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I was reading Perdurabo today and noticed that from a lot of promising Students and Probationers Crowley only raised eight to Neophyte. However, it never gives a list.
I know of Estai,Alostrael,Achad,Omnia Vincam,Omnia Pro Veritate, Progradior,Genesthai
Is anyone else missing or only these eight persons achieved Neophyte under Crowley's tutelage?
Also, apart from Germer, who else was acknowledged by Crowley as a 5=6?
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@Mysteria said
"I was reading Perdurabo today and noticed that from a lot of promising Students and Probationers Crowley only raised eight to Neophyte. However, it never gives a list."
What is the passage that says this? I do recall a passage where IIRC he indicated that only about one in eight - that is, only about 12-13% - of the Probationers were reaching Neophyte at one particular point in time.
I'd have to do a lot of digging through my notes - I once had a longer list that I deleted and may have some scraps around. Just off the top of my head, I notice that you haven't included Kenneth Grant in the list, but he did make it to Neophyte. There were others.
There were also at least a couple that he raised past this without raising to Neophyte. Germer was received as a 5=6, then later as an 8=3. Virikam, at order of one of the Secret Chiefs, was given 4=7.
"Also, apart from Germer, who else was acknowledged by Crowley as a 5=6?"
Off the top of my head, there were quite a few acknowledged to higher grades, thus implicitly to 5=6. (The grades are inclusive.) Of those you already mentioned, one must include Achad and Alostrael. Frank Bennett was raised, grade by grade, to 5=6, then later acknowledged as a 6=5. Windram was also 5=6 then 6=5. Of course, Cecil Jones was 7=4 and higher from the time of the establishment of the Order. Martha Kuntzel was recognized as 8=3. There was a Fra. I.A. 5=6 that I've never been able to identify who both in the late Equinox Vol. I era and near the end of Crowley's life lent imprimatur to some official documents - it couldn't be Allen Bennett (Iehi Aur) because he was dead before the second occasion.
Fuller's 5=6 was purely honorary so that he could serve as Cancellarius. In actual attainment he didn't get past his probation.
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"What is the passage that says this?"
Perdurabo. Pg 171. Second to last paragraph (the one about James Windram)
Alostrael and Achad made sudden jumps to 8=3, right?
Cecil Jones became an Adeptus Minor through the Golden Dawn but i guess it counts
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@Mysteria said
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"What is the passage that says this?"Perdurabo. Pg 171. Second to last paragraph (the one about James Windram)"
Is "Perdurabo" the name of a book? (I don't understand this reference.)
"Alostrael and Achad made sudden jumps to 8=3, right?"
Yes. But the grades are inclusive.
I think I didn't understand what you were really getting at with your question, so I answered more broadly.
"Cecil Jones became an Adeptus Minor through the Golden Dawn but i guess it counts
"What counts is that he actually held the grade.
"Do you have info about hpw Windram and Kuntzel got there?"
Kuntzel was an 8=3 of a Rosicrucian group Crowley met in Germany, with which he formed an alliance, and he recognized her grade. Windram worked up through the system - much of his story is told in Confessions.
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Yes, Perdurabo is a book. www.amazon.com/gp/product/1561841706/002-1749070-2490436?v=glance&n=283155
My question was directed towards people who achieved A:.A:. under Crowley's tutelage.Still, the info you gave is very interesting. Thanks
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Yes, everyone I mentioned attained to 5=6 A.'.A.'. or higher directly under Crowley, except for his own teacher and the Order's co-founder, who I threw in just cuz.