Sekhmet: The Eye of Ra-Hoor-Khuit
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Right I said strong sense.
Isn't Qabbalah a personification of the Egyptian Ennead in a sense?
Isn't there more to it than math, like personifications of process?
There's no inherent quality to quantities, it's all relative to the base, right?Does the Egyto-mythos reflect functions of physics and forces of nature or some higher metaphysical reality?
I think nothing really equates anything, isn't this kind of 'maybe logic' the nature of θέλημα?
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@Middleman said
"Right I said sense of humor.
Isn't Qabbalah a personification of the Egyptian Ennead?
Isn't there more to it than math, like personifications of fields and forces?
There's no inherent quality to quantities, it's all relative to the base, right?Does the Egyto-mythos reflect functions of physics and forces of nature or some higher metaphysical reality?
I think nothing really equates anything, isn't this kind of 'maybe logic' the nature of θέλημα?"
You ask a lot of good questions in this and the other threads....
The Ennead(like all Mythology) is the personification of the Qaubalah, not the other way around. And the Quabalah itself is math, number, the purest type of symbol, but yet still just symbolic. But really pure symbol has its benefits but also its drawbacks. Because of its purity, etherity, there is no "meat" in it. We need more to fire our imaginations, emotions, thoughts and actions, thus ritual, Deities, incense, sound, color and so on. Why are their seven colours, seven tones, seven planets, 12 half-steps, 12 signs of the Zodiac? Why are there other magical mathematical interests such as the golden ratio? Why? As above so below; all these reflect that which is above on the way down, but equally veil those very same things when gazing upward.
Math does symbolise fields and forces. Isn't that what the Tarot is about? The Book of Thoth addresses these questions I think.
Relativity depends on point of view, if I'm not mistaken.
The question regarding mythos reflecting physics or higher reality assumes that there is an either/or proposition; this is false.
"maybe logic"? I don't think so. Understanding comes only to those who deserve it. And no matter where one is on the ladder, where one is now is where one is. Future growth depends on the strength to accept that humbly, and to choose to live life now as one wants to. So if you want to be a King, then live today as if you are one.
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@Middleman said
"Thanks, good answers, I've got to be careful how I word things.
Does the Egypto-mythos reflect not only functions of psyche and forces of nature but also some sort of metaphysical reality?
I guess 'metaphysical reality' could be functions of the psyche but is there more to it?"
These particular questions you pose seem relatively basic (and obvious) compared with what you have demonstrated you already know in other threads. In other words, you seem too advanced to ask this.... So I am looking deeper into your questions.
I could be wrong, but it seems to me that you are really asking if God(s) exists! Are they real?
I relate to what you said in the other thread about finding the G.'.D.'. material and how things fell into place, then finding Thelema and Crowley and recognising genius, but having a lot of questions. I too am skeptical, as Crowley advises, and I too wonder how I can accept something I don't fully understand etc.
Let me ask you some questions. If Deity exists only in our minds, and if we each of us continually creates the Universe, then do we create Deity and does that make them less real?
If an infant wants milk and we deny him that saying he should eat meat instead, do we treat our adult selves the same way and deny ourselves the psycological and emotional food we need if we are not able to digest the more pure food?
Doesn't Crowley write that there are four types of atheists, the stupid man on one end, and the High Adept on the other? "The philosophical adept, who, knowing God, says 'There is No God,' meaning, 'God isZero,' as qabalistically He is." -Liber 58.
Lastly, I will tell you how I personally work. I philosophically accept that God is Zero. I also need to believe in personal Deities. I do not think I am deceiving myself for this, because if God doesn't exist, and Deity doesn't exist, then I don't either. Whether all is real or unreal is just word play, and dependent on perception. And the only point of view that matters to me is my current point of view....
Also, I am glad to be alive and incarnated. I don't think duality is bad; it wouldn't exist if it wasn't necessary. Besides, I think there are a lot of beings who would love to be human. I was thinking the other day, how living in time-space is limiting, but the other side of the coin of limiting is "focusing". Because of time-space, we get to experience the nitty-gritty of life, both in truth and falsehood, good and bad, beauty and horror. Aren't we lucky?!?
So let's have a feast for life, and a greater one for death!
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@Middleman said
"Does the Egyto-mythos reflect functions of physics and forces of nature or some higher metaphysical reality?"
I regard the Egyptian gods as principles in which forces of nature and higher metaphysical realities are united. By studying their relationships with each other, you can recover a hidden grammar or deep structure wherein concepts like birth and death appear to be effects, the surface play of signification, of this grammar rather than fixed absolutes. Consequently perceptions of reality are prone to radically change when a god "speaks" or at the Equinox of the Gods.
I am not convinced the Enneads can be equated to the Tree of Life. I have considered in the past that the sycamore tree in which the scattered pieces of Osiris were gathered could be a candidate. But one way or the other, either the Egyptian gods or the Tree becomes significantly reduced in the attempt.
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Do what thou Wilt shall be the Whole of the Law
It was an Ordeal, passing on such as this unto the Citizenry, it was not an ordeal I could succeed or fail, but Horus dared Me, Am I to ignore a challenge from the Supreme and Terrible God? His Vengeance is My Reward. To truly Worship Him We must also place ourselves at His Mercy and Severity, Remember, the Way to Mastery is Breaking All the Rules, and then dying for it...
Love is the Law, Love Under Will
Prepare for the New Word...
Aleph
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Cute. Amusing comes to mind too.
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The ratios of the different pieces of the eye are interesting...
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@Student Aleph 9 2 said
"Do what thou Wilt shall be the Whole of the Law
It was an Ordeal, passing on such as this unto the Citizenry, it was not an ordeal I could succeed or fail, but Horus dared Me, Am I to ignore a challenge from the Supreme and Terrible God? His Vengeance is My Reward. To truly Worship Him We must also place ourselves at His Mercy and Severity, Remember, the Way to Mastery is Breaking All the Rules, and then dying for it...
Love is the Law, Love Under Will
Prepare for the New Word...
Aleph"
You might do well to recall that Thoth is accompanied at all times by an ape, whose business it is to produce base imitations of His wisdom.
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The correlations between Sokhmet and other goddesses point to the star Sirius, know by the greek as Sothis.
You can put side by side Sopdu, Sopdet and Sekhmet. Sopdet being the mother of Venus -> Netzach. It all makes sense. -
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Shiva Tseba'oth said:"The correlations between Sokhmet and other goddesses point to the star Sirius, know by the greek as Sothis.
You can put side by side Sopdu, Sopdet and Sekhmet. Sopdet being the mother of Venus -> Netzach. It all makes sense."The star Sirius is identified with Isis. The linguistic similarities you note here do not mean that Sopdet and Sekhmet are the same word, nor related words. They use different roots. The prefix 'Sop' means 'sharp,' and is a reference to Sopdet/Sirius being a brilliant point in the heavens. Sekh, or sekhem, means 'powerful, mighty,' and in both cases the 'et' ending simply indicates a female name.
Not that Isis is weak, but her functions in the Egyptian pantheon(s) are quite different to those of Sekhmet. Isis can be said to correspond to several points on the Tree : Netzach, yes, Binah too, and both Gimel and Daleth. Crowley also says some interesting things in the Book of Thoth about her connection to Yod, the path of the Hermit card, which is identified with the constellation Virgo.
Sekhmet would correspond to Geburah and also the path of Teth.
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Edward