Gematria/Notariqon/Temurah
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It seems to me worthwhile to buckle down and learn Hebrew. These methods are more straightforward and seems to reveal more aspects of magickal texts and symbols with a good working knowledge of the language. At least that is what I am finding, although I am still a ways from where I want to be with my understanding of the language, what I have learned has been useful.
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I think Jim summed it up.
A good example to build upon Jim's reply is
Gematria: Thelema and Agape, both enumerate to 93, and therefore share a special magickal relation. Will and Love. Hence, love under will:-)
Notariqon: I have used this quite a bit, but breaking it down, it is an acronym. Like the Hebrew word AGLA, which means "Thou art mighty forever oh Lord". (Ateh, Gebur, Le Olam, Adonai)...AGLA
Temurah: This I have used for Magickal Names, mainly, but I'm sure it can be useful in other areas as well. Here is an example:
Persis was the first magickal name I ever took.
I rearranged it to be shorter, and backwards. Sisrep.
In Hebrew: Samekh, Yod, Samekh, Resh, He, Pe.
I chose, Seya, Sera, He, Pe for my first magickal name, and enumerated it qabalistically to 415. It is also when I took my Minerval and 1st Degree initiation in the O.T.O. in 1994. 415=10, or 01.
This all had meaning and made sense to me. For each following degree, I would synchronisticaly come about a new magickal name. My next one was when I took my 2nd degree, and the name enumerated to 414, and broke down to 9. I saw how it was working in relation to the degrees, the Sephiroth involved, and the numerical value.I continued with all of my initiations.
These are just examples that I wanted to share. Maybe they may help shed more light on the subjects.
I hope all of this makes sense. I do see how it all can be confusing at first.
Hebrew is really the foundation of Western esotericism.
Qabalah, the tree of life. path workings, the Tarot, etc.Godwin's Qabalistic Encyclopedia helped me a lot in the beginning, and is still a great reference book, as well as 777.
Best wishes in your endeavors.
93 93/93.'.
James
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HI -
I'm a beginner at this stuff. I understand that 93 is the numerical value for "love" and "will" and maybe "law" too?
What does it mean exactly when someone signs off with "93 93/93" -
Thank you
93 93/93
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LOVE is the law, LOVE under WILL.
The "under" is shown by the fraction structure.
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@Tamara_Tornad said
"HI -
I'm a beginner at this stuff. I understand that 93 is the numerical value for "love" and "will" and maybe "law" too?
What does it mean exactly when someone signs off with "93 93/93" -
Thank you
93 93/93"
Crowley says that the consonents in the latin word 'Legis' (L G and S) add up to 93 if you transliterate them to Hebrew (L = 30, G = 3, S = 60 as Samekh). The Same applies to the greek word Logos if you switch it into Hebrew. Such are the ways of messing with words to get your desired result/number.
IAO131
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I am interested in numerology. I am wondering, have any others of you here taken a crack at coming up with your own English numerology, or other numerology based on your insights with Liber AL?
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@Jim Eshelman said
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@galatea said
"I wondered, does anybody have an easier way of explaining the three methods"Gematria: Words of a common numerical value co-explain each other (or a shared common idea) in some fashion. - There are more elaborate complexities on the core idea.
Notariqon (acronym): The initials of the words in a phrase may (in some instances) be treated as a word in their own right.
Temurah (permutation): Rearranging the letters in a word, the digits in a number, words in a sentence, or other rotatable parts produces meaningful identities or relationships."
There is another kind of Temurah, which substitutes, rather than permuting, letters. There are two basic schemes: “Albam temurah” splits the Hebrew alphabet in half and writes the latter 11 letters under the former, substituting the letters in one row for those in the other; so 'aleph (the first letter) becomes lamedh (the 12th), beth (2nd) becomes mem (13th) gimel becomes nun, and vice-versa in every case.
The second scheme, athbash temurah, writes the second row backwards, so 'aleph encodes to tau (the last letter), beth to shin (the last but one), gimel to resh and so on. An example of the latter is the word “Sheshak” in Jeremiah Ch 25, v 26, which is a covert reference to Babel.On a personal note; when I was about seven years old and belonged to the obligatory secret club, I devised the ciphers for their secret messages and independently (?) invented the English equivalent of both albam and athbash temurah.
I suppose it's a reasonably obvious device, but when I discovered the Qabalists used both ciphers I did wonder if it was evidence of reincarnation
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@Nudor said
"Is there a table in 777 somewhere that lists what the Hebrew numbers are for Latin letters? For example L = 30. Or is there a on-line chart somewhere to obtain these attributes?"
No. Crowley didn't know about the Latin Qabalah.
It's been posted many times on this forum. Here's another copy:
A = 1 | N = 12
B = 2 | O = 13
C = 3 | P = 14
D = 4 | Q = 15
E = 5 | R = 16
F = 6 | S = 17
G = 7 | T = 18
H = 8 | V = 19
I = 9 | X = 20
L = 10 | Y = 21
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@Nudor said
"Thank you. When calculating numeric value (Hebrew) of English letters and there are two sets of numbers, for example, M is 40 and 600, how is counted? As 640?"
No. The 600 is the value of the special form of the letter when it is the final letter in a word. However, the first number is primarily the one used, even for finals, and the larger value is used for finals to give an alternate value with a different layer of meaning.
For example, the word aleph is spelled ALP. The value of Peh is normally 80, but as a final would have the value 800. ALP is normally valued as 1 + 30 + 80 = 111. However, there is another level of meaning to be gotten from the fact that it is also 1 + 30 + 800 = 831.
Until you are solidly on your feet and experienced in gematria, I recommend you ignore the final values.
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In Crowley's work on the Sepher Sephiroth in 777, he writes: "Note that A, I, O, U, H, are really consonants, mere bases for vowels, These vowels are not here given, as they have no importance in Gematria."
Does this mean that when we use the English equivalents of Hebrew letters we do not count the vowels above?
I see that he writes A (Aleph) = 1, I is listed with Y (or J) (Yodh) = 10, O (Ayin) = 70, U listed with V (Vau) = 6, and H (Heh) = 5 so it seems confusing.
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@Nudor said
"In Crowley's work on the Sepher Sephiroth in 777, he writes: "Note that A, I, O, U, H, are really consonants, mere bases for vowels, These vowels are not here given, as they have no importance in Gematria."
Does this mean that when we use the English equivalents of Hebrew letters we do not count the vowels above?"
Minor correction (a personal pet peeve)... Sepher Sephiroth is not in 777. It is, however, in a work with various titles over the years, one of which is *777 & Other Qabalistic Writings.*It's one of the "other Qabalistic writings." 777 and Sepher Sephiroth are quite distinct works, though in recent years it has become epidemic to confuse them. End of sermon.
And on to your actual question: Don't confuse writing something in Hebrew vs. using Hebrew letters as cognates for getting numerical values of English words. For the latter technique, Aleph is an A. But in actual Hebrew, Aleph is a consonant marked by a silent expulsion of breath (to which a non-letter vowel is appended). Different systems, different rules, just the same letters.
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@Nudor said
"When doing so (using Hebrew letters as cognates for getting numerical values of English words) is I (listed with Y) = 10?"
I, J, Y, & hard e's are counted as 10.
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@Nudor said
"One more question, what does it mean when a Hebrew letter is written large?"
A large 'aleph is 1000, a large Beth 2000 and so on. These values are used for ordinary counting; I've not seen them referred to widely in Qabalah.
However, looking up "large aleph, 1000" I see there is a reference in "Sepher Sephiroth".
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Oliver P - I know the value is x 1000 when it is written large, but what does that look like? How do we distinguish when a Hebrew character is written large?
Jim - about the 777 comment. I understand the Sepher Sephiroth is separate from 777, it was just a habit, and a bad one, to use a shortened expression when referring to the work. (Almost as bad as TXT speak.) So instead of writing 777 and Other Qabalistic writings, I wrote 777. Now that I know it is a pet peeve of yours I'll avoiding doing it with all the books.
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@Nudor said
"Oliver P - I know the value is x 1000 when it is written large, but what does that look like? How do we distinguish when a Hebrew character is written large? "
In a word "differance". You can only see how big it is when you have some "normal-sized" ones to compare it with.
Such is Life Do we know the characteristics of anything when it's sitting on its own?
And yes, the 'a' in "differance" is intentional. See under "Derrida" [makes mental note to look up anything Derrida had to say about Qabalah; there must be something ] Also Foucault, "normalisation" (like "differance" pronounce it as in French).
OP