776 1/2 and Diacritical Marks
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I'm not interested in doing anything that broad; but I'd consider a product that addressed key words in particular languages, say Hebrew and Greek. It might include a discussion of pronunciation within that language overall, but would need to focus primarily on giving pronunciations of a specific words set (e.g., words of a specific ritual or set of rituals, or a list of commonly encountered words, etc.).
One issue, though, is that visual/textual materials would need to accompany it. One would have to reference diacritical marks native to the languages, and other factors. If it's more than a couple of sheets of paper, then it becomes an actual printing cost / binding project etc., and adds a different dimension to manufacturing and pricing. (I would, therefore, like to keep such a thing reduced to a couple of sheets of paper.)
One also has to plan where to start - the baseline of the audience. For example, we may simply start with presuming that one knows the Greek and Hebrew alphabets, can read and write the letters at will, knows their names, etc.
As I said... it's a project all of its own.
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I see what you mean. Food for thought, though... I'll let it percolate and if any ideas pop up I'll get back again.
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@JIm
Pronunciation of the god names on a cd would be very helpful
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@Frater ALLAShALLA said
"Pronunciation of the god names on a cd would be very helpful
"Do you mean the Hebrew divine names? Or something else?
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This is just one of your readers speaking, but I would pay $200+ for 776 1/2 & pronunciation CD.
EDIT: Perhaps it would be more useful to release such a CD with the introductory book you mentioned in this post?
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@Jim Eshelman said
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@Frater ALLAShALLA said
"Pronunciation of the god names on a cd would be very helpful"Do you mean the Hebrew divine names? Or something else?"
Well, one I word I have always been confused about is IAO. Is the I pronounced "eye" of "ee". Is the A pronounced "ah" or "aye". Stuff like that.
I would think all the divine names in Greek and Hebrew would be important.
There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt.
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@Frater ALLAShALLA said
"Well, one I word I have always been confused about is IAO. Is the I pronounced "eye" of "ee". Is the A pronounced "ah" or "aye". Stuff like that."
Eeee-Ahhhh-Ohhhhh
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@Jim Eshelman said
"If we did such a thing, what would you want included on it?"
Enochian pronunciation guide. I have read the suggestions for how to pronounce Enochian in Regardie's The Golden Dawn, but they seemed rather general without actually hearing this put into practice by someone who knows what they are doing.
It only takes a one exposure to someone suggesting an alternate pronunciation to those rules to make one very unsure of ones own interpretation. Even people connected with Regardie's previous work, like the Cicero's seem to suggest pronunciations for the Enochian words used in the Greater Invoking Ritual of the Pentagram that seem to ignore some of the guidelines laid down in the Golden Dawn.
Love and Will
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@RobertAllen said
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@Jim Eshelman said
"If we did such a thing, what would you want included on it?"Enochian pronunciation guide."
That would be a separate project... but, in any case, just get Laycock's Enochian Dictionary and you have nearly everything I'd say (and applied to the entire known Enochian vocabulary).
"I have read the suggestions for how to pronounce Enochian in Regardie's The Golden Dawn, but they seemed rather general without actually hearing this put into practice by someone who knows what they are doing."
Those instructions are specifically for chanting Enochian, rather than (as if conversationally) speaking it. The instructions also were originally intended only for Divine Names and a few other things. In any case, their a formula - more like instructions on how one sings Gregorian chant - and not actual pronunciation (in the same sense as dictionary pronunciation) - the latter you will get from Laycock.
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"Now, a separate question (and perhaps your underlying question) would be: But how about just making the CD, and making it available on its own? We could probably do this for $15-$20 plus shipping costs. I think I could find someone with an extraordinary voice, and someone else willing to donate most of the time and energy to record and engineer it. It would be a distinct project. If we did such a thing, what would you want included on it?
"How about on iTunes or something similar? A distribution online via MP3 - for a price of course. I know pirating comes into play there, but pirating risks are similar for CDs. Just a thought. However, I would be willing to spend the dough on it. I've listened to Regardie, some people on YouTube (with a grain of salt), and some Podcasts I've heard.
It helps us extreme novices in grounding us in knowing we're actually getting the basics down properly.
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@Jim Eshelman said
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But my question was: Is there an inconsistency or non-uniformity in the book? If so, I'd like to correct it in future printings.
"No, is a Very Well made Book!!! Just curious about that.
@Jim Eshelman said
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Let me ask you, as a reader: Would you have preferred that this NOT be given for the Pentagram ritual, or that it BE given for the MP?
"Yes, I preferred that it was given for the MP too.
A last question: What do you think about Regardie's recordings?
Thanks.
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I haven't heard them in decades, so I really don't remember them enough to give an opinion.