HGA name (again)
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FWIW...
Early in my magical career, while invoking a certain Enochian angel, it declared that it was my HGA. (I'll jump ahead and say that its name is not the name later given to me by the HGA in more intimate times.) I was quite unwilling to accept this, but the E. angel gave me unequivocal proof - unequivocal! (too long a story).
The clarifying perspective (already there at the time, but made clearer later) was that the HGA can take whatever form is useful to communicate. Since I had successfully connected to the Yetziratic manifestation of this characterologically suitable angel, THE Angel was able to "drop in" and use it
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Thanks for the input...
So, by saying this you imply that the Enochian is a form of the HGA??? Or that the HGA "pretended" to be the Enochian???
Apologies if I misunderstand what you say
EDIT: Cancel that I get what you mean now...I think.
So your implying because you where Connected to the Enochians Yetzirac form, your HGA assumed his form?
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In younger days, my angel once took the form of a cosmic Johnny Cash during an intense dream. That's not the same as saying Johnny Cash is my HGA, or that my angel's name is Johnny Cash.
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Av' said it eloquently, I'll rephrase for clarity:
I'm saying that the Angel is able to drop into any inner experience whatsoever and communicate; and by "any inner experience whatsoever," I also mean what we might call "outer experience." (Yes, the HGA can communicate through license plates in front of you, which isn't the same as saying that the HGA's name is 6J2781.)
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@Jim Eshelman said
"FWIW...
Early in my magical career, while invoking a certain Enochian angel, it declared that it was my HGA. (I'll jump ahead and say that its name is not the name later given to me by the HGA in more intimate times.) I was quite unwilling to accept this, but the E. angel gave me unequivocal proof - unequivocal! (too long a story).
The clarifying perspective (already there at the time, but made clearer later) was that the HGA can take whatever form is useful to communicate. Since I had successfully connected to the Yetziratic manifestation of this characterologically suitable angel, THE Angel was able to "drop in" and use it"
This is very similar to my own feeling on the matter, I have a name that I received, almost by accident, and that name is actually the name of a known angel/demon, (albeit one that was unknown to me before I heard it in meditation) so I don't feel that it is the final word in my HGA experience, but is more in the way of something I can use right now, until such time as I am able to make a clearer connection, (i.e. learn to listen better with less interference from my mind).
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@jackal said
"The only name I've recieved so far, was that of an Enochian Angel, whose name I didn't know before hand...
So would a self designed Meditation help learn the name of my HGA??? One person suggested its possible that the name I recieved COULD be his name but unlikely...
This specific friend, attempted to meditate on it for me (At time I wasn't in a state to meditate) and only recieved the first letter of the name I got...He also didn't know the original name I received... So I'm wondering, was it Garbled?
Apologies if such sounds stupid or worse,"RP" Thats all I got lol I don't study enochian and don't understand there nature. So my ignorance on the subject is kinda irritating.I also am not touching said system for this current time
I will admit that despite certain....Incidents that should put me of the system completely My monkey mind, Undisciplined took about three months forcing the name of enochians into my head, Final result was me breaking my ankles after jumping out a window. every time I recovered a Found a new name and another cycle started . I have a tendency to feel desire to study the system...
shrug"
Since then learnt a lot... the fact that the Grigori angels aren't actually Enochian angels from the traditional point of view...
So wondering what should I do if the name recieved was Grigori? Ignore it?
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@jackal said
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@jackal said
"The only name I've recieved so far, was that of an Enochian Angel, whose name I didn't know before hand...So would a self designed Meditation help learn the name of my HGA??? One person suggested its possible that the name I recieved COULD be his name but unlikely...
This specific friend, attempted to meditate on it for me (At time I wasn't in a state to meditate) and only recieved the first letter of the name I got...He also didn't know the original name I received... So I'm wondering, was it Garbled?
Apologies if such sounds stupid or worse,"RP" Thats all I got lol I don't study enochian and don't understand there nature. So my ignorance on the subject is kinda irritating.I also am not touching said system for this current time
I will admit that despite certain....Incidents that should put me of the system completely My monkey mind, Undisciplined took about three months forcing the name of enochians into my head, Final result was me breaking my ankles after jumping out a window. every time I recovered a Found a new name and another cycle started . I have a tendency to feel desire to study the system...
shrug"
Since then learnt a lot... the fact that the Grigori angels aren't actually Enochian angels from the traditional point of view...
So wondering what should I do if the name recieved was Grigori? Ignore it?"
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Just use whatever you have to hand, and don't worry too much about it, Just don't let your results obsess you. (See Liber O section one for more info).
Remember that a scientific attitude is the best; experiment with whatever materials you have to hand and don't let your personal feelings get in the way.
In my own experience, and I think that I mentioned this before, I received a name last summer that I have since been using as a stand-in for that of my Angel (i,e. the closest thing to the genuine name that I am able to understand at this time).
Interestingly enough the name I was given is also that of one of the Grigori. I find that through working with it I have become increasingly sympathetic to these "Fallen Angels", quite what this means I don't know, but its certainly an interesting co-incidence.
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93,
Don't mean to jump this thread but I was wondering: Is it possible that the "HGA" is communicating with one all the time?
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