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    Is it a fair assessment to say that since The Fool represents both balance and a vacuum that by itself it is a fairly neutral card? I presume neutral is also rather good, as things are in balance. In general, I presume The Fool to be more of a positive card than a negative card, considering the associations of Aleph.

    Then again, there is the issue of the Fool's folly, which is why I chose to ask this question. It being spring again, and since I have had certain similar experiences as I had last year at this time, I decided to draw simply one card from the THoth deck. I know this is not how people do Tarot and I know with my previous examples, Jim said something to the effect of, "well, since you're just using your own method, you're the only one who can make any sense of it," which I appreciated. Anyway, the card I pulled after a good intentional shuffle and 3 cuts was The Fool... perfect for this time of year and my thoughts of late, I thought. I just hope Thoth isn't calling me an idiot. πŸ˜† 😊 Which he very well may be.

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      Is it a fair assessment to say that since The Fool represents both balance and a vacuum that by itself it is a fairly neutral card? I presume neutral is also rather good, as things are in balance. In general, I presume The Fool to be more of a positive card than a negative card, considering the associations of Aleph.

      Then again, there is the issue of the Fool's folly, which is why I chose to ask this question. It being spring again, and since I have had certain similar experiences as I had last year at this time, I decided to draw simply one card from the THoth deck. I know this is not how people do Tarot and I know with my previous examples, Jim said something to the effect of, "well, since you're just using your own method, you're the only one who can make any sense of it," which I appreciated. Anyway, the card I pulled after a good intentional shuffle and 3 cuts was The Fool... perfect for this time of year and my thoughts of late, I thought. I just hope Thoth isn't calling me an idiot. πŸ˜† 😊 Which he very well may be.

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      I tend to think of it in a "positive" light. That there is no limitation to the possibilities besides the ones I impose myself.

      "Negative" in that, it does not provide any direction (if that is what you were looking for).

      The 'folly' of the Fool, is when he realizes that he is a Fool and tries to change that. Which is just foolish πŸ˜€

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        Is it a fair assessment to say that since The Fool represents both balance and a vacuum that by itself it is a fairly neutral card? I presume neutral is also rather good, as things are in balance. In general, I presume The Fool to be more of a positive card than a negative card, considering the associations of Aleph.

        Then again, there is the issue of the Fool's folly, which is why I chose to ask this question. It being spring again, and since I have had certain similar experiences as I had last year at this time, I decided to draw simply one card from the THoth deck. I know this is not how people do Tarot and I know with my previous examples, Jim said something to the effect of, "well, since you're just using your own method, you're the only one who can make any sense of it," which I appreciated. Anyway, the card I pulled after a good intentional shuffle and 3 cuts was The Fool... perfect for this time of year and my thoughts of late, I thought. I just hope Thoth isn't calling me an idiot. πŸ˜† 😊 Which he very well may be.

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        Remember that akasha is probably best translated "space." That is, it refers to the emptiness wherein is all-potential.

        And, or course, the card has especialy relevance to springtime. As the poet wrote,

        "Spring is sprung,
        De grass is riz,
        I wonder where dem birdies is?
        De little birds is on de wing,
        Ain’t dat absurd?
        De little wing is on de bird!"

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          Is it a fair assessment to say that since The Fool represents both balance and a vacuum that by itself it is a fairly neutral card? I presume neutral is also rather good, as things are in balance. In general, I presume The Fool to be more of a positive card than a negative card, considering the associations of Aleph.

          Then again, there is the issue of the Fool's folly, which is why I chose to ask this question. It being spring again, and since I have had certain similar experiences as I had last year at this time, I decided to draw simply one card from the THoth deck. I know this is not how people do Tarot and I know with my previous examples, Jim said something to the effect of, "well, since you're just using your own method, you're the only one who can make any sense of it," which I appreciated. Anyway, the card I pulled after a good intentional shuffle and 3 cuts was The Fool... perfect for this time of year and my thoughts of late, I thought. I just hope Thoth isn't calling me an idiot. πŸ˜† 😊 Which he very well may be.

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          Thanks to you both for the helpful answers and confirming my feelings.

          Jim, I really like that poet. If I knew who he was, I would hire him to write all the lyrics for my next album! πŸ˜€

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            Is it a fair assessment to say that since The Fool represents both balance and a vacuum that by itself it is a fairly neutral card? I presume neutral is also rather good, as things are in balance. In general, I presume The Fool to be more of a positive card than a negative card, considering the associations of Aleph.

            Then again, there is the issue of the Fool's folly, which is why I chose to ask this question. It being spring again, and since I have had certain similar experiences as I had last year at this time, I decided to draw simply one card from the THoth deck. I know this is not how people do Tarot and I know with my previous examples, Jim said something to the effect of, "well, since you're just using your own method, you're the only one who can make any sense of it," which I appreciated. Anyway, the card I pulled after a good intentional shuffle and 3 cuts was The Fool... perfect for this time of year and my thoughts of late, I thought. I just hope Thoth isn't calling me an idiot. πŸ˜† 😊 Which he very well may be.

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            I just found this interesting free PDF available through Google books called "The Word" Volume XXV April 1917 β€” September 1917.

            It says it's "A Monthly Magazine Devoted to Philosophy, Science, Religion, Eastern Thought, Occultism, Theosophy and the Brotherhood of Humanity" by HW Percival, Editor:
            inyurl.com/24mvyj

            This particular part about the Fool and Akasha is from a portion titled "The Secret Doctrine of The Tarot" by Paul Foster Case.

            It is the Ether of modern science, filling
            all space, and pervaded by an inherent electro-magnetic
            energy. This reminds me that the First Matter is said to
            be indestructible by fire, because "she is herself fire, having
            within her a portion of the universal fire of nature, and a
            secret, celestial spirit, animated and quickened by God."
            All this takes us straight back to the Hindu doctrine of
            Prakriti, the universal subjective mind, which is both substance
            and energy. As substance it is known as Akasha;
            its name as energy is Prana.
            The Kabbalistic interpretation of these two Sanskrit
            words is particularly interesting. I am not quite ready to
            defend the position that Gematria, the process by which
            I have obtained this interpretation, is properly applicable to
            Sanskrit words. All that I can say is that some of the
            results that may be reached in this manner are great aids
            to memory and association, especially when used in conjunction
            with the Tarot. Here, then, is the Gematria of
            Prana and Akasha:
            P= 80=Tower A= l=Fool
            R=200=Sun K= 2Q=Wheel of Fortune
            A= l=Fool A= l=Fool
            N= 50=Death Sh=300=Judgment
            A= l=Fool A= l=Fool
            332 323
            Prana is the fire of heaven, the lightning, or universal
            electric energy, which, because it transforms everything,
            is also the destructive principle (Tower). This energy
            comes to earth as solar force (Sun). It is the life-breath
            that descends into all forms of manifestation (Fool). Its
            transforming power, which causes old things to pass away
            to make room for the new, is what the unwise call death;
            but they who see realize that this is the basis of all progress,
            just as the skeleton is what makes possible the various
            kinds of muscular activity; change, say the wise, is the
            framework of the universe (Death). Finally, Prana is the
            indestructible principle that survives every change, for-
            ever youthful, and able always to transcend anything that
            it has thus far accomplished (Fool). The sum of the numbers
            corresponding to the letters of this word is 332, and
            the reduction of this number is 8. This is the letter-value
            of Heth.
            The same letter is the synthesis of the letter-values
            of Akasha, for the total of these is 323, which also reduces
            to 8. Akasha is the undifferentiated existence at the beginning
            of every cycle of manifestation (Fool). It descends
            from finer to grosser, and reascends at the end of the cycle
            to its original state; consequently one of the oldest symbols
            for it is the wheel (Wheel of Fortune). Its very nature,
            the inherent law of its manifestation, is therefore the promise
            of rebirth and regeneration to every soul (Judgment).
            All this is but a development of the fundamental doctrine
            that One Reality descends into manifestation and ascends
            from it eternally (Fool).
            According to this interpretation, Akasha and Prana are
            fundamentally identical. Each is represented by the letter-
            value 8, and, being equal to the same thing, they must be
            equal to each other. Every student of Hindu philosophy
            knows that this is exactly what the scriptures teach about
            Prana and Akasha. My point in working it out by a Kab-
            balistic computation, with the aid of the Tarot, is to show
            that the Tarot is, indeed, a book of universal philosophy
            for those who know how to use it.
            Other Sanskrit words that give 8 as the final reduction
            of their Gematria, and may therefore be said to correspond
            to Heth, are:
            Aditya, the Sun; Ajna, the sixth Chakra, a nerve-center
            in the brain, behind the eyebrows; Dhyana, meditation;
            Guru, "the dispeller of darkness," who is as a sun, enlightening
            the mind of the chela; Kama, desire; Manas, the vehicle
            of Buddhi; Moksha, freedom, or liberation; Purusha; Upa-
            dana, the material cause of the world; and Vasudeva, the
            manifestation of the highest Being.

            .........

            There seems to be lots of interesting stuff in this magazine. Since it is a free PDF of about 400 pages of this sort of material, it seems like a good find. And most likely the rest of the Magazine is archived and freely available at Google books, too. Just thought I'd share.

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              Is it a fair assessment to say that since The Fool represents both balance and a vacuum that by itself it is a fairly neutral card? I presume neutral is also rather good, as things are in balance. In general, I presume The Fool to be more of a positive card than a negative card, considering the associations of Aleph.

              Then again, there is the issue of the Fool's folly, which is why I chose to ask this question. It being spring again, and since I have had certain similar experiences as I had last year at this time, I decided to draw simply one card from the THoth deck. I know this is not how people do Tarot and I know with my previous examples, Jim said something to the effect of, "well, since you're just using your own method, you're the only one who can make any sense of it," which I appreciated. Anyway, the card I pulled after a good intentional shuffle and 3 cuts was The Fool... perfect for this time of year and my thoughts of late, I thought. I just hope Thoth isn't calling me an idiot. πŸ˜† 😊 Which he very well may be.

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              And let us not forget what we proclaim when formulating the second point of the Cross in the Star Ruby ritual: "O Folly!"

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                Is it a fair assessment to say that since The Fool represents both balance and a vacuum that by itself it is a fairly neutral card? I presume neutral is also rather good, as things are in balance. In general, I presume The Fool to be more of a positive card than a negative card, considering the associations of Aleph.

                Then again, there is the issue of the Fool's folly, which is why I chose to ask this question. It being spring again, and since I have had certain similar experiences as I had last year at this time, I decided to draw simply one card from the THoth deck. I know this is not how people do Tarot and I know with my previous examples, Jim said something to the effect of, "well, since you're just using your own method, you're the only one who can make any sense of it," which I appreciated. Anyway, the card I pulled after a good intentional shuffle and 3 cuts was The Fool... perfect for this time of year and my thoughts of late, I thought. I just hope Thoth isn't calling me an idiot. πŸ˜† 😊 Which he very well may be.

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                93!

                β€œThe fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool” -Shakespeare

                "if any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise” -I Corinthians 3:18

                "Only a genius can play the fool
                To madmen who deem themselves wise." -anonymous

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                  Is it a fair assessment to say that since The Fool represents both balance and a vacuum that by itself it is a fairly neutral card? I presume neutral is also rather good, as things are in balance. In general, I presume The Fool to be more of a positive card than a negative card, considering the associations of Aleph.

                  Then again, there is the issue of the Fool's folly, which is why I chose to ask this question. It being spring again, and since I have had certain similar experiences as I had last year at this time, I decided to draw simply one card from the THoth deck. I know this is not how people do Tarot and I know with my previous examples, Jim said something to the effect of, "well, since you're just using your own method, you're the only one who can make any sense of it," which I appreciated. Anyway, the card I pulled after a good intentional shuffle and 3 cuts was The Fool... perfect for this time of year and my thoughts of late, I thought. I just hope Thoth isn't calling me an idiot. πŸ˜† 😊 Which he very well may be.

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                  @Asraiya said

                  "93!

                  β€œThe fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool” -Shakespeare

                  "if any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise” -I Corinthians 3:18

                  "Only a genius can play the fool
                  To madmen who deem themselves wise." -anonymous"

                  "...only on this now solid, granite foundation of ignorance could knowledge rise so far β€”the will to knowledge on the foundation of a far more powerful will: the will to ignorance, to the uncertain, to the untrue! Not as its opposite, but β€”as its refinement!" - Nietzsche

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