A fortune of money....

Barrackubus

Abremelin said..... In another place Abraham says, that once only in your life you may ask your Guardian Angel for a large sum of money sufficient to represent a fortune; and that he himself had done so and obtained his request.

Has anyone done this? If so how is it accomplished??

Anonymous

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

Now that's interesting...

Love is the law, love under will.

Barrackubus

How could I not take it literally?
What other interpretation could be derived at?
I believe the mage, specifically when the Master Therion used the same system from Abramelin.
Why wouldn't our angel do something like that for us? And respectfully in that I must take it in strong belief that it is true, given everything else taught and read is equally valid.....

Barrackubus

It must be.....
There is a way to everything magickally if it is at all possible in the universe, and given the terms of the relationship between us and the angel, why would he not give to us.....

'I give you the power to gain wealth' was told to Moses in the bible, and I am talking from a kabbalistic point of view, especially if the view on the bible is still.considered a grimoire for such, abramelin certainly did...our angel, does so much for us, we know he does and can see his work, and that faith supercedes any logic that would argue against it so i see no reason as to why it is not possible.
Certainly it has to go to.a more modern approach versus putting your hand in your purse and finding coinage or what is needed.
If we are truely divine and can create we may be able to.create this for ourselves...
It isnt like the fortune would.be squandered....
It would be placed in good hands....
Why do we have to continue struggling....
Gods, do.they struggle???
generosity would be paramount....
I would bless, bless, bless others....
I would be god....
Just some thoughts...

mark0987

93,

My personal opinion on the matter is, no matter what the situation in money magick you always have to earn it. You want money, compose a ritual......Your Holy Guardian Angel is not there to make you rich.

Whenever I am not in desperate need (and when I say desperate we are talking on the verge of becoming homeless) I sometimes do money magick and I get £5-£10 but it manifests as an opportunity to EARN it. When I am desperate which has happened once I did a ritual and my desperation added that little bit of energy needed which manifested as another family member winning a raffle and sharing the money between the family...I got £700 enough to get me out of trouble.

The point is that in my opinion unless the chances of you attaining your true will are threatened there is no need for your angel to intervene and certainly no need for them to be asked.

Crowley performed quite a lot of sex magick operations for money according to his diaries.......he got very little. My point is that Crowley who had completed the Abramelin operation ended up having hardly any money towards the end of his life, not even enough to publish books and he often relied on money he got for teaching others. Why didn't he ask his HGA for money? Because he knew that the universe does not work like a cash point.

93/93

Barrackubus

I was not reccomending that the HGA or the universe is there to make us rich, but it could make us that way, and I can understand the neccessity part of the ritual, but as far as working for it, who made that a rule?? I'm not saying it shouldn't be, i'm just wondering and at the sametime disbelieving that it has to be worked for......

93

Corvinae

Did you know that you can catch a bird by sprinkling salt on its tailfeathers?

When I was a little girl my grandma told me and my brother that.
We promtly took the salt shaker out into the yard to test it out. He didnt have the apptitude to endure, but I got myself a bird.

One day I had my little ones downtown in the park. The pidgeons were everywhere. My son wanted one in the worst way, and I recalled what my gramma had said. I told them the adage, and I could see the wheels turning. He took his sandwhich, laid down for about half an hour on the ground with his sandwhich, and sure enough got his bird.

I have heard this adage about the HGA and the fortune myself, in a different form.
In the form I had heard, you can ask for the fortune as many times as you would like ( actually the story didnt say you could only ask once, it said it could only be granted once).

The issue that comes to mind though is that until a person completely is in acceptance that the universe is an abundant, friendly environment ( as compared to the view of a limited, unfriendly place) and that acceptance is demonstrated by that persons accordanceto that view (being in alignment, or resonating at that frequency ) any store of energy (ie fortune). Is quickly consumed and not replenishable.

Fact: poor people who win the lottery, do not on the whole use the wealth to permanetly change their economics.

The message seems to be, that once you have permantely shifted your world view from one of lack to one of prosperity, Abundance will come and stay. So you would only need to ask once, once you got to that point.

It would also seem though, that once a human being got to that point of acceptance and abundances, prosperity and general friendlyness of the "universe", that person would not have any desrire, or will, or need to ask.

Corvinae