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What meaneth this, o prophet? AHA!

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    oldfriend56
    replied to oldfriend56 on Nov 2, 2011, 6:01 PM last edited by
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    @Aegis said

    "Thanks for you comments.

    It's the idea that I should be kept in the dark and continue in the dark that I constantly resist. No old Aeon formula for me. Thanks. If so, I would be happy in my sufferings. As it is, that's some bullshit."

    what do you mean 'in the dark'? the nature of the self, some part of it will always be in the dark to ourselves and others.

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    Bereshith
    replied to oldfriend56 on Nov 2, 2011, 6:16 PM last edited by
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    I meant in the experiences.

    For example, last time, some assured others that I was "comatose" (not able to comprehend what was going on), yet one was speaking on behalf of petroleum and it's "language." I think this is enabled because of some past "agreement" or something similar that I was coerced into during a more hellish experience. At times, some express surprise that I can hear them "talking."

    I no longer want to keep this agreement, nor my silence about it. If you're only as sick as your secrets, there's a big one.

    I am awake. I can hear them. And most times I can make out what they're talking about.

    Their whole world is money, and my services are stolen from me without compensation. If I were using an Old Aeon formula, I would simply suffer in silence. As it is, I hold them to their own passion, money, and that for which they use me, my judgment.

    And I say, "You haven't kept your end of the deal, and by the rules of your own money game, you owe me. Your services are cut off, and all impartial judgments are suspended until you follow your own rules and payment is made."

    But that's *just *crazy talk...

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    Jim Eshelman
    replied to oldfriend56 on Nov 2, 2011, 7:01 PM last edited by
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    @ldfriend56 said

    "a one Robert Allen came at me in another thread, claiming as his inspiration a 'feisty mood'. He's fun. I'm hoping Jim will engage a bit."

    That would be a serious waste of my time.

    Av more or less gave the answer I would have given. (More or less.)

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    Bereshith
    replied to oldfriend56 on Nov 2, 2011, 7:24 PM last edited by
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    Me: I love you.

    It: I'm fine. I hate you. I love you. I want ice cream. Come here. Go away. Oranges?


    Me: I'm fine. I hate you. I love you. I want ice cream. Come here. Go away. Oranges?

    It: Boohoo. You hate me.


    Experiment: Successful.
    Outcome: Hated.

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    oldfriend56
    replied to oldfriend56 on Nov 2, 2011, 8:14 PM last edited by
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    @Aegis said

    "Me: I love you.

    It: I'm fine. I hate you. I love you. I want ice cream. Come here. Go away. Oranges?


    Me: I'm fine. I hate you. I love you. I want ice cream. Come here. Go away. Oranges?

    It: Boohoo. You hate me.


    Experiment: Successful.
    Outcome: Hated."

    dont be so attached to the outcome!

    other than that, it's very hard for me to discern what your referring to because I cannot tell the context of your writing. not even sure I know what you mean by 'it'. I can only tell you what to look out for, i hope it helps. the ordeals can be very challenging. success is your proof.

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    oldfriend56
    replied to oldfriend56 on Nov 2, 2011, 8:14 PM last edited by
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    @Jim Eshelman said

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    @ldfriend56 said
    "a one Robert Allen came at me in another thread, claiming as his inspiration a 'feisty mood'. He's fun. I'm hoping Jim will engage a bit."

    That would be a serious waste of my time.

    Av more or less gave the answer I would have given. (More or less.)"

    Nice for you to come by and I hope reading is not a waste of your good time!

    thanks Jim! (old friend)

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    Bereshith
    replied to oldfriend56 on Nov 3, 2011, 4:24 PM last edited by
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    Continuing on with myself...

    If I've now broken whatever "deal" I had with myself that allowed me to provide a rational story for my experiences, I now have to re-question those experiences.

    Seems like a transitory mental state - suprarational - in which I choose to see others around me as star beings. It follows (rationally - in error), that whatever they are discussing must be of grand importance (thought it's not). I cannot understand this supposed grand importance, so I project a rational, organizing story on their discussions that leaves me feeling left out, since I cannot both be in that suprarational state of mind AND expect a rational, Assiatic explanation of the experience. Something like that...

    So, next time this occurs, I should instead... reject a rational explanation of the experience and simply attempt to enjoy the fact that I am surrounded by extraordinary (ordinary) beings without turning my need for a rational explanation into a storyline that involves me being left out of the grand conversation.

    Sitting with the Buddhists is good for me. I still have to force myself to go. My mind wanders during the more dogmatic bits. But the talks are reminders that I need, and the sitting is good. I doubt I could sit still the whole time if there weren't others around me. Want to turn over a new leaf.

    I didn't come all this way to stall out here. Let's get it done.

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    oldfriend56
    replied to oldfriend56 on Nov 3, 2011, 8:01 PM last edited by
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    @Aegis said

    " I doubt I could sit still the whole time if there weren't others around me."

    ...and thus the great secret of the illuminati is revealed 😉

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    Bereshith
    replied to oldfriend56 on Nov 4, 2011, 1:52 PM last edited by
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    Thanks for coming around.

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    Bereshith
    replied to oldfriend56 on Nov 5, 2011, 10:30 AM last edited by
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    Greater success under the new rules.

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