Bornless Ritual
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Greetings,
I've tried this ritual the headless/bornless one several times and think I may be approaching it wrongly.
At the completion of the ritual, are you supposed to dwell in the condition of the "bornless one" for a while and do something with it or just end the ritual when you finish reading the words?
I usually spend a couple of minutes dwelling in the union that is manifested when I finish reading the words.
How often should this ritual be done?
I'm doing it once every month and don't seem to be getting any result.
I am using the Stephen Flowers version from Hermetic Magic.
Thanks
Larry -
@Mahanta70 said
"Greetings,
I've tried this ritual the headless/bornless one several times and think I may be approaching it wrongly.
At the completion of the ritual, are you supposed to dwell in the condition of the "bornless one" for a while and do something with it or just end the ritual when you finish reading the words?
I usually spend a couple of minutes dwelling in the union that is manifested when I finish reading the words.
How often should this ritual be done?
I'm doing it once every month and don't seem to be getting any result.
I am using the Stephen Flowers version from Hermetic Magic.
Thanks
Larry"Remember the key to invocation - "Invoke often!"
Also, what results are you looking for? Personally, once a month seems way too infrequent to get truly serious results (not that I've done the Bornless Ritual, as I haven't.)
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@gmugmble said
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@Takamba said
"I used to perform it daily - two three times daily"And what, may I ask, came of it?"
It is an invocation (bring in) of The Bornless One,the One without Age, Myself Made Perfect Whom No Man Hath Seen at Any Time. It has many things that come of it. I won't mention the specifics of any existential crisis you might find, that might ruin the surprise of it. What it clearly does is put you at the reigns of your Chariot.
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@Ash said
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Remember the key to invocation - "Invoke often!"
Also, what results are you looking for? Personally, once a month seems way too infrequent to get truly serious results (not that I've done the Bornless Ritual, as I haven't.)"
I'm trying to create a bond with my daimon like Flowers writes in the book. I guess I will not get too far doing it once a month after all!
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@Takamba said
"I used to perform it daily - two three times daily - which includes once or twice daily in the mental/astral while jogging a half mile track around & around. I'm older now - don't jog so much.
AR O GO GO RU ABRAO SOTOU MUDORIO"
That's cool. My question is what do you do after you finish the invocation, are you supposed to close the operation or are you supposed to dwell in it for a few minutes, or do some Rising on the Planes work with it?
All the books just tell you to invoke it and don't specify what to do after the invocation's final words escape your lips. -
@Takamba said
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@gmugmble said
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@Takamba said
"I used to perform it daily - two three times daily"And what, may I ask, came of it?"
It is an invocation (bring in) of The Bornless One,the One without Age, Myself Made Perfect Whom No Man Hath Seen at Any Time. It has many things that come of it. I won't mention the specifics of any existential crisis you might find, that might ruin the surprise of it. What it clearly does is put you at the reigns of your Chariot."
Which version did you use? There are so many! The one in Hermetic magic seems to cut to the chase.
Is there anyone on this board with a Bornless Ritual story?
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In practice, I would say I use the version in Liber ABA. But I first learned the version in the Weiser 1995 edition of The Goetia. I was meddling with the Goetia before I discovered any others.
The use of the Preliminary Invocation in that work is intended as the beginning of the geometric truth of the whole process (from start to finish, the process of communicating with the goetia follows a pattern). In the pattern of that work, you use the invocation to embody (invoke) that which is the essence of all things, the begetter of all things, left/right and black/white, Asar Un-Nefer (Myself made Perfect), The Bornless One. At the end of that invocation you should declare "I am He!" - to command the spirits, you begin with aligning to the most divine. This is your authority. Then you perform the conjurations, as you have authority to do. And you command the spirits - and then, as you already expect, there is the License to Part. Fin.
As for Liber Samekh, I highly recommend you read Point II The Art of Congress with the Daimon (but I think you said you aren't interested in that I guess). And yes, for that purpose it would just be disaster (or at least a waste of time) to do any closing operations - unless you are using it as a preliminary invocation to a ritual. But that's just geometry.
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For those of you who have had success with the Bornless ritual, did there ever come a point when you did not need it anymore? Or do you still use the Bornless ritual on a daily basis regardless of results you may have already had with it?