Visions
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I'm interested to know what you define as a 'vision'. I myself have intrusive mental images that are sometimes symbolic and 'meaningful', but do not consider these visions. Is there anything that characterises a vision? Is it a mere image in the minds eye or is it a sensual confrontation? I myself would not consider something a vision unless it was of utmost clarity and detail and so present that I cannot focus on anything else. That being said, the only visions I can say I've ever truly had occured while I was under the influence of a psychedelic. What are your thoughts?
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The term can be used variously, depending on context. The broadest definition probably is, "Anything that registers on your inner sensorium," which would include what we call physical sensory perceptions. The next most narrow definition would exclude physical sensory perceptions.
But that's probably two wide. I don't have a general definition. In most cases we use the term to mean something impacting only the inner sensorium which is also outside the normal daily phenomena of consciousness (but one could whittle on those words a bit and easily find exceptions or places where the definition is misleading). Note that this includes both spontaneous and willed experiences.
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I think a Vision would stop you in your tracks. It would fill you with enormous emotional content and you'd clearly know exactly what you've witnessed. Personally, I don't think you could ever recover from having been exposed to divinity. It would change you like a heart attack changes a man's eating habits (at least for a short while)
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@PainMeridian said
"I think a Vision would stop you in your tracks. It would fill you with enormous emotional content and you'd clearly know exactly what you've witnessed. Personally, I don't think you could ever recover from having been exposed to divinity. It would change you like a heart attack changes a man's eating habits (at least for a short while)"
Just to be clear, then: Your definition includes the fact that a vision is "exposure to divinity."
If that's the definition one uses, then I pretty much agree with your assessment.
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@RifRaf said
"I always could seperate my visions from thoughts, or just randomness, by the idea that they are something that I have never seen, nor thought of, and come at a time when I have filled some prerequisite that would lead to what some call visions.
For example, I do alot of Enochian work, and have been for years. I simply close my eyes for scrying (eye-lid scrying). I get those little specs of color, maybe a thought pops into my head of something I dealt with at work, and takes form as imagery. Those I don't really consider visions. But when I see something (this is from when I first scryed TEX) like a road with tons of crosses on the side, and two doves fly off in synch and pass by me, while hearing auditory things that I can't possibly think of in my normal conciousness, I consider those legit visions.
Hmm, does that make sense?
"Yes that makes perfect sense. I get a similar process happen to me, at first the visions are very fleeting indeed as they form out of the blue spotted swirly light that I start to see, then it is as if I have momentarily gone semi conscious then a full vision occurs that is not a product of a visualized conscious thought passing through the mind. Sometimes the visions are static but more often than not, I appear to be moving within them.
The trick is trying to remember what you have seen, once you are fully conscious again and trying to remember what you have heard as the sounds seem unintelligible to conscious thought. This is why it is a good idea to have someone else there to record down what you say you see, and hear