The Four Worlds
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@Zalthos said
"On that note, would you perhaps have any suggestions as to where I can find a wider array of asana postures?"
Almost any posture will do. A basic sitting, basic lying, basic kneeling, basic standing etc. position are about all you need. But you can pick any ol' yoga picture book from the physical fitness section and find hundreds of positions. (Or the Kama Sutra.)
"Its surprising to me that no one in that whole thread asked why you didn't address the Aeon of Ma'at."
Why? We're hundreds to thousands of years from it. I doubt that anyone, even a Magus, has more than a vague, theoretical impression of what comes next. It's a non-entity of no practical importance, so no need to mention it.
"I also would of loved to see what you would have called the Aeon of Ma'at in the context of the Aeon of the Mother, the Aeon of the Father, and the Aeon of the Child."
Ask me again after the Aeon dawns. It's two easy to draw superficial conclusions (VERY easy), and these may not be accurate or relevant. Furthermore, we have no way at present of confirming whether they're relevant or not!
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
@Jim Eshelman said
"Almost any posture will do. A basic sitting, basic lying, basic kneeling, basic standing etc. position are about all you need. But you can pick any ol' yoga picture book from the physical fitness section and find hundreds of positions. (Or the Kama Sutra.)"
There's a lot of crappy yoga books out there, whose legitimacy I can't be sure of, but since almost any posture will do, I suppose it doesn't really matter where the authors of the books get their poses. Thanks.
@Jim Eshelman said
"Why? We're hundreds to thousands of years from it. I doubt that anyone, even a Magus, has more than a vague, theoretical impression of what comes next. It's a non-entity of no practical importance, so no need to mention it. ... It's two easy to draw superficial conclusions (VERY easy), and these may not be accurate or relevant. Furthermore, we have no way at present of confirming whether they're relevant or not!"
As I alluded to in my previous post, I'd figured this was the reasoning behind it. I don't feel like leaving it out did anything to take away from the article from a practical standpoint, and I was merely curious about it. Certainly seems more productive to address the matters at hand rather than theorize about what has yet to come.
Love is the law, love under will.
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
So, my copy of 777 is an old Weiser from 1973, although I do also refer to tables in the appendixes of my big blue Liber ABA. I have some questions about some of the columns as well as some curiosities about your 776 1/2.
Columns 99 and 100 are the Archangels of Assiah and the Angels of Assiah respectively. As I have been seeing Archangels as dwelling in Briah and the Choirs as Yetzirah, I have taken this at face value as saying "the Briah of Assiah" and "the Yetzirah of Assiah." I won't waste any time with the conclusions I've come to from reading it this way, as I'd like to know if you agree with the line of logic thus far established.
Does 776 1/2 elaborate on any of the aforementioned columns? My Latin is still in an elementary state and I can make out neither column 92, "The Angelic Functions in the World of Yetzirah," nor column 94, which translates the Heavens of Assiah from the Hebrew in the column before it, nor the translation of the Palaces of Briah, etc. Does 776 1/2 explain what's being said here, and does it have anything to add in understanding all the columns related to the worlds? There are a great many.
As a side note, I'm wondering if anyone has to read the four worlds in any sense of Ain as Atzulith, Ain Soph as Briah, Ain Soph Aur as Yetzirah, and Kether as Assiah; this possibility occurred to me shortly before making this post.
Love is the law, love under will.
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@Zalthos said
"So, my copy of 777 is an old Weiser from 1973, although I do also refer to tables in the appendixes of my big blue Liber ABA. I have some questions about some of the columns as well as some curiosities about your 776 1/2.
Columns 99 and 100 are the Archangels of Assiah and the Angels of Assiah respectively. As I have been seeing Archangels as dwelling in Briah and the Choirs as Yetzirah, I have taken this at face value as saying "the Briah of Assiah" and "the Yetzirah of Assiah.""
I think the best way to look at those column heads is "Archangels and Angels - as seen and worked with by a magician operating in Assiah." This is in contrast to a series of later tables that give Divine Names, Archangels, Angels, and Palaces "in Briah," i.e., "for a magician operating in Briah."
Besides that: This is only somebody's label. Don't let labels hang you up. Yes, Archangels are Briatic and Angels are Yetziratic.
"Does 776 1/2 elaborate on any of the aforementioned columns?"
By "aforementioned columns," you mean 99 and 100? (These are the only one's you've mentioned so far.) Those columns only give Archangels and Angels for the sephiroth. I give the information for all 32 Paths in one place, so my Col 303 gives the names of Archangels of sephiroth and the 22 Paths, and 304 the transliteration of their names. Col. 401 gives the names of the Angelic Choirs of the asephiroth, 402 the English alphabet transliteration of those names, and 403 the English translation.
"My Latin is still in an elementary state and I can make out neither column 92, "The Angelic Functions in the World of Yetzirah," nor column 94, which translates the Heavens of Assiah from the Hebrew in the column before it, nor the translation of the Palaces of Briah, etc. Does 776 1/2 explain what's being said here, and does it have anything to add in understanding all the columns related to the worlds? There are a great many."
All information that is World-specific in 776 1/2 is organized specifically according to the Worlds - that's a basic part of the architecture of the book.
Col. 92: I ignored completely. No value in practical magick (the goal of 776 1/2 is practical magick, not philosophical rosetta stone).
Cols. 93-94: Yes, these are my Cols. 505-507 in the "World of Assiah" section. There is additional information (about one large page) in the Notes section.
"As a side note, I'm wondering if anyone has to read the four worlds in any sense of Ain as Atzulith, Ain Soph as Briah, Ain Soph Aur as Yetzirah, and Kether as Assiah; this possibility occurred to me shortly before making this post."
Since the entire Tree exists in all four Worlds, "Kether in Assiah" has meaning. But the Three Veils aren't part of the Tree. I would argue that they don't exist in any of the worlds.
Love is the law, love under will."
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
Well, fuck yea!
I thought 776 1/2 sounded good from your description in the publications section, but it sounds like an even worthier purchase after reading the above post.While I ultimately aim to learn Latin and study the Denudata, I'd first like to flesh out my understanding via Crowley as much as possible, and your book certainly seems to do just that. I will also be researching the texts you mention under Tree of Life in the Introduction of Mystical and Magical System.
One text outside Crowley I've never seen mentioned, but I believe the author indexed Llewellyn's Golden Dawn, is "Godwin's Cabalistic Encyclopedia." Have you read it? From what I've gathered from previews, it seems like a quality reference.
Love is the law, love under will.
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Godwin's is excellent.
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
I'm still less than 70 pages into Mystical Qabalah; this book is written in a very Down-to-Earth way, and I am delighted to see Crowley's 777 become a focal point so early in the work. Upon finishing the chapter entitled The Ten Sephiroth in the Four Worlds, I saw more clearly how the Formula of Tetragrammaton fleshes out in practice and what a practical tool your 776 1/2 must make, especially with regards to pronunciation and transliteration.
And then I looked online today and saw it on sale! Couldn't say no to that. I've placed my order for a brand new copy, and I look forward to the day it arrives. Meanwhile, I have Dion Fortune's wonderful read.
I've still been mulling over the Aeons, Tetragrammaton, and the Four Worlds. I've run into a bit of trouble in lining some of these up, and I'm wondering if you'll have anything you'd like to add.
I feel I can safely say I've reached a point where Tetragrammaton is essentially a synonym for the Four Worlds; I have no problems lining these up together, even at the addition of the Elements.
However, I feel like I'm running into issues with my present understanding of the Order of the Aeons.
I've always understood the order to have been Isis first, then Osiris, then Horus with Ma'at ending. I don't expect any disagreement there. Again, traditionally, I have meditated on the correspondences this specific Order of the Aeons has to Tetragrammaton as being regressive from the Final Daughter, as starting with he final and proceeding with vau, he, and yod in succession.
But it is here that I find I am running into trouble, as the symbols don't seem to line up as I would like. With this setup, Isis is the Final Daughter, Osiris is the Son, Horus is the Mother, and Ma'at is the Father. In this context, the order seems as though it should initiate with Ma'at and end in Osiris to be cognate. Admittingly, my basis for this arrangement is rather superficial, but I'd still prefer to share it.
Love is the law, love under will.
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
@Jim Eshelman said
"There's a numerical key to this. "The Secret Name of the World of Yetzirah" [longer story...] is MH = 45; and Adam (ADM, "humanity") = 45."
I want to say I came across something about the "Secret Names" of the Four Worlds in my copy of Llewellyn's Golden Dawn, but I can't be sure of that at the moment. I do recall the Liber Samekh commentary going over the same 45's as you, being MH and ADM. Moses being the one who received the divine name of Kether in Atzulith, I've been tempted to burn a bush or two myself.
This does bring some significant sophistications to the A.'.A.'. system's middle pillar arrangement, in the transition from Yesod in Yetzirah to Tiphareth in Briah, specifically in light of Tiphareth being the only Sephiroth of the Ruach possessing a direct line to Kether's influence.
I've also been wondering what role the practices of H.H.H. and Energized Enthusiasm have in traversing the worlds in this way, and if they have any overlap in method or results pertaining to the K&C of the HGA,
Love is the law, love under will.
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@Zalthos said
"I've also been wondering what role the practices of H.H.H. and Energized Enthusiasm have in traversing the worlds in this way, and if they have any overlap in method or results pertaining to the K&C of the HGA,"
HHH is part of the work of the Zelator 2=9, and therefore a practice within Yetirah. Having opened oneself to Yetzirah, this is one of the practices that strengthens one's mobility etc.
Energized Enthusiasm is given to the Neophyte 1=10, and in that regard is part of the volatilizing of the fixed which is inherent in the 1=10 work. (2=9 is then the fixing of the volatile.)
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@Zalthos said
"I've also been wondering what role the practices of H.H.H. and Energized Enthusiasm have in traversing the worlds in this way, and if they have any overlap in method or results pertaining to the K&C of the HGA,"
All of the practices of the G.'.D.'. of the A.'.A.'. are designed to bring you to K&C of your HGA. Is there a more specific question?