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Astral Dwelling: The Mystics 'House of Bread'.

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    The Universe just moved! Oh wow! It's moved again!

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    yep:)

    The disk spins 😄

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    "It is what it is." "What is it?" "Not what you imagine."

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    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

    ummmm....not what I meant 😄

    I cant really explain because I feel that some things should remain private. But I will say this:

    You will find yourself in the grip of a storm if you do not understand yourself. You will have no control over your actions or your environment. You must understand on an intimate level why you act, feel and think before you can claim your destiny.

    You dont need magick to know yourself. But magick does make the journey much easier and lessens the pain and consequences of your actions.

    This I know to be TRUE with certainty.

    Love is the law, love under will.

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    You know, you're already been warned. Not to be a pain or anything else for that matter.

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    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

    @Vlad said

    "You know, you're already been warned. Not to be a pain or anything else for that matter."

    What does that mean? Very odd thing to say....... 🆒

    Love is the law, love under will.

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    @Frater MVKDSh said

    "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

    @Vlad said

    "You know, you're already been warned. Not to be a pain or anything else for that matter."

    What does that mean? Very odd thing to say....... 🆒

    Love is the law, love under will."

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    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

    @Dar:

    To answer your question: Fire. If you have no choice but to know yourself, then you will know yourself or ............(I dont want to finish the sentence. sorry).

    Love is the law, love under will.

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    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.

    I just thought of a better way of putting my particular understanding of this. It is like being in a sense deprivation tank. Time and Space cease to exist as laws of physics. Thoughts begin to rise. These thoughts begin to consume you pushing you faster and faster towards insanity. You either go insane or you deal with the thoughts. The only escape is to allow the opposite thought to arise to balance out the mind. Eventually your mind clears and you start chaining your thoughts to their root. Eventually you understand why you act the way you act, why you feel the way you feel, and why your spirit cries in suffering.

    Once you understand the why you realize what needs to be done in order to be a joyous, balanced individual.

    Love is the law, love under will.

    Fraternally,


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    @Frater MVKDSh said

    "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.

    I just thought of a better way of putting my particular understanding of this. It is like being in a sense deprivation tank. Time and Space cease to exist as laws of physics. Thoughts begin to rise. These thoughts begin to consume you pushing you faster and faster towards insanity. You either go insane or you deal with the thoughts. The only escape is to allow the opposite thought to arise to balance out the mind. Eventually your mind clears and you start chaining your thoughts to their root. Eventually you understand why you act the way you act, why you feel the way you feel, and why your spirit cries in suffering.

    Once you understand the why you realize what needs to be done in order to be a joyous, balanced individual.

    Love is the law, love under will.

    Fraternally,
    *****"

    If I were actually going to make a suggestion, I'd say something like Try writing all that, try speaking all that and anything else you speak without using the word "you." Use the word "I" for now (even though, yes, in exercise with Liber III you may wish to learn to avoid the word "I", I'm asking you to learn to quit project with the word "you"). Identify with this for now.

    Let's see what difference in your powers of perception this might generate.

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    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

    Lets look at this in a rational manner. There are only 3 options in this situation. First, I am crazy. Second, I am lying, or third I am describing a genuine mystical state.

    Rebuttal: I am to coherent to be confused about the difference between fantasy and reality. Therefore I am not insane.

    That only leaves 2 options. I described a process in extreme detail. Therefore, if I made up my experience those who have experienced this reality will be able to instantly recognize It. However, if I am describing a valid mystical state those who also have experienced this state should be able to recognize what I am talking about.

    I dont care what you decide. Just do it in a calm, rational manner;)

    Love is the law, love under will.
    Fraternally,


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    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

    @ DAR

    Stars come into the Temple through Different Gates. Thats the Beauty of it 😄

    Lobve is the law, love under will.

    Fraternally,


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    @Frater MVKDSh said

    "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

    @Vlad said

    "You know, you're already been warned. Not to be a pain or anything else for that matter."

    What does that mean? Very odd thing to say....... 🆒

    Love is the law, love under will."
    Oh, sorry. I meant you've already been warned. Excuse my english, it's not my tongue. Also, I really am not trying to be rude or anything else for that matter. But what you're saying really doesn't make much sense.

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    @Frater MVKDSh said

    "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

    Lets look at this in a rational manner. There are only 3 options in this situation. First, I am crazy. Second, I am lying, or third I am describing a genuine mystical state.
    *****"

    The fourth option: You are genuinely in the right forest, but you have gotten yourself lost.

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    @Takamba said

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    @Frater MVKDSh said
    "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

    Lets look at this in a rational manner. There are only 3 options in this situation. First, I am crazy. Second, I am lying, or third I am describing a genuine mystical state.
    *****"

    The fourth option: You are genuinely in the right forest, but you have gotten yourself lost."
    Yes. I was even going to commend on your description, but the post got lost. You're a sensitive guy, but don't get too sensitive. You may have even gotten into something, I have no clue. But it's really nothing, just go on with the work. It's a bit like when I was twenty and had my first very powerful experience, or let myself have it. I got completely wacko.

    You are not making sense.

    All love

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    To be modest, you're describing me. And the funny part is that I'm not really like that, thinking anything about myself; it has more to do with my anxiousness. Whenever I get a glimpse of happiness, and this may often be better than any ecstasy of meditative states, that can feel more like drugs, then I don't have to think about myself anymore.

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    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

    Thats the truth. I think the Ego is just a tool. I dont see any reason to worry about it. When I see the Abyss unfold in front of me I will worry about the Ego;)

    And i wasnt "teaching you" anything;)

    Love is the law, love under will.

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    The ego, just like anything else, has to be given its own due, not more or less.

    You think that the ego is just a tool. How do you conclude that. That's not your own thought, and it really seems you do not grasp it.

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    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

    I listen 🆒

    Love is the law, love under will.

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    I'm sure you're listening, but I'm not the kind of guy who loves to argue, so I'll stop at this.

    Also, I don't have any thoughts about the ego, because I hold no opinions about it. I can only make some derivations from what I've read, and a little bit from what I've experienced, nothing more, and that's not much.

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