Magically severing ties
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@he atlas itch said
"*When Crowley finally accepted that Hilarion would not return to him, he decided to magickally sever his ties with her, as he had done with Neuberg before leaving for America. Thus, he waited outside her Manhattan office until she appeared on the street at closing time. He confronted her, drawing from his coat his dagger, yellow and inscribed with Hebrew names and sigils. She gasped, thinking he was about to kill her. As he conducted the banishing ritual, a crowd gathered to watch. In the confusion, Jeanne vanished into the crowd, believing she had escaped a clumsy murder attempt. *"
hilarious@he atlas itch said
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Does anyone have any idea what ritual Crowley carried out to sever his ties with Sr Hilarion or Neuberg? "from the passage above, it looks to me that he used simple LBRP, probably modified for the purpose.
"No need for drama, I’m looking for effective rituals done in solitude to sever any lingering soul-ties with an ex-partner. Thanks."
I've done it by simply imagining (with strong concentration) that I am cutting the ties that connect us (I used scissors
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"I've done it by simply imagining (with strong concentration) that I am cutting the ties that connect us (I used scissors ). in order for it to be effective, you have to be as neutral as possible emotionally - completely indifferent is the best.
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Dion Fortune, in Psychic Self-Defense, recommends a similar technique for breaking links with people. You imagine your connection to them as an ethereal cord. In one hand you have a sword. In the other a torch. With the sword, in your discernment, you sever the connecting cord. With the torch, you use the holy fire of Spirit to ...sort of... cauterize their end of the connection, which will otherwise naturally try to heal its own unhealthy connection with you.
Regarding the neutrality - Yes, in my experience too. Intense emotion is the root of the connection, and feeds the continued attempts at the reconnection of the cord. The sword, and the discernment it represents and requires, is dispassionate. As long as there is intense emotion, the connection will attempt to reform itself. You may need to perform this exercise over a period of time to reinforce the severance.
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@Dar said
"I flush pictures of them down the toilet."
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93, 93/93.
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I tried using strong emotion(anger), and it didn't work so well. I'll have to give the emotionless way a try. Thanks.
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Brown candles are great for emotionlessness
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@FiliusBestia said
"I tried using strong emotion(anger), and it didn't work so well. I'll have to give the emotionless way a try. Thanks."
I've had similar experiences. The reason this doesn't work, I think, is that the two opposite emotions involved are just that: opposites. They're both equally intense. Especially in the realm of love, trying to hate the other person never works, because it's usually just as strong, and is just a new form for the same force.
Starving the current is the better option, I think.
93, 93/93.
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
I'll second the emotionless route.
The proper attitude for banishing is one of icy detachment, I think that severing ties is something we all have to do at some point or other in our lives, I personally believe that the place to start with this is with ourselves, it is not so much a case of banishing the other person as it is a case of weaning yourself off that person, that's never going to be easy, we are social creatures, and our attachments to others are pretty much hard wired into us and to a great extent define who we are.
I have found that the best way to treat attachment to other people, especially to members of the opposite sex, (or the same if that's your thing) is to treat it as you would any other addiction, that is, in the first instance, to avoid all contact, at least for a while, and secondly to break up the habitual though patterns that take you back to them; because these thought patterns are usually tied closely to the sex instinct this can be one tough nut to crack, but believe me it can be done.
I have found it useful to treat the problem as I would a case of Pratyahara, i.e, as soon as the though arises, rather than automatically attaching to it, you simply let it run it's course so that it runs out of steam as it were and goes of it's own accord, in this way the mind ceases to become distorted by that one though and in time becomes much more naturally balanced.
On the other hand, spending some time doing endless LBRP or Liber 25 rituals can be a great supplementary therapy, but just as its no good proscribing pills to somebody who then carries on with the same lifestyle that made them ill in the first place, rituals on their own won't do the slightest bit of good if you cannot also change the habitual lifestyle/though patterns that cause your problem in the first place; this is what is meant, (in this case at least) by Love under Will.Love is the law, love under will.
Fr .'.
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May I suggest that emotionlessness means not getting complete. It means there is no real separation.
Of course, you don't want to be reactive. But that's not the same as having no feelings.
A ritual that allows for emotional completeness will likely be more effective.
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@Jim Eshelman said
"May I suggest that emotionlessness means not getting complete. It means there is no real separation."
That's a good point Jim, emotionless may not be the right way to put it, I should have said detached instead.
emotionless can be nothing more than a band-aid over the heart-wound, an anaesthetic if you like; developing the wholeness of a self-contained person, without requiring the other person for validation might be a good way to go.
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@danica said
"from the passage above, it looks to me that he used simple LBRP, probably modified for the purpose"
It does sound like the LBRP but its unclear how the ritual should be performed with regards to the person being banished – i.e. are they situated in the East?
Regarding AC’s embarrassing behaviour toward Sr Hilarion, Perdurabo also notes that when she refused to join him after their California trip, AC sent anonymous poison letters to her old husband, accusing her of living with a wealthy lawyer and planning to poison him. Then he carried out the public ritual for severing his link with her.
My general sense of AC during his time in the USA was that he really played up his “magickal” persona, even to the point of showmanship and being willing to con people - see for example William Seabrook’s eye witness account of a dinner at AC’s NYC apt where AC pretends to casts a spell over one of the skeptics (Leah Hirsig). The woman ends up staying after dinner and becoming his Scarlet Woman, which greatly impresses Seabrook. But the truth is that AC and Hirsig had already become lovers prior to this dinner and the whole spectacle was intended to impress the wealthy New Yorkers of his alleged magickal powers.
Thanks for the tips.
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@Jim Eshelman said
"A ritual that allows for emotional completeness will likely be more effective."
Thanks for that insightful point. Would a ritual for emotional completeness involve invoking the Sun or invoking the element of water in the LBRP?