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Arriving at the current Thelemic date, query

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    93 all,

    I am having some difficulty in understanding on how one arrives at the current thelemic date.

    I have found the following online, and I quote "...The Thelemic calendar counts years from 1904 e.v. (the year Liber AL was received). Each Thelemic year starts on Vernal Equinox of the year. Rather than simply giving the year count from 1904, the Thelemic calendar uses a two-tiered system. The "upper" level gives a count of twenty-two year periods since 1904; the "lower" level gives the years since the start of the current twenty-two year period. Both are zero-based, with nonzero numbers being represented as upper and lower case Roman numerals, respectively. So, for example, the civil year 1996 is (after March 20) Thelemic year IViv (because 1904 + (4 * 22) + 4 equals 1996).
    Some Thelemites assign the twenty-two years of each cycle to the twenty-two Trumps of the Tarot. The 22-year period numbers themselves are also assigned in this way. Hence, 1996 is doubly linked to Trump IV of the Tarot, the Emperor.
    Within each year, dates and times are often expressed by the positions of Sun and Moon in the Tropical zodiac. For example, May 12, 1996 e.v. at 6pm PST would be expressed as "IViv, Sol 22° Taurus, Luna 29° Pisces." This specifies the precise date and time to within about two hours.
    When giving dates in the civil calendar, Thelemites will often append "e.v." This is an abbreviation of the Latin phrase "era vulgaris," or "common era.".

    According to an application that I am using to calculate the thelemic date the current date is An iv18 Sol 27° Aquarius, Luna 28° Cancer Dies Mercurii
    Wednesday, February 16, 2011 e.v. 12:34 AM

    Shouldn't it be An iv19? An iv18 = 2010?

    I apologize if this seems rather poorly worded out, or am I missing something obvious and making this more difficult then it really is. 🙄

    Thank you in advance,

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    @RvCH said

    "Shouldn't it be An iv19? An iv18 = 2010?"

    No, you had it right. The Resh year doesn't begin until (northern hemisphere) Vernal Equinox.

    iv19 means (4x22)+19, right? That's 88+19=107 which, added to 1904, gives 2011.

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    93 Jim,

    Thank you for answering my question. And yes, the application that I am using is showing 19 rather then it's roman numeral equivalent of XIX.

    Which leads me to ask why is my software apparently one year behind in its calculations. It makes little difference since I can arrive at the date manually.

    Again, thank you for your help.

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    93,

    My software is displaying the right thelemic date, I wasn't taking into account the Vernal equinox. Anything prior to the vernal equinox would be displayed as IV 18, dates after the Vernal Equinox would be displayed as IV 19.

    It's not the software that is wrong, it's the computer user that's slow. 😀

    Thanks again for your help

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