The Thelemic Christian
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I thought this might be a fun topic.
The idea is basically this: the possibility of those less rigid manifestations of Christianity evolving, and thereby coming into alignment with Thelemic principles and New Age energies while still maintaining a nominal identity with old-style christian practice—committed use of terms like Christ, Holy Spirit, and so on.
I suspect this is actually already happening in some measure. Compare this text, from a recent Christian Mystic, to notions of divinity in the Book of the Law, or some other of the Holy Books of Thelema:
Crimson gleams of matter, gliding imperceptibly into the gold of spirit, ultimately to become transformed into the incandescence of a Universe that is Person — and through all this there blows, animating it and spreading over it a fragrant balm, a zephyr of Union — and of the Feminine.
The Diaphany of the Divine at the heart of a glowing Universe, as I have experienced it through contact with the Earth — the Divine radiating from the depths of a blazing Matter...
—Pierre Teilhard De Chardin, Jesuit priest, mystic and scientist
I am struck by the use of Fire symbolism, and the newness and sense of regeneration of the world that permeates this text; and I have noted other descriptions of his that suggest a deeper connection to the transformational energies we associate with Heru Ra Ha. It's also worth noting that he lived during the birth of the New Aeon, so he would have had access to these energies and they might be expected to inform his spiritual insight, shaping his mystical experience in accordance with that recent development.
There is a lot more of a speculative sort I can say about this, but I am hoping this is enough to spark an interesting discussion, or not.
Love and Will
I just wanted to append a few short thoughts onto my last post having to to do with the amount of fire symbolism in Christianity.
There is a lot of it, and it is almost all about the future—their future, which is now.
The Holy Spirit's primary attribute is fire! Tongues of fire dancing on the heads of the apostles at the Pentecost! Briahtic consciousness? The ambitions of Thelema of bringing this fire to the average man and woman during this age of the child?
Love and Will
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I thought this might be a fun topic.
The idea is basically this: the possibility of those less rigid manifestations of Christianity evolving, and thereby coming into alignment with Thelemic principles and New Age energies while still maintaining a nominal identity with old-style christian practice—committed use of terms like Christ, Holy Spirit, and so on.
I suspect this is actually already happening in some measure. Compare this text, from a recent Christian Mystic, to notions of divinity in the Book of the Law, or some other of the Holy Books of Thelema:
Crimson gleams of matter, gliding imperceptibly into the gold of spirit, ultimately to become transformed into the incandescence of a Universe that is Person — and through all this there blows, animating it and spreading over it a fragrant balm, a zephyr of Union — and of the Feminine.
The Diaphany of the Divine at the heart of a glowing Universe, as I have experienced it through contact with the Earth — the Divine radiating from the depths of a blazing Matter...
—Pierre Teilhard De Chardin, Jesuit priest, mystic and scientist
I am struck by the use of Fire symbolism, and the newness and sense of regeneration of the world that permeates this text; and I have noted other descriptions of his that suggest a deeper connection to the transformational energies we associate with Heru Ra Ha. It's also worth noting that he lived during the birth of the New Aeon, so he would have had access to these energies and they might be expected to inform his spiritual insight, shaping his mystical experience in accordance with that recent development.
There is a lot more of a speculative sort I can say about this, but I am hoping this is enough to spark an interesting discussion, or not.
Love and Will
It seems to me that a great deal of ingenuity and energy was expended to show how Christ fulfilled the prophecies of the Old Testament, and then introduced a new law. I don't think I am talking out of my butt when I say that Crowley was consciously aware that he was following the same format by delivering a new law that was intended to replace the old Christian paradigm. What is odd is that no one has gone to the trouble of showing how Thelema has fulfilled all the old prophecies of the Christian theology, after a fashion. This would be a very easy, and I would imagine, entertaining thing to do, imho.
Building this bridge might possibly force a reevaluation of ideas central to Christian thought.
Love and Will
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I thought this might be a fun topic.
The idea is basically this: the possibility of those less rigid manifestations of Christianity evolving, and thereby coming into alignment with Thelemic principles and New Age energies while still maintaining a nominal identity with old-style christian practice—committed use of terms like Christ, Holy Spirit, and so on.
I suspect this is actually already happening in some measure. Compare this text, from a recent Christian Mystic, to notions of divinity in the Book of the Law, or some other of the Holy Books of Thelema:
Crimson gleams of matter, gliding imperceptibly into the gold of spirit, ultimately to become transformed into the incandescence of a Universe that is Person — and through all this there blows, animating it and spreading over it a fragrant balm, a zephyr of Union — and of the Feminine.
The Diaphany of the Divine at the heart of a glowing Universe, as I have experienced it through contact with the Earth — the Divine radiating from the depths of a blazing Matter...
—Pierre Teilhard De Chardin, Jesuit priest, mystic and scientist
I am struck by the use of Fire symbolism, and the newness and sense of regeneration of the world that permeates this text; and I have noted other descriptions of his that suggest a deeper connection to the transformational energies we associate with Heru Ra Ha. It's also worth noting that he lived during the birth of the New Aeon, so he would have had access to these energies and they might be expected to inform his spiritual insight, shaping his mystical experience in accordance with that recent development.
There is a lot more of a speculative sort I can say about this, but I am hoping this is enough to spark an interesting discussion, or not.
Love and Will
Well, with Christianity, that happened well after the initial events were alleged to have happened. I think there's still time to engage in that sort of thing, have a council of Nicaea, where everyone agrees to specifics on the dogma of Crowleyanity.
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I thought this might be a fun topic.
The idea is basically this: the possibility of those less rigid manifestations of Christianity evolving, and thereby coming into alignment with Thelemic principles and New Age energies while still maintaining a nominal identity with old-style christian practice—committed use of terms like Christ, Holy Spirit, and so on.
I suspect this is actually already happening in some measure. Compare this text, from a recent Christian Mystic, to notions of divinity in the Book of the Law, or some other of the Holy Books of Thelema:
Crimson gleams of matter, gliding imperceptibly into the gold of spirit, ultimately to become transformed into the incandescence of a Universe that is Person — and through all this there blows, animating it and spreading over it a fragrant balm, a zephyr of Union — and of the Feminine.
The Diaphany of the Divine at the heart of a glowing Universe, as I have experienced it through contact with the Earth — the Divine radiating from the depths of a blazing Matter...
—Pierre Teilhard De Chardin, Jesuit priest, mystic and scientist
I am struck by the use of Fire symbolism, and the newness and sense of regeneration of the world that permeates this text; and I have noted other descriptions of his that suggest a deeper connection to the transformational energies we associate with Heru Ra Ha. It's also worth noting that he lived during the birth of the New Aeon, so he would have had access to these energies and they might be expected to inform his spiritual insight, shaping his mystical experience in accordance with that recent development.
There is a lot more of a speculative sort I can say about this, but I am hoping this is enough to spark an interesting discussion, or not.
Love and Will
@AvshalomBinyamin said
"Well, with Christianity, that happened well after the initial events were alleged to have happened. I think there's still time to engage in that sort of thing, have a council of Nicaea, where everyone agrees to specifics on the dogma of Crowleyanity. "
Hard to say if this would be a good idea in the long run. In the sort run though, it makes me feel all giggly. Someone should start a website called Christians for Crowley, and stock with lots reinterpretations of beloved Biblical passages. The froth and outrage would be worth the price of admission.
There is no need to point out that this gesture would probably be childish, self-serving, unhelpful, and cruel. What would the mercurial Jesus do? Mercury is the prankster after all.
Love and Will
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I thought this might be a fun topic.
The idea is basically this: the possibility of those less rigid manifestations of Christianity evolving, and thereby coming into alignment with Thelemic principles and New Age energies while still maintaining a nominal identity with old-style christian practice—committed use of terms like Christ, Holy Spirit, and so on.
I suspect this is actually already happening in some measure. Compare this text, from a recent Christian Mystic, to notions of divinity in the Book of the Law, or some other of the Holy Books of Thelema:
Crimson gleams of matter, gliding imperceptibly into the gold of spirit, ultimately to become transformed into the incandescence of a Universe that is Person — and through all this there blows, animating it and spreading over it a fragrant balm, a zephyr of Union — and of the Feminine.
The Diaphany of the Divine at the heart of a glowing Universe, as I have experienced it through contact with the Earth — the Divine radiating from the depths of a blazing Matter...
—Pierre Teilhard De Chardin, Jesuit priest, mystic and scientist
I am struck by the use of Fire symbolism, and the newness and sense of regeneration of the world that permeates this text; and I have noted other descriptions of his that suggest a deeper connection to the transformational energies we associate with Heru Ra Ha. It's also worth noting that he lived during the birth of the New Aeon, so he would have had access to these energies and they might be expected to inform his spiritual insight, shaping his mystical experience in accordance with that recent development.
There is a lot more of a speculative sort I can say about this, but I am hoping this is enough to spark an interesting discussion, or not.
Love and Will
@RobertAllen said
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Hard to say if this would be a good idea in the long run. In the sort run though, it makes me feel all giggly. Someone should start a website called Christians for Crowley, and stock with lots reinterpretations of beloved Biblical passages. The froth and outrage would be worth the price of admission.There is no need to point out that this gesture would probably be childish, self-serving, unhelpful, and cruel. What would the mercurial Jesus do? Mercury is the prankster after all.
Love and Will"
Now that sounds fun!
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I thought this might be a fun topic.
The idea is basically this: the possibility of those less rigid manifestations of Christianity evolving, and thereby coming into alignment with Thelemic principles and New Age energies while still maintaining a nominal identity with old-style christian practice—committed use of terms like Christ, Holy Spirit, and so on.
I suspect this is actually already happening in some measure. Compare this text, from a recent Christian Mystic, to notions of divinity in the Book of the Law, or some other of the Holy Books of Thelema:
Crimson gleams of matter, gliding imperceptibly into the gold of spirit, ultimately to become transformed into the incandescence of a Universe that is Person — and through all this there blows, animating it and spreading over it a fragrant balm, a zephyr of Union — and of the Feminine.
The Diaphany of the Divine at the heart of a glowing Universe, as I have experienced it through contact with the Earth — the Divine radiating from the depths of a blazing Matter...
—Pierre Teilhard De Chardin, Jesuit priest, mystic and scientist
I am struck by the use of Fire symbolism, and the newness and sense of regeneration of the world that permeates this text; and I have noted other descriptions of his that suggest a deeper connection to the transformational energies we associate with Heru Ra Ha. It's also worth noting that he lived during the birth of the New Aeon, so he would have had access to these energies and they might be expected to inform his spiritual insight, shaping his mystical experience in accordance with that recent development.
There is a lot more of a speculative sort I can say about this, but I am hoping this is enough to spark an interesting discussion, or not.
Love and Will
Unless I've read too casually, I think this thread (and the related one floating around here) has missed the Qabalistic basis of the Christ = Logos = Mercury persepctive:
Mercury is the letter Beth which, spelled as BYTh, is 412.
412, among other things, is the "spelling in full" (adding the values of the full names of the letters) of Yeheshua (Jesus): Yod 20 + Heh 10 + Shin 360 + Vav 12 + Heh 10 = 412.
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I thought this might be a fun topic.
The idea is basically this: the possibility of those less rigid manifestations of Christianity evolving, and thereby coming into alignment with Thelemic principles and New Age energies while still maintaining a nominal identity with old-style christian practice—committed use of terms like Christ, Holy Spirit, and so on.
I suspect this is actually already happening in some measure. Compare this text, from a recent Christian Mystic, to notions of divinity in the Book of the Law, or some other of the Holy Books of Thelema:
Crimson gleams of matter, gliding imperceptibly into the gold of spirit, ultimately to become transformed into the incandescence of a Universe that is Person — and through all this there blows, animating it and spreading over it a fragrant balm, a zephyr of Union — and of the Feminine.
The Diaphany of the Divine at the heart of a glowing Universe, as I have experienced it through contact with the Earth — the Divine radiating from the depths of a blazing Matter...
—Pierre Teilhard De Chardin, Jesuit priest, mystic and scientist
I am struck by the use of Fire symbolism, and the newness and sense of regeneration of the world that permeates this text; and I have noted other descriptions of his that suggest a deeper connection to the transformational energies we associate with Heru Ra Ha. It's also worth noting that he lived during the birth of the New Aeon, so he would have had access to these energies and they might be expected to inform his spiritual insight, shaping his mystical experience in accordance with that recent development.
There is a lot more of a speculative sort I can say about this, but I am hoping this is enough to spark an interesting discussion, or not.
Love and Will
I think we missed that one.
How about an additional one? The other Hebrew/Aramaic form of Jesus was Yeshua (same as Joshua).
Yeshua', yod-shin-vav-ayin, 10+300+6+70, 386
Also 386: lashon, lamed-shin-vav-nun, 30+300+6+50 - lashon means language/tongue - pretty fitting for Mercury/Logos!
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I thought this might be a fun topic.
The idea is basically this: the possibility of those less rigid manifestations of Christianity evolving, and thereby coming into alignment with Thelemic principles and New Age energies while still maintaining a nominal identity with old-style christian practice—committed use of terms like Christ, Holy Spirit, and so on.
I suspect this is actually already happening in some measure. Compare this text, from a recent Christian Mystic, to notions of divinity in the Book of the Law, or some other of the Holy Books of Thelema:
Crimson gleams of matter, gliding imperceptibly into the gold of spirit, ultimately to become transformed into the incandescence of a Universe that is Person — and through all this there blows, animating it and spreading over it a fragrant balm, a zephyr of Union — and of the Feminine.
The Diaphany of the Divine at the heart of a glowing Universe, as I have experienced it through contact with the Earth — the Divine radiating from the depths of a blazing Matter...
—Pierre Teilhard De Chardin, Jesuit priest, mystic and scientist
I am struck by the use of Fire symbolism, and the newness and sense of regeneration of the world that permeates this text; and I have noted other descriptions of his that suggest a deeper connection to the transformational energies we associate with Heru Ra Ha. It's also worth noting that he lived during the birth of the New Aeon, so he would have had access to these energies and they might be expected to inform his spiritual insight, shaping his mystical experience in accordance with that recent development.
There is a lot more of a speculative sort I can say about this, but I am hoping this is enough to spark an interesting discussion, or not.
Love and Will
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I thought this might be a fun topic.
The idea is basically this: the possibility of those less rigid manifestations of Christianity evolving, and thereby coming into alignment with Thelemic principles and New Age energies while still maintaining a nominal identity with old-style christian practice—committed use of terms like Christ, Holy Spirit, and so on.
I suspect this is actually already happening in some measure. Compare this text, from a recent Christian Mystic, to notions of divinity in the Book of the Law, or some other of the Holy Books of Thelema:
Crimson gleams of matter, gliding imperceptibly into the gold of spirit, ultimately to become transformed into the incandescence of a Universe that is Person — and through all this there blows, animating it and spreading over it a fragrant balm, a zephyr of Union — and of the Feminine.
The Diaphany of the Divine at the heart of a glowing Universe, as I have experienced it through contact with the Earth — the Divine radiating from the depths of a blazing Matter...
—Pierre Teilhard De Chardin, Jesuit priest, mystic and scientist
I am struck by the use of Fire symbolism, and the newness and sense of regeneration of the world that permeates this text; and I have noted other descriptions of his that suggest a deeper connection to the transformational energies we associate with Heru Ra Ha. It's also worth noting that he lived during the birth of the New Aeon, so he would have had access to these energies and they might be expected to inform his spiritual insight, shaping his mystical experience in accordance with that recent development.
There is a lot more of a speculative sort I can say about this, but I am hoping this is enough to spark an interesting discussion, or not.
Love and Will
Isn't Binah the feminine counterpart to Chokmah?
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I thought this might be a fun topic.
The idea is basically this: the possibility of those less rigid manifestations of Christianity evolving, and thereby coming into alignment with Thelemic principles and New Age energies while still maintaining a nominal identity with old-style christian practice—committed use of terms like Christ, Holy Spirit, and so on.
I suspect this is actually already happening in some measure. Compare this text, from a recent Christian Mystic, to notions of divinity in the Book of the Law, or some other of the Holy Books of Thelema:
Crimson gleams of matter, gliding imperceptibly into the gold of spirit, ultimately to become transformed into the incandescence of a Universe that is Person — and through all this there blows, animating it and spreading over it a fragrant balm, a zephyr of Union — and of the Feminine.
The Diaphany of the Divine at the heart of a glowing Universe, as I have experienced it through contact with the Earth — the Divine radiating from the depths of a blazing Matter...
—Pierre Teilhard De Chardin, Jesuit priest, mystic and scientist
I am struck by the use of Fire symbolism, and the newness and sense of regeneration of the world that permeates this text; and I have noted other descriptions of his that suggest a deeper connection to the transformational energies we associate with Heru Ra Ha. It's also worth noting that he lived during the birth of the New Aeon, so he would have had access to these energies and they might be expected to inform his spiritual insight, shaping his mystical experience in accordance with that recent development.
There is a lot more of a speculative sort I can say about this, but I am hoping this is enough to spark an interesting discussion, or not.
Love and Will
@Alrah said
"Thanks Anistara. Gemini (and thus Mercury) is such a masculine and phallic sign and planet then it's hard to work with the feminine side of it without that leading to any degredation of it's essential qualities. By working with Mercury and the twin aspects of the Ma'at I think we can raise the bar a bit and bring the hidden female twin more into focus."
One interpretation of the the spear thrust into the side of Christ as he hung on the cross is that it is a femininization of the Christ; it also indicates the moment of his death—his obtaining a womb or vagina, which is described as issuing blood and water. I even think there is a myth where this fluid was collected into a cup/grail! The correspondence with the symbolism of the crossing of the abyss and the master of the temple is striking—the giving of every drop of blood; the return to the great mother; death...
Love and Will
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I thought this might be a fun topic.
The idea is basically this: the possibility of those less rigid manifestations of Christianity evolving, and thereby coming into alignment with Thelemic principles and New Age energies while still maintaining a nominal identity with old-style christian practice—committed use of terms like Christ, Holy Spirit, and so on.
I suspect this is actually already happening in some measure. Compare this text, from a recent Christian Mystic, to notions of divinity in the Book of the Law, or some other of the Holy Books of Thelema:
Crimson gleams of matter, gliding imperceptibly into the gold of spirit, ultimately to become transformed into the incandescence of a Universe that is Person — and through all this there blows, animating it and spreading over it a fragrant balm, a zephyr of Union — and of the Feminine.
The Diaphany of the Divine at the heart of a glowing Universe, as I have experienced it through contact with the Earth — the Divine radiating from the depths of a blazing Matter...
—Pierre Teilhard De Chardin, Jesuit priest, mystic and scientist
I am struck by the use of Fire symbolism, and the newness and sense of regeneration of the world that permeates this text; and I have noted other descriptions of his that suggest a deeper connection to the transformational energies we associate with Heru Ra Ha. It's also worth noting that he lived during the birth of the New Aeon, so he would have had access to these energies and they might be expected to inform his spiritual insight, shaping his mystical experience in accordance with that recent development.
There is a lot more of a speculative sort I can say about this, but I am hoping this is enough to spark an interesting discussion, or not.
Love and Will
@Alrah said
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@AvshalomBinyamin said
"Isn't Binah the feminine counterpart to Chokmah?"Don't the sephiroth exist in unity above the abyss?"
No idea. I was talking (as usual) from a below the abyss POV...
Robert, I believe Crowley somewhere refers to the spear (wand) and grail (cup) as the "Greater Mystery", in contrast to the "Lesser Mystery" of John's severed head (sword) brought in on a platter (disc)
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I thought this might be a fun topic.
The idea is basically this: the possibility of those less rigid manifestations of Christianity evolving, and thereby coming into alignment with Thelemic principles and New Age energies while still maintaining a nominal identity with old-style christian practice—committed use of terms like Christ, Holy Spirit, and so on.
I suspect this is actually already happening in some measure. Compare this text, from a recent Christian Mystic, to notions of divinity in the Book of the Law, or some other of the Holy Books of Thelema:
Crimson gleams of matter, gliding imperceptibly into the gold of spirit, ultimately to become transformed into the incandescence of a Universe that is Person — and through all this there blows, animating it and spreading over it a fragrant balm, a zephyr of Union — and of the Feminine.
The Diaphany of the Divine at the heart of a glowing Universe, as I have experienced it through contact with the Earth — the Divine radiating from the depths of a blazing Matter...
—Pierre Teilhard De Chardin, Jesuit priest, mystic and scientist
I am struck by the use of Fire symbolism, and the newness and sense of regeneration of the world that permeates this text; and I have noted other descriptions of his that suggest a deeper connection to the transformational energies we associate with Heru Ra Ha. It's also worth noting that he lived during the birth of the New Aeon, so he would have had access to these energies and they might be expected to inform his spiritual insight, shaping his mystical experience in accordance with that recent development.
There is a lot more of a speculative sort I can say about this, but I am hoping this is enough to spark an interesting discussion, or not.
Love and Will
Lots of Mary's were about the cross. These were Mary Jesus' mother, Mary Magdalene, and Mary—the wife of Clopas. Three, three Mary's! Mary of course means bitter, and is related to mar, the sea. In other words, Binah!
And then he dies and it stuffed into a tomb, another womb!
"...it takes three days for the planet Mercury to become visible after separating from the orb of the sun."
—From a quote from Crowley's Confessions, from an earlier post by AB!
And after three days, pop goes the weasel!
EDIT: last part, after I found the reference to the planet Mercury.
Love and Will
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I thought this might be a fun topic.
The idea is basically this: the possibility of those less rigid manifestations of Christianity evolving, and thereby coming into alignment with Thelemic principles and New Age energies while still maintaining a nominal identity with old-style christian practice—committed use of terms like Christ, Holy Spirit, and so on.
I suspect this is actually already happening in some measure. Compare this text, from a recent Christian Mystic, to notions of divinity in the Book of the Law, or some other of the Holy Books of Thelema:
Crimson gleams of matter, gliding imperceptibly into the gold of spirit, ultimately to become transformed into the incandescence of a Universe that is Person — and through all this there blows, animating it and spreading over it a fragrant balm, a zephyr of Union — and of the Feminine.
The Diaphany of the Divine at the heart of a glowing Universe, as I have experienced it through contact with the Earth — the Divine radiating from the depths of a blazing Matter...
—Pierre Teilhard De Chardin, Jesuit priest, mystic and scientist
I am struck by the use of Fire symbolism, and the newness and sense of regeneration of the world that permeates this text; and I have noted other descriptions of his that suggest a deeper connection to the transformational energies we associate with Heru Ra Ha. It's also worth noting that he lived during the birth of the New Aeon, so he would have had access to these energies and they might be expected to inform his spiritual insight, shaping his mystical experience in accordance with that recent development.
There is a lot more of a speculative sort I can say about this, but I am hoping this is enough to spark an interesting discussion, or not.
Love and Will
@AvshalomBinyamin said
"Robert, I believe Crowley somewhere refers to the spear (wand) and grail (cup) as the "Greater Mystery", in contrast to the "Lesser Mystery" of John's severed head (sword) brought in on a platter (disc)"
The way you tied in the Elements is really cool
There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt.