Sources for Selected Columns from 777
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I am curious to know the sources for columns CXLIX, CL, & CLI in *Liber 777 *(The Magical Images of the Decans). Also, rows 11 & 17 of column CLXXXI (Correct Designs of Tarot Trumps) are particularly odd designs for Atu 0 & VI. I'd be interested to know their origin as well.
Thanks in advance for any help.
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@Arsihsis said
"I am curious to know the sources for columns CXLIX, CL, & CLI in *Liber 777 *(The Magical Images of the Decans). Also, rows 11 & 17 of column CLXXXI (Correct Designs of Tarot Trumps) are particularly odd designs for Atu 0 & VI. I'd be interested to know their origin as well."
Golden Dawn papers.
That design for Atu VI is pretty conventional through medieval times; and there are also very old decks showing The Fool as ancient and bearded. But the main idea of this column is that this is the esoteric form of the pack that had never been published ("the designs behind the designs").
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@Jim Eshelman said
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@Arsihsis said
"I am curious to know the sources for columns CXLIX, CL, & CLI in *Liber 777 *(The Magical Images of the Decans). Also, rows 11 & 17 of column CLXXXI (Correct Designs of Tarot Trumps) are particularly odd designs for Atu 0 & VI. I'd be interested to know their origin as well."Golden Dawn papers."
Did they inherit the images from S.R.I.A. or did the images originate with the Golden Dawn? As far as I can discern they bear little resemblance to the Egyptian images of the same.
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@Arsihsis said
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@Jim Eshelman said
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@Arsihsis said
"I am curious to know the sources for columns CXLIX, CL, & CLI in *Liber 777 *(The Magical Images of the Decans). Also, rows 11 & 17 of column CLXXXI (Correct Designs of Tarot Trumps) are particularly odd designs for Atu 0 & VI. I'd be interested to know their origin as well."Golden Dawn papers."
Did they inherit the images from S.R.I.A. or did the images originate with the Golden Dawn? As far as I can discern they bear little resemblance to the Egyptian images of the same."
For the most part, there is no tracking back earlier than "from the Golden Dawn." I haven't seen anyone comprehensively address, in print, the question of their sources, In most cases, the question isn't even asked. The source is "G.D., from the great black hole of unknown eternity preceding it."
PS - Almost nothing in the G.D. came from the S.R.I.A. Their rituals are REALLY different.
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I read somwhere that the G.D. traces back to a Rosicrucian order that was in Luxor Egypt. But I could be wrong.
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@Alias55A said
"I read somwhere that the G.D. traces back to a Rosicrucian order that was in Luxor Egypt. But I could be wrong."
You can probably safely assume that that's a mythological claim.
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@Jim Eshelman said
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@Alias55A said
"I read somwhere that the G.D. traces back to a Rosicrucian order that was in Luxor Egypt. But I could be wrong."You can probably safely assume that that's a mythological claim."
Weren't there a couple established quabalistic/rosicrucian orders in germany befor G.D.?
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@Alias55A said
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@Jim Eshelman said
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@Alias55A said
"I read somwhere that the G.D. traces back to a Rosicrucian order that was in Luxor Egypt. But I could be wrong."You can probably safely assume that that's a mythological claim."
Weren't there a couple established quabalistic/rosicrucian orders in germany befor G.D.?"
Yes, primarily the Gold and Rosy Cross. But don't confuse that with Luxor either!
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lol, I wasn't. Two totally different time periods.
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The only thing I know that came from the S.R.I.A. are the names of the grades ( which came from the earlier German 'Golden Rosicrucians' Order ) and the Admission Badges ( which incidentially account for the "form" of much of the Elemental Rituals ). But the Rituals in the S.R.I.A. were much more simplistic and were basically circling around the floor and stopping in front of the various Officers to listen to various speeches, etc.
The Scepters of the G.D. came from the 4th 'Royal Arch' degree in Europe where the Eastern Officer held a very similiar "Crown-headed scepter" and the Southern Officer held something that looked very similiar to the "Mitre-headed" scepter ). The Western Officer did not hold a sword though, instead an "all seeing eye" was at the top of the corresponding scepter.