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    @Christian Knorr von Rosenroth said

    740.[...]et intra hæc continentur duo renes, duo testiculi masculini.

    1. Omne enim oleum, et dignitas, et vis masculi e toto corpore in istis congregatur; nam omnes exercitus, qui prodeunt ab iis, omnes prodeunt et morantur in orificio membri genitalus.

    2. Membrum masculi est extremitas totius corporis, et vocatur Yesod, fundamentum, et hic est gradus ille qui mitigat fœminam. For every desire of the Male is toward the female.

    3. Per hoc fundamentum ille ingreditur in fœminam in locum qui vocatur Tzion et Jerusalem. Nam hic est locus tegendus fœminæ, et in uxore vocatur uterus.

    Is there anyone here qualified to translate these excerpts from 'The Lesser Holy Assembly' of Rosenroth's Kabbalah Unveiled?

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      @Christian Knorr von Rosenroth said

      740.[...]et intra hæc continentur duo renes, duo testiculi masculini.

      1. Omne enim oleum, et dignitas, et vis masculi e toto corpore in istis congregatur; nam omnes exercitus, qui prodeunt ab iis, omnes prodeunt et morantur in orificio membri genitalus.

      2. Membrum masculi est extremitas totius corporis, et vocatur Yesod, fundamentum, et hic est gradus ille qui mitigat fœminam. For every desire of the Male is toward the female.

      3. Per hoc fundamentum ille ingreditur in fœminam in locum qui vocatur Tzion et Jerusalem. Nam hic est locus tegendus fœminæ, et in uxore vocatur uterus.

      Is there anyone here qualified to translate these excerpts from 'The Lesser Holy Assembly' of Rosenroth's Kabbalah Unveiled?

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      An off-the-cuff attempt, a little crude, not double-checking everything (but it's mostly straightforward):

      1. [Afterwards in His body extended into two thighs,] and within this were contained two kidneys, two male testicles.

      2. For, every oil and dignity and masculine power from out of the whole body is in there gathered; for every assembly [army?], which they have brought forth from that, every thing was brought forth and impeded {?} in the opening of the phallus.

      [742. And therefore are they called Tzabaoth, the Armies; and they are Netzach and Hod. For Tiphereth is Tetragrammaton, but Netzach and Hod are the armies, hence cometh that name, Tetragrammaton Tzabaoth.]

      1. The phallus is [at] the complete end of the body, and is called Yesod, Foundation, and this is that which soothes the feminine. For every desire of the Male is toward the female.

      2. Through this Foundation, that [i.e., the phallus] entered into the feminine in the place that is called Zion and Jerusalem. For this is the protected place of the feminine, and in the wife is called the womb.

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        @Christian Knorr von Rosenroth said

        740.[...]et intra hæc continentur duo renes, duo testiculi masculini.

        1. Omne enim oleum, et dignitas, et vis masculi e toto corpore in istis congregatur; nam omnes exercitus, qui prodeunt ab iis, omnes prodeunt et morantur in orificio membri genitalus.

        2. Membrum masculi est extremitas totius corporis, et vocatur Yesod, fundamentum, et hic est gradus ille qui mitigat fœminam. For every desire of the Male is toward the female.

        3. Per hoc fundamentum ille ingreditur in fœminam in locum qui vocatur Tzion et Jerusalem. Nam hic est locus tegendus fœminæ, et in uxore vocatur uterus.

        Is there anyone here qualified to translate these excerpts from 'The Lesser Holy Assembly' of Rosenroth's Kabbalah Unveiled?

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        Fire Giver's translation looks fine to me. Given when Mathers published his translation, I can see why he left those lines in the Latin.

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          @Christian Knorr von Rosenroth said

          740.[...]et intra hæc continentur duo renes, duo testiculi masculini.

          1. Omne enim oleum, et dignitas, et vis masculi e toto corpore in istis congregatur; nam omnes exercitus, qui prodeunt ab iis, omnes prodeunt et morantur in orificio membri genitalus.

          2. Membrum masculi est extremitas totius corporis, et vocatur Yesod, fundamentum, et hic est gradus ille qui mitigat fœminam. For every desire of the Male is toward the female.

          3. Per hoc fundamentum ille ingreditur in fœminam in locum qui vocatur Tzion et Jerusalem. Nam hic est locus tegendus fœminæ, et in uxore vocatur uterus.

          Is there anyone here qualified to translate these excerpts from 'The Lesser Holy Assembly' of Rosenroth's Kabbalah Unveiled?

          616

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          @Fire Giver said

          "An off-the-cuff attempt, a little crude, not double-checking everything (but it's mostly straightforward):

          1. [Afterwards in His body extended into two thighs,] and within this were contained two kidneys, two male testicles.

          2. For every oil and dignity and masculine power from out of the whole body is in there gathered; for every assembly [army?], which they have brought forth from that, every thing was brought forth and impeded {?} in the opening of the phallus.

          [742. And therefore are they called Tzabaoth, the Armies; and they are Netzach and Hod. For Tiphereth is Tetragrammaton, but Netzach and Hod are the armies, hence cometh that name, Tetragrammaton Tzabaoth.]

          1. The phallus is [at] the complete end of the body, and is called Yesod, Foundation, and this is that which soothes the feminine. For every desire of the Male is toward the female.

          2. Through this Foundation, that [i.e., the phallus] entered into the feminine in the place that is called Zion and Jerusalem. For this is the protected place of the feminine, and in the wife is called the womb."

          Thanks for that Fire Giver 😉

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