Hermes, Thoth, Raziel, Mercury

Hermes

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.

Could you guys help me understand the kabbalistic correspondances and differences between these four gods? How do they relate to eachother?! Any source maybe?

I think all four(maybe except the roman Mercury?) correspond both to Hod and Chokmah.

What about the four worlds? What about paths? Their respective place in their respective pantheons?

Love is the law, love under will.

Avshalom Binyamin

Have you looked in Liber 777? All four are in the tables there.

Hermes

@Avshalom Binyamin said

"Have you looked in Liber 777? All four are in the tables there."

I have not it currently with me where i am. I'll look online. But from what i remember there are only sephiroth attributions. I'll check that. Thanks.

Anonymous

No. Sephiroth and Paths.

Hermes

I've just re-read it.

Here's what i found:

Thoth=8
Mercury=8
Raziel=2=archangel of Assiah

How should i understand "archangel of assiah"? Because "archangel" is briatic... But "2" is above the abyss. So is Chokmah of Assiah actually briatic? Is this based on the ancient G.'.D.'. map where tiphareth is in yetzirah and supernals in briah?

Or is it more in a "all is in the all and the all is in all" sense? I have both trouble understanding and phrasing what i dont understand...

Anonymous

@Frater Horus said

"How should i understand "archangel of assiah"?"

Uh... an Archangel in the World of Assiah?

"Because "archangel" is briatic... But "2" is above the abyss. So is Chokmah of Assiah actually briatic? Is this based on the ancient G.'.D.'. map where tiphareth is in yetzirah and supernals in briah?"

Wait, wait. Chokmah of Assiah is "assiatic." (Obviously.) The entire Tree exists in all Four Worlds.

Hermes

@Patrick Ossoski said

"
Uh... an Archangel in the World of Assiah?
"

p30... "Archangels of Assiah:..."...

The only way i find to understand it is "the briatic part of Assiah". Because as Hermes said "all is in the all and the all is in all"...?

And yeah i know each world has a whole tree, but thanks anyway.

Jim Eshelman

Raziel (often misspelled with a Tzaddi; but it's a Zayin) is the archangel of Chokmah, so has no relationship to Hod. The others are distinctly mercurial, and are applied here in the sense that Chokmah is often regarded (by Crowley in particular) as "the Higher Mercury."

Yes, part of their distinction arises from the distinctive pantheons (implying cultural context, mode of worship, different proportional relationships, etc. For example, Thoth has a different relationship to Horus than Hermes / Mercury has to Ares / Mars, even though there are broader similarities otherwise.

Jim Eshelman

@Frater Horus said

"How should i understand "archangel of assiah"? Because "archangel" is briatic..."

Good observation. - I wrote a large article on this subject for one of the GD Journal issues edited by the Ciceros and published by Llewellyn. How do the Archangels in Assiah compare to the Archangels in Briah? The answer appears to be that one set of attributions is for magicians working in Assiah, and the other for magicians working in Briah (awake in Briah). There are full Briatic hierarchies of different divine names, archangels, choirs of angels.

Jim Eshelman

@Patrick Ossoski said

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@Frater Horus said
"How should i understand "archangel of assiah"?"

Uh... an Archangel in the World of Assiah?"

That's how the archangel column is labeled, Patrick.

Hermes

@Jim Eshelman said

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@Frater Horus said
"How should i understand "archangel of assiah"? Because "archangel" is briatic..."

Good observation. - I wrote a large article on this subject for one of the GD Journal issues edited by the Ciceros and published by Llewellyn. How do the Archangels in Assiah compare to the Archangels in Briah? The answer appears to be that one set of attributions is for magicians working in Assiah, and the other for magicians working in Briah (awake in Briah). There are full Briatic hierarchies of different divine names, archangels, choirs of angels."

Thanks...

I'll try to find those journals and in particular the article.

Is there a Liber where there are full Briatic hierarchies like you mention?

If Raziel is "archangel of chokmah" in Assiah, does it imply he's still "of chokmah" in Yetzirah and Briah, or that for instance it would correspond to "chomatic part" of, respectively, for instance, Hod and Malkuth...?!

Any source to study Raziel in depth?

I remember Franz Bardon makes him correspond to Uranus, which he attributes to Chokmah in place of the classic "fixed stars". Could you comment this?

Jim Eshelman

@Frater Horus said

"Is there a Liber where there are full Briatic hierarchies like you mention?"

Three different columns. (And a lot of errors. I corrected them in 776 1/2.)

"If Raziel is "archangel of chokmah" in Assiah, does it imply he's still "of chokmah" in Yetzirah and Briah, or that for instance it would correspond to "chomatic part" of, respectively, for instance, Hod and Malkuth...?!"

The "archangel in Assiah" should just be read as "archangel." No need to worry about the "in Assiah." You're in Assiah. The confusions all clear up when you ignore those words <g>.

"Any source to study Raziel in depth?"

Not good ones. Probably the best is the article in Gustav Davidson's excellent Dictionary of Angels.

"I remember Franz Bardon makes him correspond to Uranus, which he attributes to Chokmah in place of the classic "fixed stars". Could you comment this?"

It's sometimes used as a modern attribution.