Assiah
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@Alrah said
"Is the 'mind' in the formative world behind (within) the 'brain' in the manifest world?"
That would be the usual expression, yes. (But not all of mind. Some 'mind' is Briatic.)
Assiah vs. Yetzirah is the old "matter vs. spirit" arguement of past eras and philosophies, the "body and blood of Christ" dual components, the bread vs. the wine.
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" Assiah also includes borderland areas, generally termed "etheric" - that aspect of the "non-material" which, nonetheless, conforms in essential shape and disposition to the physical universe."
You speak of the ether of science, the energy that they theorize allows the material universe to exist in-tact. A substance yet to have been measured or observed, but a theory that continues to this day.
I understand the basics on all which you say, I just wished to get a little clearer understanding of it. Thank you.
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I think it's not the ether of science, but more something like ''the lowest astral'', universal 'akasha-substance' which is closest to the matterial plane.
I. Regardie wrote about that in Chapter 4 of his ''Tree of life'' (similarities and difference between magickal etheric susbstance and ether of science)
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I don't have my diary directly with me, but I came to a similar conclusion on the astral realms, and the higher realms, a couple months ago. So you don't think the ether has anything to do with the astral?
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@danica said
"I think it's not the ether of science, but more something like ''the lowest astral'', universal 'akasha-substance' which is closest to the matterial plane."
Yes. Exactly.
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@FiliusBestia said
"I don't have my diary directly with me, but I came to a similar conclusion on the astral realms, and the higher realms, a couple months ago. So you don't think the ether has anything to do with the astral?"
What science once called "ether" - a physical substance thought to fill 'empty' space, conceived at a time when it was firmly believed there could be no vacuum - is a discredited idea, a fiction. Where they thought there must be "ether" (for lack of anything else being there), we now know there is vacuum.
This word - from a root meaning "air" - is still used, mostly poetically, like "heaven," or "way up there" or "off in the upper vastnesses," etc. This leads to many uses akin to "the insubstantial realms," and thus (again, it was originally poetic, I suppose) to realms "just past the terrestrial and material" - the lower astral.
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@FiliusBestia said
"I don't have my diary directly with me, but I came to a similar conclusion on the astral realms, and the higher realms, a couple months ago. So you don't think the ether has anything to do with the astral?"
scientific 'ether' no, but magickal ether yes; it is a part of astral realm of existence as a whole, as Jim said -
"realms "just past the terrestrial and material" - the lower astral"
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@Jim Eshelman said
"Assiah also includes borderland areas, generally termed "etheric" - that aspect of the "non-material" which, nonetheless, conforms in essential shape and disposition to the physical universe."
Would this be things like abstractions (i.e. "marriage", "coolness", "President of the United States")? Those are non-material, but conform in shape and disposition to the physical universe.
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@Bryan said
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@Jim Eshelman said
"Assiah also includes borderland areas, generally termed "etheric" - that aspect of the "non-material" which, nonetheless, conforms in essential shape and disposition to the physical universe."Would this be things like abstractions (i.e. "marriage", "coolness", "President of the United States")? Those are non-material, but conform in shape and disposition to the physical universe."
No, those are even more abstract. When they aren't material, they are ideas.
These are far more dense than ideas.
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I dunno. Presidents can sometimes be awfully dense. yuk yuk yuk.