Quick question, mainly for Jim.
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Could Choronzon be considered a personification of the Throat Chakra? Or perhaps the raw power of such, the Will to Speech, to break the Silence? Doubly so, the obstacle that needs to be overcome to speak from a place of Love and not fear, being that Babalon banishes him.
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@Diluvium said
"Could Choronzon be considered a personification of the Throat Chakra?"
No.
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@Diluvium said
"Could Choronzon be considered a personification of the Throat Chakra? Or perhaps the raw power of such, the Will to Speech, to break the Silence? Doubly so, the obstacle that needs to be overcome to speak from a place of Love and not fear, being that Babalon banishes him.
With your extensive experience of the Aethyrs, what is his use?"No, that's mixing the planes.
Now, if you are asking whether the Throat chakra and Choronzon are related to the same sets of phenomena, then I'd say yes. But that's not what you're asking.
The Visuddha chakra, when closed, is best seen as corresponding toe Da'ath as apex of the intellect, "knowledge" taken to its extreme. But when opened, it fulfills its correspondence to Daleth. Our tendency to become ensnared by Choronzon is related to a closed Visuddha, over which the name BABALON (Venus, Daleth) is victorious.
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Thank you very much!
93's, to both of you.
I'll work on not mixing the plains, and formulating clearer questions.
The help is much appreciated.
(I should probably work on my Vishuddha too, for good measure. Mixing the planes seems to be a symptom of one gone haywire.) -
@Diluvium said
" Mixing the planes seems to be a symptom of one gone haywire.)"
I respectfully disagree.
It only means we are learning.
It takes certain insight to ask good questions, IMO, so...
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Yeah, I would guess that "things going haywire" was more likely a symptom of mixing the planes.
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@Avshalom Binyamin said
"Yeah, I would guess that "things going haywire" was more likely a symptom of mixing the planes."
Indeed, it was. I did a lot of damage to myself because of this folly.
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How can you even know what it means until after you do it?
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@Diluvium said
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Indeed, it was. I did a lot of damage to myself because of this folly.
"Really?
Such as? -
@Bereshith said
"How can you even know what it means until after you do it?"
@Frater INRI said
"Really?
Such as?"I can't know, and that's the thing. It's being okay with that. I'm finally learning the difference between experience gleaned from books, and experience. I'm in the stage between student and Probationer, I sign the Oath soon, so I've spent the past year or so in study, building knowledge. Before fully committing to Thelema, I had to be sure it was where I needed to be, having read about so many other systems. So, in this year, I ruthlessly went through paradigm to paradigm, acting as if true, and seeing what I got. This looseness served to erase any conditioning I had before the process, which as of this morning seemed destructive to me, but as the day went on, I realized that this has left me with a blank canvas that I can now, finally, learn to paint.
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@Diluvium said
"I can't know, and that's the thing. It's being okay with that. I'm finally learning the difference between experience gleaned from books, and experience."
Pardon me if I am wrong, but did you mean to say the difference between knowledge from books and knowledge from experience?
If not, you may want to ponder that.
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@Diluvium said
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I can't know, and that's the thing. It's being okay with that. I'm finally learning the difference between experience gleaned from books, and experience. I'm in the stage between student and Probationer, I sign the Oath soon, so I've spent the past year or so in study, building knowledge. Before fully committing to Thelema, I had to be sure it was where I needed to be, having read about so many other systems. So, in this year, I ruthlessly went through paradigm to paradigm, acting as if true, and seeing what I got. This looseness served to erase any conditioning I had before the process, which as of this morning seemed destructive to me, but as the day went on, I realized that this has left me with a blank canvas that I can now, finally, learn to paint."I see.
Thanks for sharing.You will be just fine, I am sure.