'loose elemental'

Anchorite

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

I've been doing the Probationer work now for 2 years, I have no mentor however and I used to post here for advice. However for some unexplainable reason I was banned, I'm guessing error?
Anyhow since the new forum was opened I can use it again and it's good to be back. I'm moving to Philly from the UK and hopefully will be able to apply to the Temple for Training as soon as I get my feet. I've bought the excellent AA book in the meantime. Thanks Jim for an excellent work.

So a question.
I've been doing LBRP, LBRH, energised meditation, asana, pranayama, resh etc daily in a room in a appartment in Philly set aside as Temple. No other work has been done , not even sigils. However in the night there are growls, things falling, clattering, loud noises, even a half formed shadow shape. I'm guessing an 'Earth Elemental'?

I am used to such events occuring, it was a regular occurance when at home - indeed nightly the objects on my Altar would be moved audiably and visably. I normally told them to 'keep the noise down' and they did, (they still moved things just much more quietly).

However my gf isn't used to this and is quite upset (since she watched Paranormal Activity her imagination has gone into a little overdrive ) I've been trying to calm her saying our subconcious expectations determine the shape of the magical childe and fear is not a good reaction, however I think she may be providing some energy for the phenomena.
She's not anti the work, and I don't want her to be , so does anyone have any idea as to what this could be or how to get it to work for me rather than against her? How would I train it or set it free?

Love is the Law, Love under Will.

Jim Eshelman

@Anchorite said

"...I used to post here for advice. However for some unexplainable reason I was banned, I'm guessing error?"

I have no memory of it. If it wasn't for your actions (sounds like it was not), then you may have gotten swept up in one of the other security measure. For example, to my regret, it became necessary to block most of the IP addresses in and around Amsterdam. (But if you've been in the UK, then that wasn't likely it.) Your current email domain was not one I've ever had to block. Etc. (PS - I know you were't removed "for cause," because your posts remain here.)

"I'm moving to Philly from the UK and hopefully will be able to apply to the Temple for Training as soon as I get my feet. I've bought the excellent AA book in the meantime. Thanks Jim for an excellent work."

You're welcome. You probably want to contact our Temple in New York City when you get established (see contact lists on <a class="postlink" href="http://www.thelema.org">www.thelema.org</a>).

"I've been doing LBRP, LBRH, energised meditation, asana, pranayama, resh etc daily in a room in a appartment in Philly set aside as Temple. No other work has been done , not even sigils. However in the night there are growls, things falling, clattering, loud noises, even a half formed shadow shape. I'm guessing an 'Earth Elemental'?

I am used to such events occuring, it was a regular occurance when at home - indeed nightly the objects on my Altar would be moved audiably and visably. I normally told them to 'keep the noise down' and they did, (they still moved things just much more quietly)."

Yes, it isn't unusual for this sort of thing to break out at a certain stage of the Work. (You could still benefit from better banishing if this has continued more than, say, 6 months.)

"However my gf isn't used to this and is quite upset (since she watched Paranormal Activity her imagination has gone into a little overdrive ) I've been trying to calm her saying our subconcious expectations determine the shape of the magical childe and fear is not a good reaction, however I think she may be providing some energy for the phenomena. She's not anti the work, and I don't want her to be , so does anyone have any idea as to what this could be or how to get it to work for me rather than against her? How would I train it or set it free?"

First, why is she in that space? If it's used only for a Temple space, perhaps there's no reason for her to go there until she's comfortable with it? After all, you're just reinforcing the negative.

Secondly, as mentioned above, perhaps it could use more banishing. Also, the main point of your conversation with her might be that there is stuff not visible to the senses that is as real, and as much a part of your life, as things that are visible to the senses - and see if she's willing to accept that principle.

But perhaps the best idea is to expose her to intense but positive expressions of ritual, etc. In that regard, since you're in Philly, I might suggest that the two of you plan to attend the Thelemic Mass that our New York Temple will be offering the first Sunday in March. (Details to be published in the near future.)

Anchorite

@Jim Eshelman said

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I have no memory of it. If it wasn't for your actions (sounds like it was not), then you may have gotten swept up in one of the other security measure. For example, to my regret, it became necessary to block most of the IP addresses in and around Amsterdam. (But if you've been in the UK, then that wasn't likely it.) Your current email domain was not one I've ever had to block. Etc. (PS - I know you were't removed "for cause," because your posts remain here.) "

I'm on a different ISP here, I was on talktalk in the UK but I'm glad I didn't do anything wrong

"
You're welcome. You probably want to contact our Temple in New York City when you get established (see contact lists on www.thelema.org)."

Thank you very much, I will definately look them up at the first opportunity.

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Yes, it isn't unusual for this sort of thing to break out at a certain stage of the Work. (You could still benefit from better banishing if this has continued more than, say, 6 months.)"

It settled down in my home in the UK after a while yes. I've not had any trouble -with localised activity at least, the Path's other problems are a different story of course

"
First, why is she in that space? If it's used only for a Temple space, perhaps there's no reason for her to go there until she's comfortable with it? After all, you're just reinforcing the negative.

Secondly, as mentioned above, perhaps it could use more banishing. Also, the main point of your conversation with her might be that there is stuff not visible to the senses that is as real, and as much a part of your life, as things that are visible to the senses - and see if she's willing to accept that principle."

I'm sorry for not clarifying . The events are occuring in the bathroom and bedroom principally and the Temple is the other side of the appartment, I've had no trouble inside the temple. However yes she actually did sit in for a banishing since she was interested in it. We've talked about it for a while and she was comfortable and I wouldn't exactly say she's freaking out, she's looking at it very level headedly and has just smiled at me saying ''I just want a good nights sleep and thank's Jim for taking the time to answer us'.
I'll rebanish the rooms one by one and see if things calm down.

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But perhaps the best idea is to expose her to intense but positive expressions of ritual, etc. In that regard, since you're in Philly, I might suggest that the two of you plan to attend the Thelemic Mass that our New York Temple will be offering the first Sunday in March. (Details to be published in the near future.)"

We'd love to. I've never even met another Thelemite so to see the Mass would be beautiful. I have to go back to the UK to cross the T's but will try my hardest to make it and Amanda says 'Thank you, it's an honour to be asked, thats very kind of you'