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Thelema and...Hrumachis?

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    The Ill-Made Knight
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    93!
    Wondering about Hrumachis, as mentioned in Liber AL.
    Is the next Aeon to be of Hrumachis, or of Ma'at?
    Can this be known? Should we even care, as Thelemites?
    Opinion?
    93/93

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      93!
      Wondering about Hrumachis, as mentioned in Liber AL.
      Is the next Aeon to be of Hrumachis, or of Ma'at?
      Can this be known? Should we even care, as Thelemites?
      Opinion?
      93/93

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      Ioaness
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      @The Ill-Made Knigh said

      "93!
      Wondering about Hrumachis, as mentioned in Liber AL.
      Is the next Aeon to be of Hrumachis, or of Ma'at?
      Can this be known? Should we even care, as Thelemites?
      Opinion?
      93/93"

      The teachings of Horus have yet to even compare with the influence of those of Osiris who reigned the last generation. Until the teachings of Thelema become at least as popular as those of Christianity I don't think you have to worry about it. And I don't think that any of us will most likely see that in this lifetime.

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        93!
        Wondering about Hrumachis, as mentioned in Liber AL.
        Is the next Aeon to be of Hrumachis, or of Ma'at?
        Can this be known? Should we even care, as Thelemites?
        Opinion?
        93/93

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        Takamba
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        Hrumachis is not a Lord of any Aeon, he is an officer initiating. I refer you to this thread found by searching the word "Hrumachis" with the forum's search feature.

        www.heruraha.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6285&p=38368&hilit=Hrumachis#p38368

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          93!
          Wondering about Hrumachis, as mentioned in Liber AL.
          Is the next Aeon to be of Hrumachis, or of Ma'at?
          Can this be known? Should we even care, as Thelemites?
          Opinion?
          93/93

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          Heru-pa-kraath
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          @Takamba said

          "Hrumachis is not a Lord of any Aeon, he is an officer initiating. I refer you to this thread found by searching the word "Hrumachis" with the forum's search feature.

          www.heruraha.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6285&p=38368&hilit=Hrumachis#p38368"

          I find it interesting how some theories about the meaning of verses in the Book of the Law rely on elements of Egyptian myth, while others seem to be made up, and even contradict or ignore established myth. in verse III:72, Ra-Hoor-Khut establishes that he is the lord of the double wand of power, or the double-wanded one. Assuming Ra-Hoor-khut is the same god depicted on the Stele of Revealing, commonly known as Ra-horakhty, he represents the both the rising and setting sun, as determined by the meaning of his name, Ra-Horus of the horizon, or Horus of the two horizons, hence the need for a double wand of power.

          Hrumachis appears to be a variation of Harmachis, the hellenized spelling of Hor-em-akhet, which means Horus in the horizon; based on established myth, Harmachis and Ra-Hoor-Khut are the same god. According to Gerald Massey, Harmachis represents the setting sun and the autumnal equinox; based on the orientation of the Sphinx at Giza, which is named Hor-em-akhet on the Dream Stela, and positioned in the west, Harmachis is indeed symbolic of the setting sun. In order for Harmachis to rise, he must become Ra-Harmachis, god of the vernal equinox, completing the cycle in which the elder Horus abdicates his thrown to his son, Horus the child, who appears as the rising sun in the east, renewing the endless solar cycle.

          Massey states that Ra-Harmachis was linked to double weaponry, such as the double-axe, which is quite similar to the concept of the double wand; based on the evidence, there is every reason to believe Ra-Harmachis is the double-wanded one who is to arise at the Fall of the Great Equinox, an expression that denotes the arrival of the vernal equinox. My conclusion is the fall of the Great Equinox marks the arrival of the Child of the Prophet predicted in the Book of the Law, an event meant to symbolize the passing of the solar force from the father to the son.

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            93!
            Wondering about Hrumachis, as mentioned in Liber AL.
            Is the next Aeon to be of Hrumachis, or of Ma'at?
            Can this be known? Should we even care, as Thelemites?
            Opinion?
            93/93

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            @Heru-pa-kraath said

            "Assuming Ra-Hoor-khut is the same god depicted on the Stele of Revealing, commonly known as Ra-horakhty, he represents the both the rising and setting sun, as determined by the meaning of his name, Ra-Horus of the horizon, or Horus of the two horizons, hence the need for a double wand of power. "

            That's an older, mistaken translation. The phrase "Horus (or Lord) of the two horizons" is how Egyptologists used to think the double-presence of the hieroglyph for "horizon" was translated. Later it was discovered that this doubling was possessive - it wasn't dual at all - and the correct translation is "Horus (or Lord) of the Horizon."

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              93!
              Wondering about Hrumachis, as mentioned in Liber AL.
              Is the next Aeon to be of Hrumachis, or of Ma'at?
              Can this be known? Should we even care, as Thelemites?
              Opinion?
              93/93

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              The Ill-Made Knight
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              93!
              Many thanks for the replies.
              My first time ever on a forum - I appreciate the heads-up, Takamba.
              will endeavor to avoid my error of new threads for existing topics.
              93/93

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                93!
                Wondering about Hrumachis, as mentioned in Liber AL.
                Is the next Aeon to be of Hrumachis, or of Ma'at?
                Can this be known? Should we even care, as Thelemites?
                Opinion?
                93/93

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                Takamba
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                @The Ill-Made Knigh said

                "93!
                Many thanks for the replies.
                My first time ever on a forum - I appreciate the heads-up, Takamba.
                will endeavor to avoid my error of new threads for existing topics.
                93/93"

                No problem. My pleasure.

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