Iod & Pe
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If the Ruby Star have shed its blood upon thee; if in the season of the moon thou hast invoked by the Iod and the Pe, then mayest thou partake of this most secret sacrament. - Stellae Rubeae, verse 5
What could this possibly mean: "If the Ruby Star have shed its blood upon thee"?
I have read that this Book is an instruction in homosexual [censored] Magick, but I do not see it clearly defined in the text...what does the Iod & Pe have to do with anything?
I know the Iod is the 'spermatazoon' & Pe is 'mouth'...is this pointing to a Rite similar to that of the Feast of Tahuti(MZLA[dropping from the host of Heaven])? for instance:In the end he shall offer up the Vast Sacrifice, at the moment when the God licks up the flame upon the altar. - Stellae Rubeae, verse 30
compare to verse 17 of Liber Liberi - the chapter of Mars or Pe:
The lightning came and licked up the little flock of sheep.
Lightening as in the lightening in Atu XVI(mouth)?
I have also read that the Tower, had some significance to homosexual [censored] Magick...can anyone tell me how? something to do with XI degree of O.T.O.?
I am so lost...L.Lazuli
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@Lapis said
"What could this possibly mean: "If the Ruby Star have shed its blood upon thee"? "
I published an extended commentary on Liber 66 in Black Pearl No. 7. For this verse I wrote (it loses something when taken out of context of the rest):
<blockquote>The Moon is Gimel, Atu II, The Priestess. Gimel, Iod, and Peh = 3 + 10 + 80 = 93. The invocation is made by the Iod, the “secret phallus,” or “silence,” and the Peh, the “manifest phallus,” or “speech,” which is Horus (Mars, Apep) and orgasm. Notice the transliteration “Iod,” not “Yod,” as if to emphasize the symbolism of the Wand. These letters are, as well, the initials of Ida and Pingala.
Yet, this verse may be taken more literally: the invocation may be performed, in the Priestess’ right hour, by means of the hand (Iod) and the mouth (Peh).
It is claimed that “in the season of the moon” the Red Elixir of the alchemists is most efficaciously gathered. More subtly, the “blood” of “the Ruby Star” is the red heat of imperative sexual energies, and that Elixir (spiritual vitality) flowing freely within the being of all who live life in the full embrace of the Law of Thelema.</blockquote>
"I have read that this Book is an instruction in homosexual [censored] Magick"
As you can see from the above, I do not.
"I have also read that the Tower, had some significance to homosexual [censored] Magick...can anyone tell me how? something to do with XI degree of O.T.O.?"
Well, to put it simply, The Tower is one big blasting [censored]! (And means "mouth," but that part doesn't distinguish [censored] from hetero, of course.) Male homosexuality is about maleness first and foremost - and Mars is the biological essence of that.
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@Jim Eshelman said
"Well, to put it simply, The Tower is one big blasting [censored]! (And means "mouth," but that part doesn't distinguish [censored] from hetero, of course.) Male homosexuality is about maleness first and foremost - and Mars is the biological essence of that."
Ah...so an initiated view of Atu XVI would be the Lightening issuing from the Tower as opposed to striking it? The Lightening is the Tongue within the Mouth?
also, do you see "the season of the moon" as representing menstruation(Atu XVIII), Atu II(seems unlikely to me considering its virginal connotations) or Atu VII? or all 3 some how?
I was reading "season of the moon" as 'Cancer' & 'the Chariot' b/c it features the Graal - as does Atu XI - the subject of yesterday's meditation...L.Lazuli
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@Lapis said
"Ah...so an initiated view of Atu XVI would be the Lightening issuing from the Tower as opposed to striking it? The Lightening is the Tongue within the Mouth?"
Or turn that around: Lightning strikes the Tower (which is as much "lightning rod" as anything) - and some decks actually show the Tower opening to receive it. This is, among other things, a symbol of what happens in consecration. Similarly, in orgasm, the body (and especially the phallus in the male) is alightning rod for divine force striking and moving through.
"also, do you see "the season of the moon" as representing menstruation"
Yes, that's the flow of this particular text. - The "virginal" side of Gimel is misleading since the link between her and "camel" is in the common root meaning "to bear." Gimel subsumes all of the lunar ideas.
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@Jim Eshelman said
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"also, do you see "the season of the moon" as representing menstruation"Yes, that's the flow of this particular text. - The "virginal" side of Gimel is misleading since the link between her and "camel" is in the common root meaning "to bear." Gimel subsumes all of the lunar ideas."
"that's the flow of this particular text"...no pun intended, Jim? LMAO
That would explain why, in the old deck, the unrent Veil is present behind the High Priestess' blatently Vaginal shape([censored] at the head, Her body & robe as a Kteis) in conjunction with the waters that flow from Her lap to irrigate the rest of the Tarot - She has multiple roles...just like a woman to multi-task! lol(I know guys, you can multi-task too;)
Interestingly, I have not considered this until just now, but TORA, TARO is also in Her lap...considering Gimel as MZLA, the influence from the Crown...MZLA=78=the number of Tarot cards...the exact thing being irrigated from Her...L.Lazuli
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"If the Ruby Star have shed its blood upon thee; if in the season of the moon thou hast invoked by the Iod and the Pe, then mayest thou partake of this most secret sacrament. - Liber LXVI v. 5"
I just got my hands on a copy of Commentary on the Holy Books & read Crowley's comment to verse 5 of Liber Stellae Rubeae...he identifies Pe with mouth, but Iod is likened to Phi. What esoteric connotations does Phi carry with it? Is it similar to the semenal implications surrounding Iod?
L.Lazuli
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He meant it as the initial of phallos. Yod as the phallus.
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@Lapis said
"So...are we talkin' about a b.j. here!?"
I'm not answering for Crowley. My interpretation, in my published long commentary on Liber 66, is... partly in that direction.
"If the Ruby Star have shed its blood upon thee; if in the season of the moon thou hast invoked by the Iod and the Pe, then mayst thou partake of this most secret sacrament.
The Moon is Gimel, Atu II, The Priestess. Gimel, Yod, and Peh = 3 + 10 + 80 = 93. The invocation is made by the Yod, the “secret phallus,” or “silence,” and the Peh, the “manifest phallus,” or “speech,” which is Horus (Mars, Apep) and orgasm. Notice the transliteration “Iod,” not “Yod,” as if to emphasize the symbolism of the Wand. These letters are, as well, the initials of Ida and Pingala.
Yet, this verse may be taken more literally: the invocation may be performed, in the Priestess’ right hour, by means of the hand (Yod) and the mouth (Peh).
It is claimed that “in the season of the moon” the Red Elixir of the alchemists is most efficaciously gathered. More subtly, the “blood” of “the Ruby Star” is the red heat of imperative sexual energies, and that Elixir (spiritual vitality) flowing freely within the being of all who live life in the full embrace of the Law of Thelema. "
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@V.V.V.V.V. said
"if in the season of the moon thou hast invoked by the Iod and the Pe"
...compare to The Functions of the 3 Orders in Liber Tau
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