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  • B bethata418

    THELEMA

    anyone know what these common used thelemic words mean????

    1.ASAR
    2.APEP
    3.ISA
    4.HOOR (as in liber AL chapter1/49.... is it female? babalon?)
    5.BAHLASTI
    6.OMPEHDA
    7.COPH NIA

    thanks for any help that can be offered

    AGAPE

    Fr.418

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    zeph
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    Ptah?

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    • B bethata418

      THELEMA

      anyone know what these common used thelemic words mean????

      1.ASAR
      2.APEP
      3.ISA
      4.HOOR (as in liber AL chapter1/49.... is it female? babalon?)
      5.BAHLASTI
      6.OMPEHDA
      7.COPH NIA

      thanks for any help that can be offered

      AGAPE

      Fr.418

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      bethata418
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      other words i was wondering about are:

      1. FINIS
        2.KHEM
        3AMENNTI
        4.KITHARION (OTHER THAN A MOUNTIAN)
        5.FALUTLI
        6.OAI (DIFFERENT THAN IAO??)
        7.FIAT (26& LATIN 4 ELEMENTS)

      thanks for all the help

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      • B bethata418

        THELEMA

        anyone know what these common used thelemic words mean????

        1.ASAR
        2.APEP
        3.ISA
        4.HOOR (as in liber AL chapter1/49.... is it female? babalon?)
        5.BAHLASTI
        6.OMPEHDA
        7.COPH NIA

        thanks for any help that can be offered

        AGAPE

        Fr.418

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        Jim Eshelman
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        @bethata418 said

        "FINIS"

        Latin: End.

        "KHEM"

        Egypt. Also, during Crowley's primary learning period, Egyptologists thought Khem was the name of a god now known to be Min, so he often refers to "the god Khem."

        "AMENNTI"

        Egyptian underworld.

        "KITHARION (OTHER THAN A MOUNTIAN)"

        What context?

        "FALUTLI"

        You'll only find this a couple of places. No literal translation given, except in context in Vision & the Voice and Liber VII (IIRC). By at least one manner of counting, it enumerates to 156.

        "OAI (DIFFERENT THAN IAO??)"

        Sure, it's IAO backwards 😄

        "FIAT (26& LATIN 4 ELEMENTS)"

        Latin for "Let there be." For example, Fiat Lux = "Let there be light."

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        • B bethata418

          THELEMA

          anyone know what these common used thelemic words mean????

          1.ASAR
          2.APEP
          3.ISA
          4.HOOR (as in liber AL chapter1/49.... is it female? babalon?)
          5.BAHLASTI
          6.OMPEHDA
          7.COPH NIA

          thanks for any help that can be offered

          AGAPE

          Fr.418

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          bethata418
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          KITHARION i found it in the vision and the voice aethry 12:

          And this is the comedy of Pan, that is played at night in the thick forest. And this is the mystery of Dionysus Zagreus, that is celebrated upon the holy mountain of Kithairon. And this is the secret of the brothers of the Rosy Cross; and this is the heart of the ritual that is accomplished in the Vault of the Adepts that is hidden in the Mountain of the Caverns, even the Holy Mountain Abiegnus

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          • B bethata418

            THELEMA

            anyone know what these common used thelemic words mean????

            1.ASAR
            2.APEP
            3.ISA
            4.HOOR (as in liber AL chapter1/49.... is it female? babalon?)
            5.BAHLASTI
            6.OMPEHDA
            7.COPH NIA

            thanks for any help that can be offered

            AGAPE

            Fr.418

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            Jim Eshelman
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            I was confused that you said other than the reference to the mountain by that name.

            Perhaps you were, instead, asking for information about that particular mountain. It's one of the most common locations for events in Greek myths, second only to Olympus. From a Google search, here are some links:

            Wikipedia entry (in German - no entry exists in the English Wikipedia - but you can translate that easily enough with your browser): de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kithairon

            Discussion of moutain as being, itself, a god (mountain spirit &c.) - various myths relating to Zeus and the mountain.
            www.theoi.com/Georgikos/OrosKithairon.html

            Myth of Aktaion and how he was disclosed as the "stag" he really was - one of the most important of Artemis' myths. Several other myths involving the same mountain.
            www.greecetravel.com/greekmyths/thebes2.htm

            Relevance of the mountain to the Oedipus story (and thus to our old "friend" Thebes):
            www.bookrags.com/notes/oed/OBJ.htm

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            • B bethata418

              THELEMA

              anyone know what these common used thelemic words mean????

              1.ASAR
              2.APEP
              3.ISA
              4.HOOR (as in liber AL chapter1/49.... is it female? babalon?)
              5.BAHLASTI
              6.OMPEHDA
              7.COPH NIA

              thanks for any help that can be offered

              AGAPE

              Fr.418

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              bethata418
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              cool thanks for the info.

              would it be safe to say mount KITHARION=Mountain Abiegnus???

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              • B bethata418

                THELEMA

                anyone know what these common used thelemic words mean????

                1.ASAR
                2.APEP
                3.ISA
                4.HOOR (as in liber AL chapter1/49.... is it female? babalon?)
                5.BAHLASTI
                6.OMPEHDA
                7.COPH NIA

                thanks for any help that can be offered

                AGAPE

                Fr.418

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                bethata418
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                THELEMA

                another word i need help with is TRINC.

                not much have i seen on it, only in heart of master & liber aleph.

                AGAPE

                FR.418

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                • B bethata418

                  THELEMA

                  anyone know what these common used thelemic words mean????

                  1.ASAR
                  2.APEP
                  3.ISA
                  4.HOOR (as in liber AL chapter1/49.... is it female? babalon?)
                  5.BAHLASTI
                  6.OMPEHDA
                  7.COPH NIA

                  thanks for any help that can be offered

                  AGAPE

                  Fr.418

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                  Jim Eshelman
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                  @bethata418 said

                  "another word i need help with is TRINC."

                  You have to read Gargantua y Pantagruel by Rabelais to get this - especially the part of Chapter 5 called "How Bacbuc explained the word of the Goddess-Bottle." There isn't a straight-out definition. It's a "mystery word" in the context of a story. The following "TRINC links" might help:

                  ublic-library.net/eBooks/Adelaide/r/r11g/part267.html
                  www.gutenberg.org/etext/1200

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                  • B bethata418

                    THELEMA

                    anyone know what these common used thelemic words mean????

                    1.ASAR
                    2.APEP
                    3.ISA
                    4.HOOR (as in liber AL chapter1/49.... is it female? babalon?)
                    5.BAHLASTI
                    6.OMPEHDA
                    7.COPH NIA

                    thanks for any help that can be offered

                    AGAPE

                    Fr.418

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                    Gideon Jagged
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                    I read somewhere that "TRINC" uttered by the bottle itself is the bottle's attempt to say "DRINK". It comes out "TRINC" because it's being said by a glass bottle!

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                    • B bethata418

                      THELEMA

                      anyone know what these common used thelemic words mean????

                      1.ASAR
                      2.APEP
                      3.ISA
                      4.HOOR (as in liber AL chapter1/49.... is it female? babalon?)
                      5.BAHLASTI
                      6.OMPEHDA
                      7.COPH NIA

                      thanks for any help that can be offered

                      AGAPE

                      Fr.418

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                      bethata418
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                      thanks for the info jim, and tarot.... so from reading that i take it trink means your are what you eat, but the poem says trinc is the lust for sex.
                      am i lost???

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                      • B bethata418

                        THELEMA

                        anyone know what these common used thelemic words mean????

                        1.ASAR
                        2.APEP
                        3.ISA
                        4.HOOR (as in liber AL chapter1/49.... is it female? babalon?)
                        5.BAHLASTI
                        6.OMPEHDA
                        7.COPH NIA

                        thanks for any help that can be offered

                        AGAPE

                        Fr.418

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                        Jim Eshelman
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                        @ar said

                        "I read somewhere that "TRINC" uttered by the bottle itself is the bottle's attempt to say "DRINK". It comes out "TRINC" because it's being said by a glass bottle!"

                        Thyat would make a whole lotta sense except for the small detail that the original was written in French. 😄

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