Past Lives
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@h3fall3n777 said
"I am wondering if anyone has had success in some sort of working that allows one to get an idea of what sorts of things took place in your past lives? I know that Liber CMXIII (913) Liber Thisharb, Viae Memoriae is designed for that purpose, but if I'm not mistaken, that particular document isn't given until the 2=9. (I also read that it was for the Adept Exemptus, so I guess I'm a bit confused on that as well)."
I don't see why you can't start on Thisbarb right away. Castenada also talks about the technique of recapitulation. The Rosecrucians describe an old technique where a person, right before going to sleep, recapitulates their entire day backwards, starting from the present. One of the benefits of recapitulation is that e.g. by revisiting painful memories one undoes the imprinting and releases energy into the present. If done properly, you should start to feel lighter and more energized.
Maybe Thisbarb is reserved for 2=9 because the ultimate point of remembering past lives is to realize the pointlessness of successive reincarnations (although I believe it also energizes the person, whether they realize it or not) so that one finally summons the courage to Cross the Abyss in a vertical, as opposed to horizontal, move.
Also check out the concept of weight in the Egyptian psychostasis - why are some people heavy and others light?
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So do you people assume that Liber Thisharb actually makes you become aware of who you were in previous lives? I have always debated this with friends of mine, whether Crowley's account of his previous lives was a "real" recollection of what was done by him before 1875 or whether his choice of Eliphas Levi and other characters of the past was rather a selection of archetypes that Crowley would have felt at ease with and whose work he thought he was continuing in his present life.
I have personally always thought the latter to be more close to truth.
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The problem I have with this type of discussion is that I think it's wrongly formulated to begin with. Start with the question(s):
Am I a human being, constrained to one body of about 170 lb weight, just under six feet of height/ 1.5 feet of width/1.0 feet of thickness, and around eight decades temporal duration? Or am I a formation of energy that, for its own ultimate purposes, has decided to identify itself with such a condition of dimensionally defined beingness?
If it's the latter, then the entire issue has to be reconsidered, because our concept of what makes a 'lifetime' no longer holds up.
93 93/93,
EM
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@FraterLucius said
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...whose work he thought he was continuing in his present life.
"That would 'sum up' my thoughts on past lives. Like clues towards the mystery of what you seek to manifest in this life, where you need to 'pick up.' Whether or not you actually were the person in a past life being of little importance.
@Metzareph said
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I know that one clue is what you used to play when you were a small child.
"I used to take anything I could get my hands on apart, find out how it worked, then put it back together.
The first part was always easy... putting things back together was the hard part o.O
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I did not see this before my last post:
@Edward Mason said
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Am I a human being, constrained to one body of about 170 lb weight, just under six feet of height/ 1.5 feet of width/1.0 feet of thickness, and around eight decades temporal duration? Or am I a formation of energy that, for its own ultimate purposes, has decided to identify itself with such a condition of dimensionally defined beingness?
"I was thinking of this before as I was typing my earlier response. My view of the world has always been that everything is a different facet of my self. So, all lives which have 'passed' have been mine. Instead of being 'past lives' , in my view, it is more like 'past experiences' pertinent to the current experience.
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Djwhal Khul, as shady as that character is, supposed there to be 'Rays' on which many souls or sub-rays existed like fingers on a hand...these seemingly seperate souls could be manifest at different times but still be a continuation & extention of that Ray...in the entertainment of this theory, I suppose if one's sub-ray were followed back to its Ray like a salmon returning upstream to the place of its birth, then all of the sub-rays existing in the 'past' might seem as a previous life...
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FYI, there was an extended thread on Thelemic views of reincarnation [heruraha.net/viewtopic.php?t=1086:1qv9g3m0]](http://heruraha.net/viewtopic.php?t=1086:1qv9g3m0).
Steve
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I wasn't trying to get a conversation on reincarnation going here, it was meant to be a discussion of Liber Thisharb, Viae Memoriae and other bodies of work that could help one experience their past lives. I know that in the Tibetan Book of the Dead, after experiencing the Bardo's, the soul ends up in one of the six Lokas, but the Buddhists believe this physical one to afford the soul the greatest chance for learning. I believe if you could somehow study the "lessons" of previous lives that one could perhaps see more clearly their True Will, in that they could perhaps see the course their multiple lives have taken.
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So you were trying to get a conversation on reincarnation going here.
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No, th3fall3n777 was trying to get a practical conversation going on methods for remembering past lives, preferably from people who had succeeded in doing so, not a philosophical conversation on the reality of reincarnation.
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Exactly my point. He does want to get a conversation on reincarnation going here - not about whether it exists, but about the thing itself.
Let us not debate whether there is a sky when the question was about its color today
