LBRP - Unusual occurance during ritual.
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Hmmm
make sure you keep your breathing deep, steady and regular.
correspond your breathing with the drawing of each line of the pentagram ( up, inhale, down exhale etc.)
alertness and sensitivity are key to good performance in ritual
hope iv helped
D.W.T.W
Alazeron
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a few times my concentration has faltered and i've mixed up the order of the archangels and/or the god names during the pentagrams. a few times i've noticed a change in mood during this, one time i become very tense and irritable. most of the time after performing the ritual correctly i feel calm and at ease. i took this as a sign that mixing up the names obviously has an adverse effect on me. has this happened to anyone else? what would you attribute it to?93,93/93
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I think I know what you mean, and I don't think it's good if it happens a lot (provided you can exclude obvious causes such as diet or sleep). I have a hunch that you are getting unbalanced elementally, I'm not sure which one, but if I had to guess, I would say earth. I am not familiar with the Regardie one year manual, but I know in in some of his other stuff the beginning student is encouraged do LBRP for earth. Now, in other posts on this forum, people have advised against doing too much banishing, you might want to search that.
If I were you, I would discontinue the LBRP for a short while, maybe invoke a little of the other elements, get some fresh air, take a swim, then see if clears up. If it does, then you have some data to support this hypothesis.
One thing I do think is that one must very observant and aware of yourself, particularly if you are a "sensitive." -
This may not be a big deal but I normally control my thoughts very well as well as my visualizations... but when I project the 4 Pentagrams during the Star Ruby, it seems they end up inverted as they travel outward?
I mean, almost every time and seems not to be in my control? Anyone have this or similar experiences?
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Well after continuing with the LBRP for around 5 years there was a cessation of the yawning as I called on Archangel Michael. Now tho it has switched to regularly occurring when i call on Raphael. Same type of yawn. Not one bit tired, healthy, focused with intent and purpose. I do think that my subconscious is trying to tell me something.
Maybe unbalanced like "underabloodredsky" says?
I do not look on it as being over analytical tho. It strikes me a begin a message that needs to be paid attention too.
Anyone any serious thoughts on this?
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Wondering about your breathe and breathing patterns. I have always heard that yawning is an attempt to get more oxygen to the brain, as for some reason this nutrient is being denied
If you are engaged in normal body activities, or have eaten in the last few hours to shift to a slower state of being may indicate that your brain wave pattern and your breathing. Cycles are trying to get in synch.
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Thanks for your reply Veronica.
My breathing is very well regulated, even when i comes to the individual lines of the pents i have the breath co ordinated with each stroke. Every morning I meditate also for 20mins before showering and getting organised for work.
I do my LBRP every day at 12 noon, following noon resh. Always have done it this way.
What do you think?
Could I be lacking in elemental balance like someone else suggested? Could anyone elaborate on this possibly? or have any other suggestions?
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I think that maybe you need to do some asanas before....sounds like your body needs a good stretching. Sun salutations or moon salutations are a great flowing stretcng excersize for your entire body. Do each posture in the flow as full as you are able, breathing with the movement, using the breathe to stretch.
A ritual is an exercise, and one should always warm up and stretch first.
I personally examine all mundane factors before even thinking about magical or spiritual.....
If you use opiates at all, yawning is common.
If you are at all nervous about your performance, or your intentions are not clear, yawning is common.If you grew up around people who habitually yawned at a certain stimulus ( ie time of day, or body movements) you could be conditioned to yawn, subconsciously.
If the room you are in is too warm, or too cold....you could yawn.
If you eat to quick, or to slow. You could yawn...
There are so many reasons why,
You are a human being, and human body's do things that need to be done.
If it bothers you then maybe the issue is not that you are yawning, or burping or what ever is happening during your rite, but the fact that it is bothering you. -
FWIW, I remain of the opinion that this is over-interpretation - almost supersititious attribution of meaning - and not anything of consequence.
Of course, I could be wrong about that and you could be annihilating vast universes and swallowing enormous amounts of lethal radiation with every yawn.
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Yawning is sometimes a symptom of anxiety in patterned behaviours.
Specifically, its a common symptom in relation to feelings of apprehension and self-consciousness during or prior to performance. Anticipation causes an unconscious tension of the upper torso that triggers the yawn. Does that ring true for you at all?
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@Marlowe said
"Yawning is sometimes a symptom of anxiety in patterned behaviours.
Specifically, its a common symptom in relation to feelings of apprehension and self-consciousness during or prior to performance. Anticipation causes an unconscious tension of the upper torso that triggers the yawn. Does that ring true for you at all?"
It'd does for me, I've noticed myself doing it in stressful situations.
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@Veronica said
"I think that maybe you need to do some asanas before....sounds like your body needs a good stretching. Sun salutations or moon salutations are a great flowing stretcng excersize for your entire body. Do each posture in the flow as full as you are able, breathing with the movement, using the breathe to stretch.
A ritual is an exercise, and one should always warm up and stretch first.
I personally examine all mundane factors before even thinking about magical or spiritual.....
If you use opiates at all, yawning is common.
If you are at all nervous about your performance, or your intentions are not clear, yawning is common.If you grew up around people who habitually yawned at a certain stimulus ( ie time of day, or body movements) you could be conditioned to yawn, subconsciously.
If the room you are in is too warm, or too cold....you could yawn.
If you eat to quick, or to slow. You could yawn...
There are so many reasons why,
You are a human being, and human body's do things that need to be done.
If it bothers you then maybe the issue is not that you are yawning, or burping or what ever is happening during your rite, but the fact that it is bothering you."Asana... could be an option. I generally rarely yawn as I train 5 times a week and have a healthy diet that consists of veg, fruit and meat with almost no processed foods. I am never tired because of it and full of energy. Hence why I questioned the yawning. But it may just be that I have now associated it with the arch angel and why it repeats....
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@Jim Eshelman said
"FWIW, I remain of the opinion that this is over-interpretation - almost supersititious attribution of meaning - and not anything of consequence.
Of course, I could be wrong about that and you could be annihilating vast universes and swallowing enormous amounts of lethal radiation with every yawn.
"Beginning to lean in your direction.... to analytical. I most likely have formed the association myself and should give it no thought.
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@Marlowe said
"Yawning is sometimes a symptom of anxiety in patterned behaviours.
Specifically, its a common symptom in relation to feelings of apprehension and self-consciousness during or prior to performance. Anticipation causes an unconscious tension of the upper torso that triggers the yawn. Does that ring true for you at all?"
Cant say it does Marlowe. I am in the same space every time and extremely confortable doing the LBRP. Never tense at all.
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@ptoner said
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@Jim Eshelman said
"FWIW, I remain of the opinion that this is over-interpretation - almost supersititious attribution of meaning - and not anything of consequence.Of course, I could be wrong about that and you could be annihilating vast universes and swallowing enormous amounts of lethal radiation with every yawn.
"Beginning to lean in your direction.... to analytical. I most likely have formed the association myself and should give it no thought."
In that case, I'd be very much inclined to go with this line of thinking.
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From what I understand about Reichan therapy(which isnt very much) yawning is the release of tension. It may seem insignificant, but when reading about Reichan therapy the Yawn is actually given a great deal of importance. During Reichan sessions a yawn supercedes all work being performed. If you begin to yawn, you're supposed to stop what your doing and go all in with it and even make a specific noise while doing so. There is a great deal of information about it that I'm not privy to, so I would consider checking this with someone more familiar with that form of therapy. But yes, In my opinion this seemingly unimportant thing could be quite important. And it is interesting to know that the body sensings in The One Year Manual are forms of Reichan therapy excercises. Understandable considering the good Doctor was a Reichan therapist.
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@ptoner said
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As part of my daily practice I have been carrying out Resh 4 times a day followed by LBRP for at least 18 months... whilst this is a long and mundane practice for some, i find that it is such a complex ritual, that almost daily i notice different details or improve aspects of it personally for me.Now since the turn of the year i have started Regardies "One Year Manual" and have also been twice a day using the "Body awareness" task twice a day and have move up from 10 mins to 15mins a session as he advises until the month is concluded and 30mins for each session is achieved.
It has only been since the start of this year and possibly the start of Regaries program that during the LBRP following Resh that i have started to Yawn once during the course of the ritual. This at first started in the work place where i conduct myself in the usual location and has since spread a week later to my personal temple at home.
Is this a common occurrence?
Do people generally yawn during rituals or am i doing something wrong...
Just to add i am not tired in the slightest but i still yawn...Possibly i am be answering my own question here but also since the start of the year i have noticed a change in the way i charge each pentagram...
I actually feel the energy surging up my body and out thru my arms (the enterer) into the pentagram.
Sometimes it happens before i get to this stage and more often than not after...I am very interested to listen to anyone else that has experienced this or is aware of what it represents."
While I'm not convinced that your yawning is magically significant, perhaps it will comfort you to know that I sometimes go weeks at a time with a yawn in the middle of each performance of Resh. I've never had to yawn during a performance of a public/group ritual, fortunately, though I sometimes worry
Here's a question: What are you doing before performing Resh? Are you sitting at a desk or on a couch and then rising to perform it? Yawning is a biological function designed to increase the flow of oxygen to the brain. It could be that you stand up, a portion of your blood flows down to your lower limbs, and you yawn a couple minutes later to compensate for for the decreased brain oxygen, as you need more to compensate for more physical exertion. Just a theory, I'm no biologist.
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I yawn almost every time, at some point, during my morning and nightly rituals - sometimes a couple times. It's a massive, deep, satisfying yawning. I attribute it to settling in and relaxing and releasing tensions. Other than that, I don't have any other ideas at this point. In my case, it seems random and not directly connected to any Archangel, etc.