degree pendants- Ipsissmus pendant
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I s there any 'degree' pendants representing A:.A:. degrees? is there an Ipsissmus pendant? and discussing my 'siver chain' I am supposed to create, I am kinda blank- can anyone tell me what they have and what moved them for that? I would really appreciate.
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No.
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@Frater Dark Matter said
"I s there any 'degree' pendants representing A:.A:. degrees? is there an Ipsissmus pendant? and discussing my 'siver chain' I am supposed to create, I am kinda blank- can anyone tell me what they have and what moved them for that? I would really appreciate."
There are insignia for each Grade of the A.'.A.'., which are worn on the ceremonial robes, and these differ somewhat depending on which Branch of A.'.A.'. you affiliate to. Your Superior should be able to tell you which ones they use. If you are doing the work solo however then you needn't worry about it.
What silver chain are you referring to? I was not aware that this was a requirement.
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@Frater Dark Matter said
"is there an Ipsissmus pendant?"
In addition to what has been said here, there's a particular point that addresses this specific question. From One Star in Sight:
"[The Ipsissimus] is sworn to accept this Grade in the presence of a witness, and to express its nature in word and deed, but to withdraw Himself at once within the veils of his natural manifestation as a man, and to keep silence during his human life as to the fact of his attainment, even to the other members of the Order."
This rather excludes wearing a merit badge; or, at least, one that anyone else would know was a merit badge.
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"One Star in Sight*":227178d2][The Ipsissimus] is sworn to accept this Grade in the presence of a witness, and to express its nature in word and deed, but to withdraw Himself at once within the veils of his natural manifestation as a man, and to keep silence during his human life as to the fact of his attainment, even to the other members of the Order."
Notice that this sentence might explain Crowley's seemingly conflicted statements about the nature of the HGA, if one assumes that:
- Crowley was Aiwass all along
- He found that out at his Ipsissimus self-initiation (pun intended)
- Wanted to keep to the 10°=1° oath afterwards
Has anyone ever looked into when his watershed of moving his Aiwass interpretation from "preternatural entity" to "my subconscious" was? Could it have been around 1923 or so, when this last (?) initiation of his occured?
Regards
Mumbo Gumshoe Simon
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Then or a little later.
Except, I've never been convinced he changed his mind. (Germer was convinced, but that appears to have been based entirely on Magick Without Tears.) He said one thing when he wrote (for example) an instruction for a 5=6 A.'.A.'., and a different thing when he wrote primarily for rank beginners.
The clearest bookends (just going from memory) are the date of Liber Samekh (I'm at work, without my books. Can someone look at the date on Samekh's title page, please?) vs. MWT in the mid-'40s. Maybe there were shifts in between.
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@Jim Eshelman said
"Then or a little later."
That could fit then.
@Jim Eshelman said
"Except, I've never been convinced he changed his mind. (Germer was convinced, but that appears to have been based entirely on Magick Without Tears.)"
Due to the ambiguity of if he shifted his opinion at some point, I wrote "might explain" and "seemingly".
@Jim Eshelman said
"He said one thing when he wrote (for example) an instruction for a 5=6 A.'.A.'., and a different thing when he wrote primarily for rank beginners."
He might also have had didactical reasons to do it like this, though. As he was talking to people at wildly different stages of own experience.
Regards
Simon
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@Simon Iff said
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@Jim Eshelman said
"He said one thing when he wrote (for example) an instruction for a 5=6 A.'.A.'., and a different thing when he wrote primarily for rank beginners."He might also have had didactical reasons to do it like this, though. As he was talking to people at wildly different stages of own experience."
Yes, that's what I've always thought was most likely.
