A Question on Astral Projection
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If this is not the right place for this question then please move it to the appropriate channel.
My question is thus:
Is astral projection a siddhi or can it be a conduit to 'higher progress'?By astral projection I mean what is also referred to as etheric projection or OBE - the willed exteriorization of your consciousness through the use of mind awake/body asleep techniques. Like this one:
www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.com/wake-induced-lucid-dreams.htmlOr - freebie question 2 - is it a matter of self-discretion?
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@seekinghga said
"If this is not the right place for this question then please move it to the appropriate channel.
My question is thus:
Is astral projection a siddhi or can it be a conduit to 'higher progress'?By astral projection I mean what is also referred to as etheric projection or OBE - the willed exteriorization of your consciousness through the use of mind awake/body asleep techniques. Like this one:
www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.com/wake-induced-lucid-dreams.htmlOr - freebie question 2 - is it a matter of self-discretion?"
93,
Astral travel is seen as a method or means toward 'higher progress' through Rising on the Planes, etc.
Look up "Liber O" and make sure to read the last 2 or 3 sections carefully,
IAO131
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I am somewhat dumbfounded as I have read that particular section of Liber O many a time, and yet I never thought of it in connection to my question. I suppose that it is just a matter of another's perspective. Many thanks IAO131.
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@seekinghga said
"I am somewhat dumbfounded as I have read that particular section of Liber O many a time, and yet I never thought of it in connection to my question. I suppose that it is just a matter of another's perspective. Many thanks IAO131."
93,
From the recording of the different Trances Crowley mentions during his workings, it seems those alone would be worthwhile results.
IAO131
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No matter how many times I read LIber O I cant seem to make success on the astral plane. everythings all dull and faded, and I cant concentrate long enough to make anything stay put
I sometimes wonder whats the point -
Rifraf, I've read you're experimenting with pranayama to induce AP or was it visions? See Rebirthing and Holotropic breathwork. One yogini told me she uses pranayama to induce AP - too bad I didn't ask about the breathing pattern.
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93 Modest,
I have to fully say that (IMO), Liber O has nothing to do with wat you are trying to achieve, as well as find out.
I know from experience, that Rhythmic Breathing (Pranayama) , and visualization techniques on the verge of sleeping do eventually lead to OBE.
Working in the Astral, as well as rising on the planes is a bit different then consciously knowing one is out of their physical body. It is beautiful in this plane (Astral.)
The middle pillar exercise is a great a great start, as it incorporates Pranayama, and Visualization. I recommend doing it before retiring for sleep.
Keep a journal by the bed side. You will be amazed at what happens in a bit of time.Hope this helps.
93 93/93.'.
James