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    What does Khephra represent?

    "There is a budding morrow in midnight", wrote Keats. For this reason there appears at the bottom of the card, underneath the water which is tinged with graphs of abomination, the sacred Beetle, the Egyptian Khephra, bearing in his mandibles the Solar Disk. It is this Beetle that bears the Sun in his Silence through the darkness of Night and the bitterness of Winter. - BOT, The Moon Card

    ...while Nun is the Eagle of sexual Ecstasy, the Serpent of Life through Death, the Scorpion or Scarab of Kephra, the Womb which transmutes through corruption... - CEPHALOEDIUM Working

    If I say "Come up upon the mountains!" the Celestial Waters shall flow at my Word.
    For I am Ra incarnate!
    Kephra created in the Flesh!
    I am the Eidolon of my father Tmu, Lord of the City of the Sun! - LIBER ISRAFEL

    Ra-Hoor is the Sun God; Tahuti is the Egyptian Mercury; Kephra is the Sun at midnight. - Magick Without Tears, Letter C

    I notice that there are 3 instances of Kephra (spelled Khephra) in 777:
    Table XIX: Selection of Egyptian Gods
    Row 18, 24 and 29 (as Scarab in Tarot Trump)

    Liber AL - 74. There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son

    Old Comment:
    Perhaps refers to the addition of the name to 418. But Khephra is the Sun at midnight in the North. Now in the North is Taurus, the Bull, Apis the Redeemer, the Son.

    And for some Wiki info on the scarab:

    Ancient Egyptian scarabs were popular amulets in ancient Egypt. According to ancient Egyption mythos, the sun (Ra) rolls across the sky each day and transforms bodies and souls. Modeled upon the Scarabaeidae family dung beetle, which rolls dung into a ball for the purposes of laying eggs (which would be later transformed into larva), the scarab was seen as an earthly symbol of this heavenly cycle. This came to be iconographic, and ideological symbols were incorporated into Ancient Egyptian society.

    And

    In Egyptian mythology, Khepri (also spelled Khepera, Kheper, Chepri, Khepra) is the name of a major god. Khepri is associated with the dung beetle (kheper), whose behavior of maintaining spherical balls of dung represents the forces which move the sun. Khepri gradually came to be considered as an embodiment of the sun itself, and therefore was a solar deity. To explain where the sun goes at night, such pushing was extended to the underworld, Khepri's pushing of the sun being ceaseless.

    SO WHAT IS KEPHRA???

    I also notice various spellings - does this signify a difference in the Godform? (ie. Kephra, Khepra)

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      What does Khephra represent?

      "There is a budding morrow in midnight", wrote Keats. For this reason there appears at the bottom of the card, underneath the water which is tinged with graphs of abomination, the sacred Beetle, the Egyptian Khephra, bearing in his mandibles the Solar Disk. It is this Beetle that bears the Sun in his Silence through the darkness of Night and the bitterness of Winter. - BOT, The Moon Card

      ...while Nun is the Eagle of sexual Ecstasy, the Serpent of Life through Death, the Scorpion or Scarab of Kephra, the Womb which transmutes through corruption... - CEPHALOEDIUM Working

      If I say "Come up upon the mountains!" the Celestial Waters shall flow at my Word.
      For I am Ra incarnate!
      Kephra created in the Flesh!
      I am the Eidolon of my father Tmu, Lord of the City of the Sun! - LIBER ISRAFEL

      Ra-Hoor is the Sun God; Tahuti is the Egyptian Mercury; Kephra is the Sun at midnight. - Magick Without Tears, Letter C

      I notice that there are 3 instances of Kephra (spelled Khephra) in 777:
      Table XIX: Selection of Egyptian Gods
      Row 18, 24 and 29 (as Scarab in Tarot Trump)

      Liber AL - 74. There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son

      Old Comment:
      Perhaps refers to the addition of the name to 418. But Khephra is the Sun at midnight in the North. Now in the North is Taurus, the Bull, Apis the Redeemer, the Son.

      And for some Wiki info on the scarab:

      Ancient Egyptian scarabs were popular amulets in ancient Egypt. According to ancient Egyption mythos, the sun (Ra) rolls across the sky each day and transforms bodies and souls. Modeled upon the Scarabaeidae family dung beetle, which rolls dung into a ball for the purposes of laying eggs (which would be later transformed into larva), the scarab was seen as an earthly symbol of this heavenly cycle. This came to be iconographic, and ideological symbols were incorporated into Ancient Egyptian society.

      And

      In Egyptian mythology, Khepri (also spelled Khepera, Kheper, Chepri, Khepra) is the name of a major god. Khepri is associated with the dung beetle (kheper), whose behavior of maintaining spherical balls of dung represents the forces which move the sun. Khepri gradually came to be considered as an embodiment of the sun itself, and therefore was a solar deity. To explain where the sun goes at night, such pushing was extended to the underworld, Khepri's pushing of the sun being ceaseless.

      SO WHAT IS KEPHRA???

      I also notice various spellings - does this signify a difference in the Godform? (ie. Kephra, Khepra)

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      Different spellings represent different modes of transliterating the original Egyptian into English.

      Khephra is that Egyptian god, an aspect of the Sun, who especially bears the Sun through the night (including the midnight of the year). In this sense, He is both caretaker during the dark phase, and god of resurrection. He is represented by the scarab.

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        What does Khephra represent?

        "There is a budding morrow in midnight", wrote Keats. For this reason there appears at the bottom of the card, underneath the water which is tinged with graphs of abomination, the sacred Beetle, the Egyptian Khephra, bearing in his mandibles the Solar Disk. It is this Beetle that bears the Sun in his Silence through the darkness of Night and the bitterness of Winter. - BOT, The Moon Card

        ...while Nun is the Eagle of sexual Ecstasy, the Serpent of Life through Death, the Scorpion or Scarab of Kephra, the Womb which transmutes through corruption... - CEPHALOEDIUM Working

        If I say "Come up upon the mountains!" the Celestial Waters shall flow at my Word.
        For I am Ra incarnate!
        Kephra created in the Flesh!
        I am the Eidolon of my father Tmu, Lord of the City of the Sun! - LIBER ISRAFEL

        Ra-Hoor is the Sun God; Tahuti is the Egyptian Mercury; Kephra is the Sun at midnight. - Magick Without Tears, Letter C

        I notice that there are 3 instances of Kephra (spelled Khephra) in 777:
        Table XIX: Selection of Egyptian Gods
        Row 18, 24 and 29 (as Scarab in Tarot Trump)

        Liber AL - 74. There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son

        Old Comment:
        Perhaps refers to the addition of the name to 418. But Khephra is the Sun at midnight in the North. Now in the North is Taurus, the Bull, Apis the Redeemer, the Son.

        And for some Wiki info on the scarab:

        Ancient Egyptian scarabs were popular amulets in ancient Egypt. According to ancient Egyption mythos, the sun (Ra) rolls across the sky each day and transforms bodies and souls. Modeled upon the Scarabaeidae family dung beetle, which rolls dung into a ball for the purposes of laying eggs (which would be later transformed into larva), the scarab was seen as an earthly symbol of this heavenly cycle. This came to be iconographic, and ideological symbols were incorporated into Ancient Egyptian society.

        And

        In Egyptian mythology, Khepri (also spelled Khepera, Kheper, Chepri, Khepra) is the name of a major god. Khepri is associated with the dung beetle (kheper), whose behavior of maintaining spherical balls of dung represents the forces which move the sun. Khepri gradually came to be considered as an embodiment of the sun itself, and therefore was a solar deity. To explain where the sun goes at night, such pushing was extended to the underworld, Khepri's pushing of the sun being ceaseless.

        SO WHAT IS KEPHRA???

        I also notice various spellings - does this signify a difference in the Godform? (ie. Kephra, Khepra)

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        I notice that in 777, Crowley suggests Anubi as a Practical Egyptian God Attribution for line item 29 (Khephra in the Moon Card). Anubis (same as Anubi?) was a big wig God of the Dead. Osiris replaced him in this role according to Wiki in the Middle Kingdom.

        So 3 gods of Death (and maybe ressurection?) - but there seem to be subtle differences to them. I just can't figure how this relates to, and what are the, subtle nuances to the God of Death Motif.

        Anubis is jackal headed
        Osiris is human headed
        Khepra is beetle headed

        On the Moon card, Khepra is bearing the sun along the path (similar to the aspirant on the path?), while Anubis guards the watchtowers through which one pass. What is the meaning of them both? How are they related?

        And in Resh, Khepra is all about rebirth, right?

        So is the beetle in the Moon card, showing us the method or rebirthing our "midnight sun" from the Womb?

        Is the importance of the beetle (that he bears the midnight sun), similar to the chariot? Is he the charioteer?

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          What does Khephra represent?

          "There is a budding morrow in midnight", wrote Keats. For this reason there appears at the bottom of the card, underneath the water which is tinged with graphs of abomination, the sacred Beetle, the Egyptian Khephra, bearing in his mandibles the Solar Disk. It is this Beetle that bears the Sun in his Silence through the darkness of Night and the bitterness of Winter. - BOT, The Moon Card

          ...while Nun is the Eagle of sexual Ecstasy, the Serpent of Life through Death, the Scorpion or Scarab of Kephra, the Womb which transmutes through corruption... - CEPHALOEDIUM Working

          If I say "Come up upon the mountains!" the Celestial Waters shall flow at my Word.
          For I am Ra incarnate!
          Kephra created in the Flesh!
          I am the Eidolon of my father Tmu, Lord of the City of the Sun! - LIBER ISRAFEL

          Ra-Hoor is the Sun God; Tahuti is the Egyptian Mercury; Kephra is the Sun at midnight. - Magick Without Tears, Letter C

          I notice that there are 3 instances of Kephra (spelled Khephra) in 777:
          Table XIX: Selection of Egyptian Gods
          Row 18, 24 and 29 (as Scarab in Tarot Trump)

          Liber AL - 74. There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son

          Old Comment:
          Perhaps refers to the addition of the name to 418. But Khephra is the Sun at midnight in the North. Now in the North is Taurus, the Bull, Apis the Redeemer, the Son.

          And for some Wiki info on the scarab:

          Ancient Egyptian scarabs were popular amulets in ancient Egypt. According to ancient Egyption mythos, the sun (Ra) rolls across the sky each day and transforms bodies and souls. Modeled upon the Scarabaeidae family dung beetle, which rolls dung into a ball for the purposes of laying eggs (which would be later transformed into larva), the scarab was seen as an earthly symbol of this heavenly cycle. This came to be iconographic, and ideological symbols were incorporated into Ancient Egyptian society.

          And

          In Egyptian mythology, Khepri (also spelled Khepera, Kheper, Chepri, Khepra) is the name of a major god. Khepri is associated with the dung beetle (kheper), whose behavior of maintaining spherical balls of dung represents the forces which move the sun. Khepri gradually came to be considered as an embodiment of the sun itself, and therefore was a solar deity. To explain where the sun goes at night, such pushing was extended to the underworld, Khepri's pushing of the sun being ceaseless.

          SO WHAT IS KEPHRA???

          I also notice various spellings - does this signify a difference in the Godform? (ie. Kephra, Khepra)

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          @Tinman said

          "Is the importance of the beetle (that he bears the midnight sun), similar to the chariot? Is he the charioteer?"

          Kinda sorta. Not bad. Especially since the scarab was the Egyptian form of the constellation Cancer.

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            What does Khephra represent?

            "There is a budding morrow in midnight", wrote Keats. For this reason there appears at the bottom of the card, underneath the water which is tinged with graphs of abomination, the sacred Beetle, the Egyptian Khephra, bearing in his mandibles the Solar Disk. It is this Beetle that bears the Sun in his Silence through the darkness of Night and the bitterness of Winter. - BOT, The Moon Card

            ...while Nun is the Eagle of sexual Ecstasy, the Serpent of Life through Death, the Scorpion or Scarab of Kephra, the Womb which transmutes through corruption... - CEPHALOEDIUM Working

            If I say "Come up upon the mountains!" the Celestial Waters shall flow at my Word.
            For I am Ra incarnate!
            Kephra created in the Flesh!
            I am the Eidolon of my father Tmu, Lord of the City of the Sun! - LIBER ISRAFEL

            Ra-Hoor is the Sun God; Tahuti is the Egyptian Mercury; Kephra is the Sun at midnight. - Magick Without Tears, Letter C

            I notice that there are 3 instances of Kephra (spelled Khephra) in 777:
            Table XIX: Selection of Egyptian Gods
            Row 18, 24 and 29 (as Scarab in Tarot Trump)

            Liber AL - 74. There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son

            Old Comment:
            Perhaps refers to the addition of the name to 418. But Khephra is the Sun at midnight in the North. Now in the North is Taurus, the Bull, Apis the Redeemer, the Son.

            And for some Wiki info on the scarab:

            Ancient Egyptian scarabs were popular amulets in ancient Egypt. According to ancient Egyption mythos, the sun (Ra) rolls across the sky each day and transforms bodies and souls. Modeled upon the Scarabaeidae family dung beetle, which rolls dung into a ball for the purposes of laying eggs (which would be later transformed into larva), the scarab was seen as an earthly symbol of this heavenly cycle. This came to be iconographic, and ideological symbols were incorporated into Ancient Egyptian society.

            And

            In Egyptian mythology, Khepri (also spelled Khepera, Kheper, Chepri, Khepra) is the name of a major god. Khepri is associated with the dung beetle (kheper), whose behavior of maintaining spherical balls of dung represents the forces which move the sun. Khepri gradually came to be considered as an embodiment of the sun itself, and therefore was a solar deity. To explain where the sun goes at night, such pushing was extended to the underworld, Khepri's pushing of the sun being ceaseless.

            SO WHAT IS KEPHRA???

            I also notice various spellings - does this signify a difference in the Godform? (ie. Kephra, Khepra)

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            www.hermetic.com/osiris/anubis.htm

            "we can confidently state that Anubis acts as both guardian and guide in the Moon"

            Just like Kephra acts as both guardian and guide to the sun at midnight...

            ...

            Alright, here's one for you all:

            In the Book of Lies, the chapter called "The Stag Beetle":
            Is THAT (which hath no person) represented by the Beetle itself? The sun it carries? The yoga of them both? Something else?

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              What does Khephra represent?

              "There is a budding morrow in midnight", wrote Keats. For this reason there appears at the bottom of the card, underneath the water which is tinged with graphs of abomination, the sacred Beetle, the Egyptian Khephra, bearing in his mandibles the Solar Disk. It is this Beetle that bears the Sun in his Silence through the darkness of Night and the bitterness of Winter. - BOT, The Moon Card

              ...while Nun is the Eagle of sexual Ecstasy, the Serpent of Life through Death, the Scorpion or Scarab of Kephra, the Womb which transmutes through corruption... - CEPHALOEDIUM Working

              If I say "Come up upon the mountains!" the Celestial Waters shall flow at my Word.
              For I am Ra incarnate!
              Kephra created in the Flesh!
              I am the Eidolon of my father Tmu, Lord of the City of the Sun! - LIBER ISRAFEL

              Ra-Hoor is the Sun God; Tahuti is the Egyptian Mercury; Kephra is the Sun at midnight. - Magick Without Tears, Letter C

              I notice that there are 3 instances of Kephra (spelled Khephra) in 777:
              Table XIX: Selection of Egyptian Gods
              Row 18, 24 and 29 (as Scarab in Tarot Trump)

              Liber AL - 74. There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son

              Old Comment:
              Perhaps refers to the addition of the name to 418. But Khephra is the Sun at midnight in the North. Now in the North is Taurus, the Bull, Apis the Redeemer, the Son.

              And for some Wiki info on the scarab:

              Ancient Egyptian scarabs were popular amulets in ancient Egypt. According to ancient Egyption mythos, the sun (Ra) rolls across the sky each day and transforms bodies and souls. Modeled upon the Scarabaeidae family dung beetle, which rolls dung into a ball for the purposes of laying eggs (which would be later transformed into larva), the scarab was seen as an earthly symbol of this heavenly cycle. This came to be iconographic, and ideological symbols were incorporated into Ancient Egyptian society.

              And

              In Egyptian mythology, Khepri (also spelled Khepera, Kheper, Chepri, Khepra) is the name of a major god. Khepri is associated with the dung beetle (kheper), whose behavior of maintaining spherical balls of dung represents the forces which move the sun. Khepri gradually came to be considered as an embodiment of the sun itself, and therefore was a solar deity. To explain where the sun goes at night, such pushing was extended to the underworld, Khepri's pushing of the sun being ceaseless.

              SO WHAT IS KEPHRA???

              I also notice various spellings - does this signify a difference in the Godform? (ie. Kephra, Khepra)

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              Avshalom Binyamin
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              I've always been a little confused about one thing on the moon card.

              The beetle on the bottom is not a scarab. A scarab is a short, squat beetle.

              The beetle on the Thoth deck moon card looks very much like a female Giant Harlequin Beetle, acrocinus longimanus (the male has even longer front legs).

              A picture of one

              I've never figured out why, since the beetle is native to the Americas...

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                What does Khephra represent?

                "There is a budding morrow in midnight", wrote Keats. For this reason there appears at the bottom of the card, underneath the water which is tinged with graphs of abomination, the sacred Beetle, the Egyptian Khephra, bearing in his mandibles the Solar Disk. It is this Beetle that bears the Sun in his Silence through the darkness of Night and the bitterness of Winter. - BOT, The Moon Card

                ...while Nun is the Eagle of sexual Ecstasy, the Serpent of Life through Death, the Scorpion or Scarab of Kephra, the Womb which transmutes through corruption... - CEPHALOEDIUM Working

                If I say "Come up upon the mountains!" the Celestial Waters shall flow at my Word.
                For I am Ra incarnate!
                Kephra created in the Flesh!
                I am the Eidolon of my father Tmu, Lord of the City of the Sun! - LIBER ISRAFEL

                Ra-Hoor is the Sun God; Tahuti is the Egyptian Mercury; Kephra is the Sun at midnight. - Magick Without Tears, Letter C

                I notice that there are 3 instances of Kephra (spelled Khephra) in 777:
                Table XIX: Selection of Egyptian Gods
                Row 18, 24 and 29 (as Scarab in Tarot Trump)

                Liber AL - 74. There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son

                Old Comment:
                Perhaps refers to the addition of the name to 418. But Khephra is the Sun at midnight in the North. Now in the North is Taurus, the Bull, Apis the Redeemer, the Son.

                And for some Wiki info on the scarab:

                Ancient Egyptian scarabs were popular amulets in ancient Egypt. According to ancient Egyption mythos, the sun (Ra) rolls across the sky each day and transforms bodies and souls. Modeled upon the Scarabaeidae family dung beetle, which rolls dung into a ball for the purposes of laying eggs (which would be later transformed into larva), the scarab was seen as an earthly symbol of this heavenly cycle. This came to be iconographic, and ideological symbols were incorporated into Ancient Egyptian society.

                And

                In Egyptian mythology, Khepri (also spelled Khepera, Kheper, Chepri, Khepra) is the name of a major god. Khepri is associated with the dung beetle (kheper), whose behavior of maintaining spherical balls of dung represents the forces which move the sun. Khepri gradually came to be considered as an embodiment of the sun itself, and therefore was a solar deity. To explain where the sun goes at night, such pushing was extended to the underworld, Khepri's pushing of the sun being ceaseless.

                SO WHAT IS KEPHRA???

                I also notice various spellings - does this signify a difference in the Godform? (ie. Kephra, Khepra)

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                My guess is... Lady Harris didn't know the difference.

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                  What does Khephra represent?

                  "There is a budding morrow in midnight", wrote Keats. For this reason there appears at the bottom of the card, underneath the water which is tinged with graphs of abomination, the sacred Beetle, the Egyptian Khephra, bearing in his mandibles the Solar Disk. It is this Beetle that bears the Sun in his Silence through the darkness of Night and the bitterness of Winter. - BOT, The Moon Card

                  ...while Nun is the Eagle of sexual Ecstasy, the Serpent of Life through Death, the Scorpion or Scarab of Kephra, the Womb which transmutes through corruption... - CEPHALOEDIUM Working

                  If I say "Come up upon the mountains!" the Celestial Waters shall flow at my Word.
                  For I am Ra incarnate!
                  Kephra created in the Flesh!
                  I am the Eidolon of my father Tmu, Lord of the City of the Sun! - LIBER ISRAFEL

                  Ra-Hoor is the Sun God; Tahuti is the Egyptian Mercury; Kephra is the Sun at midnight. - Magick Without Tears, Letter C

                  I notice that there are 3 instances of Kephra (spelled Khephra) in 777:
                  Table XIX: Selection of Egyptian Gods
                  Row 18, 24 and 29 (as Scarab in Tarot Trump)

                  Liber AL - 74. There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son

                  Old Comment:
                  Perhaps refers to the addition of the name to 418. But Khephra is the Sun at midnight in the North. Now in the North is Taurus, the Bull, Apis the Redeemer, the Son.

                  And for some Wiki info on the scarab:

                  Ancient Egyptian scarabs were popular amulets in ancient Egypt. According to ancient Egyption mythos, the sun (Ra) rolls across the sky each day and transforms bodies and souls. Modeled upon the Scarabaeidae family dung beetle, which rolls dung into a ball for the purposes of laying eggs (which would be later transformed into larva), the scarab was seen as an earthly symbol of this heavenly cycle. This came to be iconographic, and ideological symbols were incorporated into Ancient Egyptian society.

                  And

                  In Egyptian mythology, Khepri (also spelled Khepera, Kheper, Chepri, Khepra) is the name of a major god. Khepri is associated with the dung beetle (kheper), whose behavior of maintaining spherical balls of dung represents the forces which move the sun. Khepri gradually came to be considered as an embodiment of the sun itself, and therefore was a solar deity. To explain where the sun goes at night, such pushing was extended to the underworld, Khepri's pushing of the sun being ceaseless.

                  SO WHAT IS KEPHRA???

                  I also notice various spellings - does this signify a difference in the Godform? (ie. Kephra, Khepra)

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                  That's what I would guess too, but....

                  Everything else in the deck is so detailed, and every small detail rich with meeting.
                  The beetle in the deck is anything BUT a common/generic beetle (it certainly wasn't found in England outside of a collection, or a drawing)
                  Egyptian motifs were rather commonplace in England at the time, as was, I'm sure the winged scarab, with the sun:
                  http://www.scarletwoman.org/scarletletter/v4n4/images_v4n4/tut_scarab.gif

                  Additionally, the harlequin motif may exist in at least one more place in the Thoth deck: Adjustment.

                  Between the harlequin pattern on her legs (under a diaphanous material) and surrounding the large diamond, and her mask (not blindfold), I wonder if there is a link...

                  http://www.ritualmagick.org/Adjustment+-+Thoth

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                    What does Khephra represent?

                    "There is a budding morrow in midnight", wrote Keats. For this reason there appears at the bottom of the card, underneath the water which is tinged with graphs of abomination, the sacred Beetle, the Egyptian Khephra, bearing in his mandibles the Solar Disk. It is this Beetle that bears the Sun in his Silence through the darkness of Night and the bitterness of Winter. - BOT, The Moon Card

                    ...while Nun is the Eagle of sexual Ecstasy, the Serpent of Life through Death, the Scorpion or Scarab of Kephra, the Womb which transmutes through corruption... - CEPHALOEDIUM Working

                    If I say "Come up upon the mountains!" the Celestial Waters shall flow at my Word.
                    For I am Ra incarnate!
                    Kephra created in the Flesh!
                    I am the Eidolon of my father Tmu, Lord of the City of the Sun! - LIBER ISRAFEL

                    Ra-Hoor is the Sun God; Tahuti is the Egyptian Mercury; Kephra is the Sun at midnight. - Magick Without Tears, Letter C

                    I notice that there are 3 instances of Kephra (spelled Khephra) in 777:
                    Table XIX: Selection of Egyptian Gods
                    Row 18, 24 and 29 (as Scarab in Tarot Trump)

                    Liber AL - 74. There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son

                    Old Comment:
                    Perhaps refers to the addition of the name to 418. But Khephra is the Sun at midnight in the North. Now in the North is Taurus, the Bull, Apis the Redeemer, the Son.

                    And for some Wiki info on the scarab:

                    Ancient Egyptian scarabs were popular amulets in ancient Egypt. According to ancient Egyption mythos, the sun (Ra) rolls across the sky each day and transforms bodies and souls. Modeled upon the Scarabaeidae family dung beetle, which rolls dung into a ball for the purposes of laying eggs (which would be later transformed into larva), the scarab was seen as an earthly symbol of this heavenly cycle. This came to be iconographic, and ideological symbols were incorporated into Ancient Egyptian society.

                    And

                    In Egyptian mythology, Khepri (also spelled Khepera, Kheper, Chepri, Khepra) is the name of a major god. Khepri is associated with the dung beetle (kheper), whose behavior of maintaining spherical balls of dung represents the forces which move the sun. Khepri gradually came to be considered as an embodiment of the sun itself, and therefore was a solar deity. To explain where the sun goes at night, such pushing was extended to the underworld, Khepri's pushing of the sun being ceaseless.

                    SO WHAT IS KEPHRA???

                    I also notice various spellings - does this signify a difference in the Godform? (ie. Kephra, Khepra)

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                    @AvshalomBinyamin said

                    "Everything else in the deck is so detailed, and every small detail rich with meeting."

                    Actually, I think that's a trouble point. I almost (in my last answer) added some remarks about people who obsess about the fine points in the artwork. Crowley didn't design the deck, Harris did, and AC then gave it a nod (and sometimes asked for changes). And even if he had minutely designed it, it's still only one visual angle of the idea of the cards. These cards are at least as much artwork as occult symbolism, and I think it generally better to look at the broad strokes and not get too concerned with fine points.

                    In fact, I prefer to teach Tarot independent of any particular deck - so that students have a thoroughly good idea of what a card must be about without looking at any rendering of it - and then bring a particular deck in to see how those ideas are implemented. (But that's almost a digression.)

                    "Additionally, the harlequin motif may exist in at least one more place in the Thoth deck: Adjustment."

                    If you also found one on The Hierophant, I'd be impressed! πŸ˜‰

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                      What does Khephra represent?

                      "There is a budding morrow in midnight", wrote Keats. For this reason there appears at the bottom of the card, underneath the water which is tinged with graphs of abomination, the sacred Beetle, the Egyptian Khephra, bearing in his mandibles the Solar Disk. It is this Beetle that bears the Sun in his Silence through the darkness of Night and the bitterness of Winter. - BOT, The Moon Card

                      ...while Nun is the Eagle of sexual Ecstasy, the Serpent of Life through Death, the Scorpion or Scarab of Kephra, the Womb which transmutes through corruption... - CEPHALOEDIUM Working

                      If I say "Come up upon the mountains!" the Celestial Waters shall flow at my Word.
                      For I am Ra incarnate!
                      Kephra created in the Flesh!
                      I am the Eidolon of my father Tmu, Lord of the City of the Sun! - LIBER ISRAFEL

                      Ra-Hoor is the Sun God; Tahuti is the Egyptian Mercury; Kephra is the Sun at midnight. - Magick Without Tears, Letter C

                      I notice that there are 3 instances of Kephra (spelled Khephra) in 777:
                      Table XIX: Selection of Egyptian Gods
                      Row 18, 24 and 29 (as Scarab in Tarot Trump)

                      Liber AL - 74. There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son

                      Old Comment:
                      Perhaps refers to the addition of the name to 418. But Khephra is the Sun at midnight in the North. Now in the North is Taurus, the Bull, Apis the Redeemer, the Son.

                      And for some Wiki info on the scarab:

                      Ancient Egyptian scarabs were popular amulets in ancient Egypt. According to ancient Egyption mythos, the sun (Ra) rolls across the sky each day and transforms bodies and souls. Modeled upon the Scarabaeidae family dung beetle, which rolls dung into a ball for the purposes of laying eggs (which would be later transformed into larva), the scarab was seen as an earthly symbol of this heavenly cycle. This came to be iconographic, and ideological symbols were incorporated into Ancient Egyptian society.

                      And

                      In Egyptian mythology, Khepri (also spelled Khepera, Kheper, Chepri, Khepra) is the name of a major god. Khepri is associated with the dung beetle (kheper), whose behavior of maintaining spherical balls of dung represents the forces which move the sun. Khepri gradually came to be considered as an embodiment of the sun itself, and therefore was a solar deity. To explain where the sun goes at night, such pushing was extended to the underworld, Khepri's pushing of the sun being ceaseless.

                      SO WHAT IS KEPHRA???

                      I also notice various spellings - does this signify a difference in the Godform? (ie. Kephra, Khepra)

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                      @Jim Eshelman said

                      "If you also found one on The Hierophant, I'd be impressed! πŸ˜‰"

                      Just in the hiero's mask and the diamond pattern on the snake. But the diamond-back snake is on like a dozen cards, and it's not really part of his costume... so it's really pushing it...

                      (but if we're talking similarities between The Hierophant and The Moon, I go immediately to the 9 waw's on the one and the 9 yod's on the other... Great.. now I'm going to be searching for tiny artistic details, when maybe, like the Devil card, I should be taking a step back to look at it)

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                        What does Khephra represent?

                        "There is a budding morrow in midnight", wrote Keats. For this reason there appears at the bottom of the card, underneath the water which is tinged with graphs of abomination, the sacred Beetle, the Egyptian Khephra, bearing in his mandibles the Solar Disk. It is this Beetle that bears the Sun in his Silence through the darkness of Night and the bitterness of Winter. - BOT, The Moon Card

                        ...while Nun is the Eagle of sexual Ecstasy, the Serpent of Life through Death, the Scorpion or Scarab of Kephra, the Womb which transmutes through corruption... - CEPHALOEDIUM Working

                        If I say "Come up upon the mountains!" the Celestial Waters shall flow at my Word.
                        For I am Ra incarnate!
                        Kephra created in the Flesh!
                        I am the Eidolon of my father Tmu, Lord of the City of the Sun! - LIBER ISRAFEL

                        Ra-Hoor is the Sun God; Tahuti is the Egyptian Mercury; Kephra is the Sun at midnight. - Magick Without Tears, Letter C

                        I notice that there are 3 instances of Kephra (spelled Khephra) in 777:
                        Table XIX: Selection of Egyptian Gods
                        Row 18, 24 and 29 (as Scarab in Tarot Trump)

                        Liber AL - 74. There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son

                        Old Comment:
                        Perhaps refers to the addition of the name to 418. But Khephra is the Sun at midnight in the North. Now in the North is Taurus, the Bull, Apis the Redeemer, the Son.

                        And for some Wiki info on the scarab:

                        Ancient Egyptian scarabs were popular amulets in ancient Egypt. According to ancient Egyption mythos, the sun (Ra) rolls across the sky each day and transforms bodies and souls. Modeled upon the Scarabaeidae family dung beetle, which rolls dung into a ball for the purposes of laying eggs (which would be later transformed into larva), the scarab was seen as an earthly symbol of this heavenly cycle. This came to be iconographic, and ideological symbols were incorporated into Ancient Egyptian society.

                        And

                        In Egyptian mythology, Khepri (also spelled Khepera, Kheper, Chepri, Khepra) is the name of a major god. Khepri is associated with the dung beetle (kheper), whose behavior of maintaining spherical balls of dung represents the forces which move the sun. Khepri gradually came to be considered as an embodiment of the sun itself, and therefore was a solar deity. To explain where the sun goes at night, such pushing was extended to the underworld, Khepri's pushing of the sun being ceaseless.

                        SO WHAT IS KEPHRA???

                        I also notice various spellings - does this signify a difference in the Godform? (ie. Kephra, Khepra)

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                        The Egyptians came to associate Khephra with self-renewal and becoming through observing baby beetles coming out of the buried ball of dung.

                        Heart scarabs are designed to guard the heart of the dead to prevent them from confessing the wrong things during the psychostasis and 42 Negative Confessions.

                        As I see it, Khephra keeps the soul grounded in a Becoming and from identifying with the recently-finished incarnation and passing scenery. It’s a slow steady journey toward dawn. When you look back on your life and observe where you used to be against where you are now, that difference is the work of silent Khephra.

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                        • T Tinman

                          What does Khephra represent?

                          "There is a budding morrow in midnight", wrote Keats. For this reason there appears at the bottom of the card, underneath the water which is tinged with graphs of abomination, the sacred Beetle, the Egyptian Khephra, bearing in his mandibles the Solar Disk. It is this Beetle that bears the Sun in his Silence through the darkness of Night and the bitterness of Winter. - BOT, The Moon Card

                          ...while Nun is the Eagle of sexual Ecstasy, the Serpent of Life through Death, the Scorpion or Scarab of Kephra, the Womb which transmutes through corruption... - CEPHALOEDIUM Working

                          If I say "Come up upon the mountains!" the Celestial Waters shall flow at my Word.
                          For I am Ra incarnate!
                          Kephra created in the Flesh!
                          I am the Eidolon of my father Tmu, Lord of the City of the Sun! - LIBER ISRAFEL

                          Ra-Hoor is the Sun God; Tahuti is the Egyptian Mercury; Kephra is the Sun at midnight. - Magick Without Tears, Letter C

                          I notice that there are 3 instances of Kephra (spelled Khephra) in 777:
                          Table XIX: Selection of Egyptian Gods
                          Row 18, 24 and 29 (as Scarab in Tarot Trump)

                          Liber AL - 74. There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son

                          Old Comment:
                          Perhaps refers to the addition of the name to 418. But Khephra is the Sun at midnight in the North. Now in the North is Taurus, the Bull, Apis the Redeemer, the Son.

                          And for some Wiki info on the scarab:

                          Ancient Egyptian scarabs were popular amulets in ancient Egypt. According to ancient Egyption mythos, the sun (Ra) rolls across the sky each day and transforms bodies and souls. Modeled upon the Scarabaeidae family dung beetle, which rolls dung into a ball for the purposes of laying eggs (which would be later transformed into larva), the scarab was seen as an earthly symbol of this heavenly cycle. This came to be iconographic, and ideological symbols were incorporated into Ancient Egyptian society.

                          And

                          In Egyptian mythology, Khepri (also spelled Khepera, Kheper, Chepri, Khepra) is the name of a major god. Khepri is associated with the dung beetle (kheper), whose behavior of maintaining spherical balls of dung represents the forces which move the sun. Khepri gradually came to be considered as an embodiment of the sun itself, and therefore was a solar deity. To explain where the sun goes at night, such pushing was extended to the underworld, Khepri's pushing of the sun being ceaseless.

                          SO WHAT IS KEPHRA???

                          I also notice various spellings - does this signify a difference in the Godform? (ie. Kephra, Khepra)

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                          "SO WHAT IS KEPHRA???"

                          All of the above! πŸ˜€

                          As has been stated, he is an Egyptian aspect of the Sun, and bears the Sun through the underworld each night. In this aspect he is related to the Moon, as it is She who reflects the Sun's light in the darkness.

                          But remember: there is no definite attribution for anything, and every symbol takes part in every other. Of course, now the question arises: well, then why go through all the attributions? And to this the adept will probably reply: nothing!

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                            What does Khephra represent?

                            "There is a budding morrow in midnight", wrote Keats. For this reason there appears at the bottom of the card, underneath the water which is tinged with graphs of abomination, the sacred Beetle, the Egyptian Khephra, bearing in his mandibles the Solar Disk. It is this Beetle that bears the Sun in his Silence through the darkness of Night and the bitterness of Winter. - BOT, The Moon Card

                            ...while Nun is the Eagle of sexual Ecstasy, the Serpent of Life through Death, the Scorpion or Scarab of Kephra, the Womb which transmutes through corruption... - CEPHALOEDIUM Working

                            If I say "Come up upon the mountains!" the Celestial Waters shall flow at my Word.
                            For I am Ra incarnate!
                            Kephra created in the Flesh!
                            I am the Eidolon of my father Tmu, Lord of the City of the Sun! - LIBER ISRAFEL

                            Ra-Hoor is the Sun God; Tahuti is the Egyptian Mercury; Kephra is the Sun at midnight. - Magick Without Tears, Letter C

                            I notice that there are 3 instances of Kephra (spelled Khephra) in 777:
                            Table XIX: Selection of Egyptian Gods
                            Row 18, 24 and 29 (as Scarab in Tarot Trump)

                            Liber AL - 74. There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son

                            Old Comment:
                            Perhaps refers to the addition of the name to 418. But Khephra is the Sun at midnight in the North. Now in the North is Taurus, the Bull, Apis the Redeemer, the Son.

                            And for some Wiki info on the scarab:

                            Ancient Egyptian scarabs were popular amulets in ancient Egypt. According to ancient Egyption mythos, the sun (Ra) rolls across the sky each day and transforms bodies and souls. Modeled upon the Scarabaeidae family dung beetle, which rolls dung into a ball for the purposes of laying eggs (which would be later transformed into larva), the scarab was seen as an earthly symbol of this heavenly cycle. This came to be iconographic, and ideological symbols were incorporated into Ancient Egyptian society.

                            And

                            In Egyptian mythology, Khepri (also spelled Khepera, Kheper, Chepri, Khepra) is the name of a major god. Khepri is associated with the dung beetle (kheper), whose behavior of maintaining spherical balls of dung represents the forces which move the sun. Khepri gradually came to be considered as an embodiment of the sun itself, and therefore was a solar deity. To explain where the sun goes at night, such pushing was extended to the underworld, Khepri's pushing of the sun being ceaseless.

                            SO WHAT IS KEPHRA???

                            I also notice various spellings - does this signify a difference in the Godform? (ie. Kephra, Khepra)

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                            This wasn't the quote I was looking for but it serves alright instead:

                            "Having once reduce Lao Tze to Qabalistic form, it was easy to translate the result into the language of philosophy. I had already done much to create a new language based on English with the assistance of a few technical terms borrowed from Asia, and above all by the use of a novel conception of the idea of Number and algebraic and arithmetical proceedings, to convey the results of spiritual experience to intelligent students. - The Tao Teh King by Crowley"

                            As I remember it... Crowley said it somewhere else, too; that he was creating a language with which it becomes possible to as accurately as possible communicate mystical and magical "truths".

                            I understand what you are saying when you say: "there is no definite attribution for anything, and every symbol takes part in every other" ...

                            However on another plane - I have this stubborn theory that Crowley was using specific symbols to communicate specific ideas. I am trying to break through the curse of babel to try to understand what, for example, this means:

                            "But Khephra is the Sun at midnight in the North"

                            in terms of:
                            the physical plane
                            the emotional plane
                            the mental plane
                            the spiritual plane

                            For instance, the expression "Sun at midnight" for me evokes the following thoughts (off the top of my head):
                            the physical plane = when body rebels against conscious control - hang overs - disease
                            the emotional plane = paranoia, hate, fear, disgust
                            the mental plane = me right now not getting it, having no idea or opinion, the opposite of eureka moments
                            the spiritual plane = dark night of the soul, when we feel a lack of the divine in our lives

                            To expand into the original quote a little deeper: "in the North":
                            Crowley says:

                            "in the North is Taurus, the Bull, Apis the Redeemer, the Son."

                            the physical plane = physical endurance, earth, dust to dust, ashes to ashes
                            the emotional plane = emotional strength, satisfaction from work
                            the mental plane = stubborness, teaching
                            the spiritual plane = illuminating

                            So putting it all together, I would say that Khepra on the Moon card, is a glyph of what Crowley writes in Thoth:
                            "How splendid is the Adventure!", or as Robert Anton Wilson mentions in a mantra in Illuminatus: "Just Do Go Ahead". Khepra then seems to be the Godform we might invoke during the darker hours of our lives, in an attempt to remember that time marches inevitably forward, and to draw strength to face our fears, prejudices, and hangups. We all come from the earth and the to the earth we return (bugs make me think of decomposing flesh and how the death of one thing is the gateway of another form of life). I also think the bug archetype taps into the most alien part of ourselves (as opposed to Icke and his lizards) and it's this symbol that is represented by "the sun at midnight".

                            I see the Khepra symbol in the Moon card as telling us about "moving forward", but also as a "teacher". As the God of the Dead and Resurrection, maybe Khepra will visit me today as I seem to be dead in the head when it comes to this topic, and I need some help with a new way of looking at it that will breath new life into me. The chariot card, which I still see as a mirror of Khepra, I see in a similar way. HOWEVER, Khepra is facing up and moving away from us in the tarot card, while the charioteer is facing us. So my random off the cuff take on that is that Khepra represents teachers, Crowley for instance, as seen from low on the TOL (how the masses might see him). This is the demon Crowley, a bug, but holding up the sun as a symbol for worship. The charioteer is a mighty knight warrior whom we hold in high regard (Crowley, or other teachers seen from higher on the TOL), and in this instance the teacher presents the cup of babalon as the symbol for worship.

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                              What does Khephra represent?

                              "There is a budding morrow in midnight", wrote Keats. For this reason there appears at the bottom of the card, underneath the water which is tinged with graphs of abomination, the sacred Beetle, the Egyptian Khephra, bearing in his mandibles the Solar Disk. It is this Beetle that bears the Sun in his Silence through the darkness of Night and the bitterness of Winter. - BOT, The Moon Card

                              ...while Nun is the Eagle of sexual Ecstasy, the Serpent of Life through Death, the Scorpion or Scarab of Kephra, the Womb which transmutes through corruption... - CEPHALOEDIUM Working

                              If I say "Come up upon the mountains!" the Celestial Waters shall flow at my Word.
                              For I am Ra incarnate!
                              Kephra created in the Flesh!
                              I am the Eidolon of my father Tmu, Lord of the City of the Sun! - LIBER ISRAFEL

                              Ra-Hoor is the Sun God; Tahuti is the Egyptian Mercury; Kephra is the Sun at midnight. - Magick Without Tears, Letter C

                              I notice that there are 3 instances of Kephra (spelled Khephra) in 777:
                              Table XIX: Selection of Egyptian Gods
                              Row 18, 24 and 29 (as Scarab in Tarot Trump)

                              Liber AL - 74. There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son

                              Old Comment:
                              Perhaps refers to the addition of the name to 418. But Khephra is the Sun at midnight in the North. Now in the North is Taurus, the Bull, Apis the Redeemer, the Son.

                              And for some Wiki info on the scarab:

                              Ancient Egyptian scarabs were popular amulets in ancient Egypt. According to ancient Egyption mythos, the sun (Ra) rolls across the sky each day and transforms bodies and souls. Modeled upon the Scarabaeidae family dung beetle, which rolls dung into a ball for the purposes of laying eggs (which would be later transformed into larva), the scarab was seen as an earthly symbol of this heavenly cycle. This came to be iconographic, and ideological symbols were incorporated into Ancient Egyptian society.

                              And

                              In Egyptian mythology, Khepri (also spelled Khepera, Kheper, Chepri, Khepra) is the name of a major god. Khepri is associated with the dung beetle (kheper), whose behavior of maintaining spherical balls of dung represents the forces which move the sun. Khepri gradually came to be considered as an embodiment of the sun itself, and therefore was a solar deity. To explain where the sun goes at night, such pushing was extended to the underworld, Khepri's pushing of the sun being ceaseless.

                              SO WHAT IS KEPHRA???

                              I also notice various spellings - does this signify a difference in the Godform? (ie. Kephra, Khepra)

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                              @Tinman said

                              "As I remember it... Crowley said it somewhere else, too; that he was creating a language with which it becomes possible to as accurately as possible communicate mystical and magical "truths"."

                              Yes. That's very close to the quote. It might have been in the commentary to Liber LXV. (If not, then LXV and its commentary are certainly examples of its application.)

                              "I understand what you are saying when you say: "there is no definite attribution for anything, and every symbol takes part in every other" ...

                              However on another plane - I have this stubborn theory that Crowley was using specific symbols to communicate specific ideas. I am trying to break through the curse of babel to try to understand what, for example, this means:"

                              Probably not symbols. I'm sure he meant that he was creating literal, verbal language for this purpose. But, on a somewhat different note, I do think (agree?) that the "every symbol blends into every other" approach (I know that I paraphrase) isn't entirely true and, in any case, isn't very useful even to the extent that it is true.

                              OTOH, we are admonished at the very beginning of the path that, when encounteirng the name of any god, not to mistake it for any god whatsoever except that ONE known to us individually. In this sense, all gods eventually become equal (even if all symbols do not).

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                                What does Khephra represent?

                                "There is a budding morrow in midnight", wrote Keats. For this reason there appears at the bottom of the card, underneath the water which is tinged with graphs of abomination, the sacred Beetle, the Egyptian Khephra, bearing in his mandibles the Solar Disk. It is this Beetle that bears the Sun in his Silence through the darkness of Night and the bitterness of Winter. - BOT, The Moon Card

                                ...while Nun is the Eagle of sexual Ecstasy, the Serpent of Life through Death, the Scorpion or Scarab of Kephra, the Womb which transmutes through corruption... - CEPHALOEDIUM Working

                                If I say "Come up upon the mountains!" the Celestial Waters shall flow at my Word.
                                For I am Ra incarnate!
                                Kephra created in the Flesh!
                                I am the Eidolon of my father Tmu, Lord of the City of the Sun! - LIBER ISRAFEL

                                Ra-Hoor is the Sun God; Tahuti is the Egyptian Mercury; Kephra is the Sun at midnight. - Magick Without Tears, Letter C

                                I notice that there are 3 instances of Kephra (spelled Khephra) in 777:
                                Table XIX: Selection of Egyptian Gods
                                Row 18, 24 and 29 (as Scarab in Tarot Trump)

                                Liber AL - 74. There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son

                                Old Comment:
                                Perhaps refers to the addition of the name to 418. But Khephra is the Sun at midnight in the North. Now in the North is Taurus, the Bull, Apis the Redeemer, the Son.

                                And for some Wiki info on the scarab:

                                Ancient Egyptian scarabs were popular amulets in ancient Egypt. According to ancient Egyption mythos, the sun (Ra) rolls across the sky each day and transforms bodies and souls. Modeled upon the Scarabaeidae family dung beetle, which rolls dung into a ball for the purposes of laying eggs (which would be later transformed into larva), the scarab was seen as an earthly symbol of this heavenly cycle. This came to be iconographic, and ideological symbols were incorporated into Ancient Egyptian society.

                                And

                                In Egyptian mythology, Khepri (also spelled Khepera, Kheper, Chepri, Khepra) is the name of a major god. Khepri is associated with the dung beetle (kheper), whose behavior of maintaining spherical balls of dung represents the forces which move the sun. Khepri gradually came to be considered as an embodiment of the sun itself, and therefore was a solar deity. To explain where the sun goes at night, such pushing was extended to the underworld, Khepri's pushing of the sun being ceaseless.

                                SO WHAT IS KEPHRA???

                                I also notice various spellings - does this signify a difference in the Godform? (ie. Kephra, Khepra)

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                                @Jim Eshelman said

                                "OTOH, we are admonished at the very beginning of the path that, when encounteirng the name of any god, not to mistake it for any god whatsoever except that ONE known to us individually. In this sense, all gods eventually become equal (even if all symbols do not)."

                                Do you mean to remember that we're interacting with our personal/internal conception of each god we "encounter"; or do you mean to remember that each god you encounter is really your own hga? (or something else...)

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                                  What does Khephra represent?

                                  "There is a budding morrow in midnight", wrote Keats. For this reason there appears at the bottom of the card, underneath the water which is tinged with graphs of abomination, the sacred Beetle, the Egyptian Khephra, bearing in his mandibles the Solar Disk. It is this Beetle that bears the Sun in his Silence through the darkness of Night and the bitterness of Winter. - BOT, The Moon Card

                                  ...while Nun is the Eagle of sexual Ecstasy, the Serpent of Life through Death, the Scorpion or Scarab of Kephra, the Womb which transmutes through corruption... - CEPHALOEDIUM Working

                                  If I say "Come up upon the mountains!" the Celestial Waters shall flow at my Word.
                                  For I am Ra incarnate!
                                  Kephra created in the Flesh!
                                  I am the Eidolon of my father Tmu, Lord of the City of the Sun! - LIBER ISRAFEL

                                  Ra-Hoor is the Sun God; Tahuti is the Egyptian Mercury; Kephra is the Sun at midnight. - Magick Without Tears, Letter C

                                  I notice that there are 3 instances of Kephra (spelled Khephra) in 777:
                                  Table XIX: Selection of Egyptian Gods
                                  Row 18, 24 and 29 (as Scarab in Tarot Trump)

                                  Liber AL - 74. There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son

                                  Old Comment:
                                  Perhaps refers to the addition of the name to 418. But Khephra is the Sun at midnight in the North. Now in the North is Taurus, the Bull, Apis the Redeemer, the Son.

                                  And for some Wiki info on the scarab:

                                  Ancient Egyptian scarabs were popular amulets in ancient Egypt. According to ancient Egyption mythos, the sun (Ra) rolls across the sky each day and transforms bodies and souls. Modeled upon the Scarabaeidae family dung beetle, which rolls dung into a ball for the purposes of laying eggs (which would be later transformed into larva), the scarab was seen as an earthly symbol of this heavenly cycle. This came to be iconographic, and ideological symbols were incorporated into Ancient Egyptian society.

                                  And

                                  In Egyptian mythology, Khepri (also spelled Khepera, Kheper, Chepri, Khepra) is the name of a major god. Khepri is associated with the dung beetle (kheper), whose behavior of maintaining spherical balls of dung represents the forces which move the sun. Khepri gradually came to be considered as an embodiment of the sun itself, and therefore was a solar deity. To explain where the sun goes at night, such pushing was extended to the underworld, Khepri's pushing of the sun being ceaseless.

                                  SO WHAT IS KEPHRA???

                                  I also notice various spellings - does this signify a difference in the Godform? (ie. Kephra, Khepra)

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                                  @AvshalomBinyamin said

                                  "
                                  @Jim Eshelman said
                                  "OTOH, we are admonished at the very beginning of the path that, when encounteirng the name of any god, not to mistake it for any god whatsoever except that ONE known to us individually. In this sense, all gods eventually become equal (even if all symbols do not)."

                                  Do you mean to remember that we're interacting with our personal/internal conception of each god we "encounter"; or do you mean to remember that each god you encounter is really your own hga? (or something else...)"

                                  The sentence I quoted is so critical at an early, pivotal point on the Path, that I'd rather leave it as stated rather than turn that particular one into dialectic.

                                  I know you know the answer to your own question, though.

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                                    What does Khephra represent?

                                    "There is a budding morrow in midnight", wrote Keats. For this reason there appears at the bottom of the card, underneath the water which is tinged with graphs of abomination, the sacred Beetle, the Egyptian Khephra, bearing in his mandibles the Solar Disk. It is this Beetle that bears the Sun in his Silence through the darkness of Night and the bitterness of Winter. - BOT, The Moon Card

                                    ...while Nun is the Eagle of sexual Ecstasy, the Serpent of Life through Death, the Scorpion or Scarab of Kephra, the Womb which transmutes through corruption... - CEPHALOEDIUM Working

                                    If I say "Come up upon the mountains!" the Celestial Waters shall flow at my Word.
                                    For I am Ra incarnate!
                                    Kephra created in the Flesh!
                                    I am the Eidolon of my father Tmu, Lord of the City of the Sun! - LIBER ISRAFEL

                                    Ra-Hoor is the Sun God; Tahuti is the Egyptian Mercury; Kephra is the Sun at midnight. - Magick Without Tears, Letter C

                                    I notice that there are 3 instances of Kephra (spelled Khephra) in 777:
                                    Table XIX: Selection of Egyptian Gods
                                    Row 18, 24 and 29 (as Scarab in Tarot Trump)

                                    Liber AL - 74. There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son

                                    Old Comment:
                                    Perhaps refers to the addition of the name to 418. But Khephra is the Sun at midnight in the North. Now in the North is Taurus, the Bull, Apis the Redeemer, the Son.

                                    And for some Wiki info on the scarab:

                                    Ancient Egyptian scarabs were popular amulets in ancient Egypt. According to ancient Egyption mythos, the sun (Ra) rolls across the sky each day and transforms bodies and souls. Modeled upon the Scarabaeidae family dung beetle, which rolls dung into a ball for the purposes of laying eggs (which would be later transformed into larva), the scarab was seen as an earthly symbol of this heavenly cycle. This came to be iconographic, and ideological symbols were incorporated into Ancient Egyptian society.

                                    And

                                    In Egyptian mythology, Khepri (also spelled Khepera, Kheper, Chepri, Khepra) is the name of a major god. Khepri is associated with the dung beetle (kheper), whose behavior of maintaining spherical balls of dung represents the forces which move the sun. Khepri gradually came to be considered as an embodiment of the sun itself, and therefore was a solar deity. To explain where the sun goes at night, such pushing was extended to the underworld, Khepri's pushing of the sun being ceaseless.

                                    SO WHAT IS KEPHRA???

                                    I also notice various spellings - does this signify a difference in the Godform? (ie. Kephra, Khepra)

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                                    "Debate not of the image, saying Beyond! Beyond!" πŸ˜€

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                                      What does Khephra represent?

                                      "There is a budding morrow in midnight", wrote Keats. For this reason there appears at the bottom of the card, underneath the water which is tinged with graphs of abomination, the sacred Beetle, the Egyptian Khephra, bearing in his mandibles the Solar Disk. It is this Beetle that bears the Sun in his Silence through the darkness of Night and the bitterness of Winter. - BOT, The Moon Card

                                      ...while Nun is the Eagle of sexual Ecstasy, the Serpent of Life through Death, the Scorpion or Scarab of Kephra, the Womb which transmutes through corruption... - CEPHALOEDIUM Working

                                      If I say "Come up upon the mountains!" the Celestial Waters shall flow at my Word.
                                      For I am Ra incarnate!
                                      Kephra created in the Flesh!
                                      I am the Eidolon of my father Tmu, Lord of the City of the Sun! - LIBER ISRAFEL

                                      Ra-Hoor is the Sun God; Tahuti is the Egyptian Mercury; Kephra is the Sun at midnight. - Magick Without Tears, Letter C

                                      I notice that there are 3 instances of Kephra (spelled Khephra) in 777:
                                      Table XIX: Selection of Egyptian Gods
                                      Row 18, 24 and 29 (as Scarab in Tarot Trump)

                                      Liber AL - 74. There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son

                                      Old Comment:
                                      Perhaps refers to the addition of the name to 418. But Khephra is the Sun at midnight in the North. Now in the North is Taurus, the Bull, Apis the Redeemer, the Son.

                                      And for some Wiki info on the scarab:

                                      Ancient Egyptian scarabs were popular amulets in ancient Egypt. According to ancient Egyption mythos, the sun (Ra) rolls across the sky each day and transforms bodies and souls. Modeled upon the Scarabaeidae family dung beetle, which rolls dung into a ball for the purposes of laying eggs (which would be later transformed into larva), the scarab was seen as an earthly symbol of this heavenly cycle. This came to be iconographic, and ideological symbols were incorporated into Ancient Egyptian society.

                                      And

                                      In Egyptian mythology, Khepri (also spelled Khepera, Kheper, Chepri, Khepra) is the name of a major god. Khepri is associated with the dung beetle (kheper), whose behavior of maintaining spherical balls of dung represents the forces which move the sun. Khepri gradually came to be considered as an embodiment of the sun itself, and therefore was a solar deity. To explain where the sun goes at night, such pushing was extended to the underworld, Khepri's pushing of the sun being ceaseless.

                                      SO WHAT IS KEPHRA???

                                      I also notice various spellings - does this signify a difference in the Godform? (ie. Kephra, Khepra)

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                                      There have been others, to be sure. There are always others. But you know, Mr. Burton, the difficulties between WoMen and Gods. How seldom it works out? Yet we all keep trying, like fools.

                                      "Atu XVIII shews that Life appearing in the Waters of Midnight, Kephra in the Pool of Great Dark Sea - 19th Aethyr"

                                      "Yet again, Apis the Bull of Khem hath Kephra the Beetle upon His tongue, which signifieth that it is by this Will, and by this Work, that the Sun cometh unto Dawn from Midnight - Aleph, ch153"

                                      "I beheld also Kephra, the Beetle God, the Glory of Midnight. - John St. John"

                                      "If I say β€œcome up upon the mountains,”
                                      The Celestial waters shall flow at my word;
                                      For I am Ra incarnate,
                                      Kephra created in the flesh!

                                      • The Rite of Mercury"
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                                      • T Tinman

                                        What does Khephra represent?

                                        "There is a budding morrow in midnight", wrote Keats. For this reason there appears at the bottom of the card, underneath the water which is tinged with graphs of abomination, the sacred Beetle, the Egyptian Khephra, bearing in his mandibles the Solar Disk. It is this Beetle that bears the Sun in his Silence through the darkness of Night and the bitterness of Winter. - BOT, The Moon Card

                                        ...while Nun is the Eagle of sexual Ecstasy, the Serpent of Life through Death, the Scorpion or Scarab of Kephra, the Womb which transmutes through corruption... - CEPHALOEDIUM Working

                                        If I say "Come up upon the mountains!" the Celestial Waters shall flow at my Word.
                                        For I am Ra incarnate!
                                        Kephra created in the Flesh!
                                        I am the Eidolon of my father Tmu, Lord of the City of the Sun! - LIBER ISRAFEL

                                        Ra-Hoor is the Sun God; Tahuti is the Egyptian Mercury; Kephra is the Sun at midnight. - Magick Without Tears, Letter C

                                        I notice that there are 3 instances of Kephra (spelled Khephra) in 777:
                                        Table XIX: Selection of Egyptian Gods
                                        Row 18, 24 and 29 (as Scarab in Tarot Trump)

                                        Liber AL - 74. There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son

                                        Old Comment:
                                        Perhaps refers to the addition of the name to 418. But Khephra is the Sun at midnight in the North. Now in the North is Taurus, the Bull, Apis the Redeemer, the Son.

                                        And for some Wiki info on the scarab:

                                        Ancient Egyptian scarabs were popular amulets in ancient Egypt. According to ancient Egyption mythos, the sun (Ra) rolls across the sky each day and transforms bodies and souls. Modeled upon the Scarabaeidae family dung beetle, which rolls dung into a ball for the purposes of laying eggs (which would be later transformed into larva), the scarab was seen as an earthly symbol of this heavenly cycle. This came to be iconographic, and ideological symbols were incorporated into Ancient Egyptian society.

                                        And

                                        In Egyptian mythology, Khepri (also spelled Khepera, Kheper, Chepri, Khepra) is the name of a major god. Khepri is associated with the dung beetle (kheper), whose behavior of maintaining spherical balls of dung represents the forces which move the sun. Khepri gradually came to be considered as an embodiment of the sun itself, and therefore was a solar deity. To explain where the sun goes at night, such pushing was extended to the underworld, Khepri's pushing of the sun being ceaseless.

                                        SO WHAT IS KEPHRA???

                                        I also notice various spellings - does this signify a difference in the Godform? (ie. Kephra, Khepra)

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                                        @Jim Eshelman said

                                        "If you also found one on The Hierophant, I'd be impressed! πŸ˜‰"

                                        Its on the roof of his mouth. πŸ˜‰

                                        729

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                                          What does Khephra represent?

                                          "There is a budding morrow in midnight", wrote Keats. For this reason there appears at the bottom of the card, underneath the water which is tinged with graphs of abomination, the sacred Beetle, the Egyptian Khephra, bearing in his mandibles the Solar Disk. It is this Beetle that bears the Sun in his Silence through the darkness of Night and the bitterness of Winter. - BOT, The Moon Card

                                          ...while Nun is the Eagle of sexual Ecstasy, the Serpent of Life through Death, the Scorpion or Scarab of Kephra, the Womb which transmutes through corruption... - CEPHALOEDIUM Working

                                          If I say "Come up upon the mountains!" the Celestial Waters shall flow at my Word.
                                          For I am Ra incarnate!
                                          Kephra created in the Flesh!
                                          I am the Eidolon of my father Tmu, Lord of the City of the Sun! - LIBER ISRAFEL

                                          Ra-Hoor is the Sun God; Tahuti is the Egyptian Mercury; Kephra is the Sun at midnight. - Magick Without Tears, Letter C

                                          I notice that there are 3 instances of Kephra (spelled Khephra) in 777:
                                          Table XIX: Selection of Egyptian Gods
                                          Row 18, 24 and 29 (as Scarab in Tarot Trump)

                                          Liber AL - 74. There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son

                                          Old Comment:
                                          Perhaps refers to the addition of the name to 418. But Khephra is the Sun at midnight in the North. Now in the North is Taurus, the Bull, Apis the Redeemer, the Son.

                                          And for some Wiki info on the scarab:

                                          Ancient Egyptian scarabs were popular amulets in ancient Egypt. According to ancient Egyption mythos, the sun (Ra) rolls across the sky each day and transforms bodies and souls. Modeled upon the Scarabaeidae family dung beetle, which rolls dung into a ball for the purposes of laying eggs (which would be later transformed into larva), the scarab was seen as an earthly symbol of this heavenly cycle. This came to be iconographic, and ideological symbols were incorporated into Ancient Egyptian society.

                                          And

                                          In Egyptian mythology, Khepri (also spelled Khepera, Kheper, Chepri, Khepra) is the name of a major god. Khepri is associated with the dung beetle (kheper), whose behavior of maintaining spherical balls of dung represents the forces which move the sun. Khepri gradually came to be considered as an embodiment of the sun itself, and therefore was a solar deity. To explain where the sun goes at night, such pushing was extended to the underworld, Khepri's pushing of the sun being ceaseless.

                                          SO WHAT IS KEPHRA???

                                          I also notice various spellings - does this signify a difference in the Godform? (ie. Kephra, Khepra)

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                                          Avshalom Binyamin
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                                          Or the harlequin patterns of the priestess at bottom, center.

                                          Bring me through midnight to the sun πŸ˜‰

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