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    I am very surprised to hear that you cannot find a Thelemic group, or several, somewhere in Holland. You would think there would be something in Amsterdam, or Rotterdam. but if you have looked on the internet and not found anything I don't know what to say. Maybe there is the possibility of finding something in Germany. After all, you are only about an hour away from Köln and the cities in the Rühr valley—maybe find some German branch of the OTO?

    Love and Will

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    @Elmida said

    " They did have an e-mail address up though, so maybe I can ask if they know a location or someone that can give me more info."

    You may have to resolve yourself to doing a bit of digging, maybe start something yourself with a few other people who share your interests when and if you find each other.

    @Elmida said

    " Also, tsks, Germany. (J/k of course.)"

    I hear ya.

    @Elmida said

    " I just got a truly wonderful PM from Danica with help on how to start with the literature, so I guess that's already a step forward. Ordering the Book of Law ASAP and hopefully it won't be as hard as it seems..."

    This sounds great. In a way, this forum exists specifically for people like yourself. Stay in touch and don't be shy about asking questions. I know you will get a very warm response to match your earnestness.

    Love and Will

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    Frater MVKDSh
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    Read, read, read. Then read some more. Read it all with the 777 so you can learn the correspondences. Somewhere in theses books you will start to understand:)

    After that you will be confident in what you do:)

    There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt.

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    armedwithlunchboxes
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    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.

    I really sympathise whith your problem. I don't know how much this will help but this page hermetic.com/crowley/ has all almost all of crowleys libers and other writings. and it realy helped me become familiar with his body of work. Good luck!

    Love is the law, love under will.

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    My best advice is to throw yourself into as much reading material as you can possibly handle for as long as you can possibly handle it, and try to become theoretically well-rounded. Then begin whatever practices interest you and keep a serious magical diary chronicling your practices.

    From personal experience, here's a list of books by topic that may interest you. (You can probably find most online for free.)
    I will note which books I have heard recommended before but which I haven't actually read.

    Qabalah:

    The Mystical Qabalah by Dion Fortune (skip all the chapters before the ones on the Sephiroth and just read about the Sephiroth directly.)
    A Garden of Pomegranates by Israel Regardie (slightly difficult, maybe better as a 2nd or 3rd book on the subject)
    777 by Aleister Crowley (just a necessity to have on one's shelf or hard drive)
    The Book of Thoth by Aleister Crowley (I consider Tarot most related to Qabalah)

    Mysticism:

    Raja Yoga by Swami Vivekananda
    Book IV (part 1 of the whole book) by Aleister Crowley
    Eight Lectures on Yoga by Crowley (just google this one)

    Magick:

    Book IV (parts 2 and 3) by Aleister Crowley
    The Tree of Life by Israel Regardie
    The Sacred Magic of Abra-Melin the Mage (translated by S.L. MacGregor Mathers)

    Thelema:

    The Book of the Law by AC
    Gems from the Equinox, edited by Israel Regardie but actual text from AC
    The Law is for All (I have not read most of this yet) by AC
    Liber Aleph (I have not read most of this yet) by AC
    Book IV (Part 4) by AC
    The Mystical and Magical System of the A.'.A.'. by Jim Eshelman (this book is fantastic)

    Various other things written by Crowley's pen (almost all of which can be found online):

    Liber LXV (Liber Cordis Cincti Serpente)
    Liber CL (De Lege Libellum)
    Liber E vel Exercitiorum
    Liber O vel Manus et Sagittae
    Liber NU
    Liber HAD
    Liber Astarte
    Liber Porta Lucis (I personally like this one a lot)
    Liber Librae
    One Star in Sight
    Liber Causae
    Liber Tzaddi
    Liber Resh vel Helios
    The Law of Liberty
    Little Essays towards Truth (you can find this through google)
    Magick Without Tears (you can find this through google, believe it or not)

    And Jim Eshelman's new book Visions and Voices is excellent as well, although I have not gotten to the heart of the book yet (I'm saving that for a more appropriate time, when I can really concentrate on it and extract some serious gold).

    And now, for some good links!

    www.sacred-texts.com/oto/index.htm
    Many of the works in the preceeding section of this post can be found here.

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    An excellent site where you can find many PDF versions of books. I recommend actually physically owning as many as possible, but I'm throwing this out there anyway.

    hermetic.com/legis/new-commen
    The Old and New comments to Liber Legis, side by side.

    hermetic.com/crowley/little-essays-towards-truth/index.html
    Little Essays Towards Truth. Many short but enlightening essays.

    www.aumha.org/arcane/ccxx.htm
    Jim's interpretation of many (not all) verses of Liber Legis. Very helpful because Jim tends to talk in easily-understandable terms, making him stand in stark contrast to Crowley.

    I have read (at some point or another) everything listed here, with the few exceptions noted, but don't take this list as absolute - I'm just throwing ideas out there so you have some place to start from. Just try bashing your head into as much stuff as possible for a long time, and it'll begin to sink in.

    I think the easiest places to start are:
    Magick Without Tears
    Little Essays Towards Truth
    Eight Lectures on Yoga
    De Lege Libellum
    The Law of Liberty
    and Crowley's comments on Liber Legis.

    The best part is that all of these can be found online.

    I hope this is helpful =p

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    Archaeus
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    93

    did you look here?
    www.oto-nl.org

    just a thought

    93 93/93

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    Glad to be of Service.

    93 93/93 😀

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