Liber V vel Reguli
-
I am not sure, but I think before he wrote liber Samahk Crowley intended Vel Reguli to be used as the daily prayer for the Abramelin ritual.
-
Basically I believe he wrote Liber V as a great example of what not to do
You make a common mistake referring to this Ritual as vel Reguli... It would be more proper to refer to this Ritual as Liber V or Liber Reguli and of course Liber V vel Reguli but certainly not Liber vel Reguli...
-
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
@Tony said
"The better question may be finding a reason to use it ( rather than to not use it )...."
I've seen that after performing Liber XLIV I experience the exact thing Froclown mentioned, a fresh charge of spiritual energy. I'm much better at being in the moment afterward, and have more AHA moments, and generally feel better and see, even more so than usual, the beauty in the world around me. I figured Liber V would have a greater effect to that end.
-Cody WarrenLove is the law, love under will.
-
Well the first part of the ritual has a very good use. It balances the chakras. It's realy a must to do the balancing every day if I want to feel good but I have another sequence to do it. 6 & 1, 5 & 2, 4 & 3 chakra. I haven't tried the ritual sequence but it's on my to-do list.
Oh, and to flame a bit Crowley writes in Liber ABA pt 3 that projecting a force in the East gives more energy to the circle and in Liber V he tells to do the projecting to Boleskine. So I would go with the natural East written about in Liber ABA pt 3. -
ah the mass, yes that will charge your body of light.
I recommend organic honey for the cakes of light. It mixes better with the "fresh drippings from the host of heaven" and it has a similar cloudy appearance and texture. I assume the leavings of red wine serve a similar purpose to facilitate the mixtures
I don't burn mine and remix the ashes, I have not had much luck getting them to ignite, but the do smell nice on the brazier.
I also don't cut myself every time, They have enough blood it them to start with, and I don't need an infection.
As for the interpretation to directly apply the elements, instead of the bleeding breast, I don't have the stomach for that, I'll need a bit more evidence, this is what Crowley really meant.
-
@Froclown said
"I am not sure, but I think before he wrote liber Samahk Crowley intended Vel Reguli to be used as the daily prayer for the Abramelin ritual."
Liber Samekh and Liber Reguli were written at essentially the same time (though Samekh had essentially existed in his head since his 1906 retirement).
So... no, he didn't.
-
@Tony said
"Note that this Ritual is not specifically assigned anywhere in the A.'. A.'. curriculum...
The better question may be finding a reason to use it ( rather than to not use it )...."
I dont get why some people have an issue with Liber V Vel Reguli?
As to why its used - "an incantation proper to invoke the energies of the aeon of Horus"
I find it a very powerful ritual. I use it when performing a major work as part of series of rituals. Normally I perform this straight after banishing with the Start Ruby - to do exactly as stated - to invoke the energies of the new Aeon. Then followed by an act of will aligned with the purpose of the work.
I find it gives me a real sense of high voltage energy - puts me in the mood to go for a ten mile run - I find it results in a more active/focused form of gnosis.
Would appreciate some rationale from those who do not like this ritual as to why.
-
@kasper81 said
"i did this earlier for first time in years in fact properly thanks to this movie www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPTyDBFCVN0
i used an altar and 4 elemental weapons and afterwards i focussed on that Abbey of Cefalu self portrait of Beast and felt a strong solar force "behind me" from West overwhelming and a vigour and euphoria overtaking my personality as I had to moan loud and long AUMGN for a few minutes
pretty cool ritual and yes i used the Boleskine quarter as near enough the right direction from my location"
There is a rather big error in this video in the beginning.
-
@indeed93 said
"
There is a rather big error in this video in the beginning."Yeah, I noticed this too. He rang the 1st battery 1-3-1 instead of 1-3-3-3-1. Other than that i thought the video was quite good. Well, he omitted the ABRAHADABRA as well (didn't catch that but read the comments).
-
"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
This ritual is adapted for the daily use of the Magician of whatever grade. As I am not a member of the Order, I have no grade. But I am familiar with the LBRP and have been practicing Liber XLIV with quite positive results. Is there any reason why I should not use Liber V?
thanks - Cody WarrenLove is the law; love under will."
93,
Liber V vel Reguli is intended as an invocation of the forces of the New Aeon. This involves some intense stuff that can be seen as destructive and/or catastrophic, as the New Aeon "current" (so to speak) requires the breaking-up of old patterns, habits, and beliefs which can lead to a lot of suffering... which in turn leads to a lot of growth. As with all magick, this is exactly what you want but I believe this ritual is specifically intended to cause these changes within a specifically Thelemic "current."
You should try it out. Experimentation is the true way of magick. If it works for you, then great. If you find you are having some issues, you may want to back off and do more fundamental magical and yogic to build a firmer foundation. Hope that helps.
93 93/93
-
@kasper81 said
"
@IAO131 said
"You should try it out. Experimentation is the true way of magick. If it works for you, then great. If you find you are having some issues, you may want to back off and do more fundamental magical and yogic to build a firmer foundation. Hope that helps.
93 93/93"
i did it Sunday morning and loved it
what that says about moi i dont know?"93 kasper81,
It means you're a FREAK!
It's probably a good sign that it may be right for your temperament and current stage of development. Hope you have a good time with it.93 93/93
-
Hey, last night I was reading about the liber Reguli, and watched some videos of it being done on youtube. it was quite a lot of words and moving around in 360 degree circles.
-
It IS pretty grungy. I think (especially given your reaction) that a banishing right after is good magical sense.
At a different stage in your work, you may (or may not) have a different reaction.
Personally, I think Reguli is mostly only of significant use to people so entrenched in the GD ritual model that widdershins motions and averse pentagrams freak them. It's then a "break the rules, slap yourself in the face until you wake up and can have more than one thought at a time" ritual.
-
What is meant to be inverse is the magician, not the pentagrams. The magician is standing, or rather, hanging from the Earth, below him is the abyss of space, and to his North is the cardinal sign of Aquarius, to his South is Leo, to his East is Taurus, to his West is Scorpio. Not only does this place the elements in an unusual place to the non-observant one at first (East is now Earth, South is still Fire, West is still Water, but North is now Air) but it shows the zodiac at a midnight hour if Taurus where rising (and Scorpio would be setting). The effect of this is to turn the world on its axis! No longer is the central consciousness of the magician centered within a solar ritual (such as the LBRP does) but a cosmic ritual, he is now the center of an universe!
-
@Takamba said
"What is meant to be inverse is the magician, not the pentagrams. The magician is standing, or rather, hanging from the Earth, below him is the abyss of space, and to his North is the cardinal sign of Aquarius, to his South is Leo, to his East is Taurus, to his West is Scorpio. Not only does this place the elements in an unusual place to the non-observant one at first (East is now Earth, South is still Fire, West is still Water, but North is now Air) but it shows the zodiac at a midnight hour if Taurus where rising (and Scorpio would be setting). The effect of this is to turn the world on its axis! No longer is the central consciousness of the magician centered within a solar ritual (such as the LBRP does) but a cosmic ritual, he is now the center of an universe!"
I was thinking about it earlier today , and I thought of it like that ...I was thinking "they aren't really inverted if you were looking from space". You made it sound a lot more beautiful and interesting than the way I was picturing it
-
"Personally, I think Reguli is mostly only of significant use to people so entrenched in the GD ritual model that widdershins motions and averse pentagrams freak them. It's then a "break the rules, slap yourself in the face until you wake up and can have more than one thought at a time" ritual."
lol
-
I would stick with the astral blue such as in the LBRP.
-
Astral blue pentagrams in the LBRP. I have always seen them red like fire and the hexagrams and column in a blue?? Interesting, I don't recall actually ever reading anywhere what colour they should be. Thanks for that comment.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
-
-
In the late 1980s I undertook a Working based closely on Liber V vel Reguli, working daily for about a year or so, and found it very interesting.
There were certain things that I didn't stick to - I rarely use robes or weapons, and I didn't mark the position of Boleskine when passing that point of the circle, though on the other hand I did retain the spiral dances - but I found it to have powerful effects on consciousness/awareness.
During the last few weeks of practise, I found that violence was following me around, manifesting in people around me though never touching me personally. Towards the end of this period, one evening I was walking across the road, and heard a muffled explosion. I remember thinking at the time "Ah, the IRA bombing campaign has started early this year", then saw that a car in front of me had burst into flames from under its engine bonnet. At the same time, there was a sudden and strong sensation in my solar plexus, and I knew with absolute certainty that this event was connected with my daily working.
So, exploding cars and surrounding violence apart, this is a very interesting Working to undertake and one that I can recommend.