Gematria, Hebrew=Greek
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93 All,
Are these two systems interchangable? The greek and hebrew Qabalah I mean. Like say if I have a Greek word with a gematria of 280, does that correspond to the hebrew attributations for that number as well?
But then I think to myself, Number is universal, there are no language boundries with it. And I think I just answered my own question. But I'll throw it out there anyway, allways a chance I'm wrong.
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But then again, the hebrew and greek alphabets don't have all the same sounds, therefore have some different and non-equivocal letters, which must have different values.
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As far as I know, you have indeed answered your own question.
Of course, there will always be some ill-learnt pedants to reply that there are "several systems" of qabalah, hebrew, arabic, aramean, greek, latin, and so on, but it takes just a careful study of 777 and a little practice to see that they are one, and even that, when they seem to differ, they complete one another.
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"But then again, the hebrew and greek alphabets don't have all the same sounds, therefore have some different and non-equivocal letters, which must have different values."
And this was my issue with it. But number is the common ground in each system, so, I think, as long as you don't try to translitterate the word and stay true to its own respective system then the nubmer itself holds its meaning in all systems.
but I've also seen words translitterated that made perfect sence. I guess you just have to be selective.
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@phoinix93 said
"Are these two systems interchangable? The greek and hebrew Qabalah I mean. Like say if I have a Greek word with a gematria of 280, does that correspond to the hebrew attributations for that number as well?"
In some ways, yes. The number "vibration" is common across all manifestations.
You need to keep in mind, though, that some Gematria - and, some might say, a very great deal of gematria - is intentionally crafted by teachers who left specific clues. To understand their clues, you have to work within their framework.
On the more general case, though, I think the best working approach is to first address a word-number value entirely within its own language. Thatmay give you the picture you need. If it doesn't, then look at other languages for other clues on the intrinsic value of the number.
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@Jim said
"You need to keep in mind, though, that some Gematria - and, some might say, a very great deal of gematria - is intentionally crafted by teachers who left specific clues. To understand their clues, you have to work within their framework."
Excellent. Could you give some examples as to who you are 'suggesting' when you state, " is intentionally crafted by teachers who left specific clues.'.
Thank you.
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@King of the Wolves said
"Excellent. Could you give some examples as to who you are 'suggesting' when you state, " is intentionally crafted by teachers who left specific clues.'."
Crowley. Case. Myself. Several Medieval alchemists. The writers of the Torah. The writers of the New Testament gospels. Etc. (These are just examples, of course - the net is far wider.)
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"Crowley. Case. Myself. Several Medieval alchemists. The writers of the Torah. The writers of the New Testament gospels. Etc. (These are just examples, of course - the net is far wider.)"
The first three on this list popped into my mind instantly! I just wanted to see what other 'specific' qabalists you would mention.
Thank you for your reply, Jim.
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@phoinix93 said
"93 All,
Are these two systems interchangable? The greek and hebrew Qabalah I mean. Like say if I have a Greek word with a gematria of 280, does that correspond to the hebrew attributations for that number as well?
"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law
not necessarily, but often there will be some corresondence you can find between the numbers generated by each system.
in my opinion, the greek cabala just isn't as satifactory. if i'm transliterating or translating for the purpose of gematria, i Always go for the hebrew.
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