. It could help clear up a lot of confusion and might be a good idea to spread around. For all the people trying to combine these areas of interest, I have never actually read of anyone doing this before. And it seems so obvious.
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I don't work with angels at all. I'm actually currently selling most of my WMT books and was just writing a review of a newly-released Dzogchen book that mistakenly references "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" in the introduction. I felt compelled to point out the author really effed up by not researching the phrase and that he went on to describe something that sounded fairly compatible with Thelema, actually, which of course he did not intend to do. The author interpreted it to mean "do whatever you want" and was pointing out that is not really the case in Dzogchen.
Anyway, the nature of Dzogchen is such that if the angels (or any spirits) deny it, never heard of it or don't even know what you're talking about, then they are not compatible. If an angel were to explain it and it did not contradict the 1,084,000 verses of Garab Dorje, then it would be compatible.
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@Iugum said
"I do have a diary entry, somewhere, from a few years back when working with the Aethyrs and I felt that one specific experience dealt with Dzogchen. I never studied Dzogchen at all but I remember this "being" spoke of the "Great Perfection" and was housed within a circular rainbow (a thigle?). I always check out my visions after they happen and I found that this one expressed itself with symbolism and ideas common to Dzogchen. I'm trying to find it but it could take awhile since these were written down so I can't CTRL+F and find my entries. I'll post it, along with my interpretation, when I find it."
That is correct. How did you feel about the Thigle? What did it mean, etc.? Who was the entity who gave you this symbol?
I don't mean to interrogate you, I am just curious. The symbols of Dzogchen are fairly easy to imagine almost happening by accident. The devil is in the details, etc. blah blah blah... I would be curious about what angels said if you straight-up asked them about Dzogchen. If they are like, "Huh?" then obviously they never heard of it.