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The Secret Name of Nuit?

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    "Now, therefore, I am known to ye by my name Nuit, and to him by a secret name which I will give him when at last he knoweth me."

    I was reading Liber Aleph and I came across Crowley referring to "Olun" as the "secret Name of my Lady", which he declares adds to 156, which is also BABALON. Then he goes on to say "I wrote down Her Earth-ame in Greek, MAPIE", which he says equates to the Phoenician name whôlon, "which by Interpretation is That which is Infinite, and Space; so that all is consonant with Nuit Our Lady of the Stars."

    Could Olun be Nuit's secret name?

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    Takamba
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    Babalon is the "secret name," (not known by Crowley at the time of receiving Liber AL). The OLUN is Crowley recognizing the connection between Marie Lavrova Röhling (Soror Olun) and the office of Scarlet Woman at the time of writing Liber Aleph

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    Don't forget: "Since I am Infinite Space, and the Infinite Stars thereof"

    Infinite Space, and the Infinite Stars thereof."

    ISIS

    Also, "is" and "is" -- existence itself. [manifested existence and all possibility]

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    @Takamba said

    "Babalon is the "secret name," (not known by Crowley at the time of receiving Liber AL). The OLUN is Crowley recognizing the connection between Marie Lavrova Röhling (Soror Olun) and the office of Scarlet Woman at the time of writing Liber Aleph"

    Thanks for clearing that up 😄

    @Los said

    "Don't forget: "Since I am Infinite Space, and the Infinite Stars thereof"

    Infinite Space, and the Infinite Stars thereof."

    ISIS

    Also, "is" and "is" -- existence itself. [manifested existence and all possibility]"

    Ohohhhh....well, that's interesting.

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    Q789
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    Excellent- didn't notice that

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    Uni_Verse
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    @Takamba said

    "Babalon is the "secret name," (not known by Crowley at the time of receiving Liber AL). The OLUN is Crowley recognizing the connection between Marie Lavrova Röhling (Soror Olun) and the office of Scarlet Woman at the time of writing Liber Aleph"

    Whaaa...
    At first, struck me as being stupidly obvious.
    Ruminating, I thought:
    Babalon is Nuit on a lower arch -
    A "secret name" in my mind is connotative of something deeper, more intimate.

    Then again, "lower arch," highest one could comprehend ?

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    Isis is true, but the "Secret Name" that Crowley talks about being "discovered" later is Babalon, as far as being "Lower" - huh? I mean typically Babalon represents the earthly vessel, avatar, of Nuit, I guess - if that's what you mean by "lower."

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    @Takamba said

    "Isis is true, but the "Secret Name" that Crowley talks about being "discovered" later is Babalon, as far as being "Lower" - huh? I mean typically Babalon represents the earthly vessel, avatar, of Nuit, I guess - if that's what you mean by "lower.""

    Normally, I associate Nuit with 0 - Babalon with 3, setting it "lower" on the Tree.
    Further, Nuit really is the entire Tree, no?
    When Babalon occupies only a single sphere of emanation

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    Takamba
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    Okay. Speaking on the Tree of Life "lower," yes.

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    Knowledge + Delight
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    Also of noteworthy interest, according to the ALW cypher:

    i:23 s:5 i:23 s:5

    ISIS = 56 (11)

    And:

    b:20 a:1 b:20 a:1 l:2 o:7 n:14

    BABALON = 65 (11)

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    Nice approach indeed: Infinite Space, and the Infinite Stars thereof."
    Meaning a new ISIS appearing!

    ISIS: "is" and "is" -- existence itself. [manifested existence and all possibility] = BEING

    Alson, OLUN means "TO BE" in Turkish... and BABA means "Father"

    BABA OLUN = Be Father

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